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Budget (including currency): 2500-4000$USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Overwatch 2 competitive gaming, intensive use of Adobe Premiere, several google chrome tabs open at all times

Other details Sustainability is key. She wants something uber reliable that is less likely to break down with her sustained work load 

 

        My best friend is looking for a new laptop. Her old Lenovo Legion 7 16" 165Hz Gaming Laptop AMD Ryzen 7-5800H 32GB RAM 2TB SSD RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6 TGP 140W Storm Grey" broke down after about 3 years of heavy use but tbh it always had issues she just muscled through it. The problem is she is not willing to change the way she uses her laptop. She will have a large project open on Adobe Premiere, something on photoshop open, Magic The Gathering Arena open, Overwatch 2 open and have google open with about 15-20 tabs with 1 video running on one of the tabs. This makes her laptop run HOT. She ran into many issues of programs just closing. FPS drops. The laptop turning itself off and finally to now where it's just dead dead. 

        I'm a PC man myself I've never really looked into laptop. I know what good specs would look like but I have no idea how to shop reliably. Was hoping for some suggestions, regardless of price, of a reliable laptop with longevity. 

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2 hours ago, Spaghettius said:

broke down after about 3 years of heavy use
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The laptop turning itself off and finally to now where it's just dead dead. 

In those 3 years of heavy use, has she cleaned the fans & vents once?
I clean my (Legion 5 Pro 16ACH6) twice every year, typically in the spring (before summer comes) and autumn (before I turn on the heating).

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Maybe she got a lemon and I got lucky, sample size of 1 isn't representative and all that, but still.

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This is a larger SSD, which I installed sometime after I got the laptop, so it has been turned on for close to two years.
I've disabled sleep and hibernation, it is rarely idle, the mux switch set to dGPU and OC profile enabled in BIOS from day one, and it never overheats to the point of throttling, let alone shutting down.
Sure the CPU runs hot, 90-95c when under heavy load, but still way below Tjmax, at worst it can't boost much but never goes into throttling.
GPU rarely goes above 75c.

The only thing that failed on the laptop was the left fan, it still worked but made annoying noises so I replaced it.


Unless she goes for some ultra chonker, like 18"... I doubt she is going to find anything with significantly better cooling than a Legion 7 (or 5 Pro) in 16" laptops.
Having it on a stand with some decent clearance can help a little, if she isn't using a stand I suggest she gets one (it doesn't need to have fans, it just needs good airflow).

Anyhow, her options are: 
- Go even bigger (at which point she might consider a desktop).
- Change how she uses it daily.
- Getting a laptop with great specs and then downclocking it (thus sacrificing performance). Just getting a lower-spec laptop typically won't help, as the cooling solutions in those are usually worse.

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This is quite literally a skill issue.  It's incredibly easy to piss away thousands of dollars of the performance that you already paid for  by just opening multiple programs. I don't see how spending more money on a laptop so it can fry itself while losing 50%+ of it's performance during it's lifetime makes any sense. 
 
Bottom line is, she can change how she uses her computer (this is incredibly easy and free and she loses nothing) to use a cheaper (even medium priced!) laptop, or pay thousands of dollars more to get the same performance with her current habits

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why not just go with one of those sff pcs and hook a portable monitor to it?

 

performance will suck less cause cpus and gpus arent watered down like they are on laptops + better cooling and theres also the benifit of being able to upgrade the thing, besides the batteries are basically useless anyways with that pathetic 100wh

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