Deciding how/if to upgrade 3900X to possibly 5800/5700X3D

[Jaygo]

Hey ya'll I was looking at new processors like the 9800X3D the other day and thought it was funny that the base clock was higher than my boost clock on my CPU I have right now. Anyways I started thinking about upgrading my 3900x to something closer to the end of life for AM4 like the 5800/5700X3D. I think if I did upgrade I might as well spend the extra 100$ to max out the board.
Eventually I'll do a new build but that'd be closer to the end of AM5 probably with a new gen from Nvidia. I'm fine squeaking out 60fps with the best visuals possible with what I have. 

So my main concern is whether the upgrade would even change performance in my case. Obviously the 5800X3D is miles ahead of the 3900x in performance but I don't know if being GPU bottlenecked already on AAA titles would be helped with a faster processor. I'm running a 2080ti at 4k on the Oblivion Remaster with DLSS and getting 50/60fps but during fights there are frame drops to the point I had to lower down to 1440p. Same thing with Wukong and Smite 2 is pretty painful to run but it's still in beta or whatever. So my PC has a hard time running UE5. Maybe a VRAM issue or just hardware being too old. I don't bother OCing the processor but I've got a little bump on afterburner.

Just wondering what fps gain I'd realistically get ideally playing at 4k and not dropping to 1440p from upgrading. Also any other tips for getting more juice out of my pc I can try. I've got the most recent BIOS since the old ones had tons of issues. Thank ya'll for your time!

Country: USA

 

I run a lot of different games. Simple stuff like MC, Smite, Valorant, Farming Sim, rarely Civ or Anno, also AAA titles like Wukong, Cyberpunk & the Oblivion Remaster. I do tend to host a server off my PC for games that need it for multiplayer. Normally MC but other games like Pal World and I think Valheim needed the same thing. But I think I can still do that going down to 8 cores from the 12 I have rn.

 

My PC specs are on my profile but the rundown is 3900x, 2080ti, 32 gigs ddr4 @ 3600, and Crosshair VIII Hero (x570) running 4K.

 

[strange13930]

12 minutes ago, Jaygo said:

Hey ya'll I was looking at new processors like the 9800X3D the other day and thought it was funny that the base clock was higher than my boost clock on my CPU I have right now. Anyways I started thinking about upgrading my 3900x to something closer to the end of life for AM4 like the 5800/5700X3D. I think if I did upgrade I might as well spend the extra 100$ to max out the board.
Eventually I'll do a new build but that'd be closer to the end of AM5 probably with a new gen from Nvidia. I'm fine squeaking out 60fps with the best visuals possible with what I have. 

So my main concern is whether the upgrade would even change performance in my case. Obviously the 5800X3D is miles ahead of the 3900x in performance but I don't know if being GPU bottlenecked already on AAA titles would be helped with a faster processor. I'm running a 2080ti at 4k on the Oblivion Remaster with DLSS and getting 50/60fps but during fights there are frame drops to the point I had to lower down to 1440p. Same thing with Wukong and Smite 2 is pretty painful to run but it's still in beta or whatever. So my PC has a hard time running UE5. Maybe a VRAM issue or just hardware being too old. I don't bother OCing the processor but I've got a little bump on afterburner.

Just wondering what fps gain I'd realistically get ideally playing at 4k and not dropping to 1440p from upgrading. Also any other tips for getting more juice out of my pc I can try. I've got the most recent BIOS since the old ones had tons of issues. Thank ya'll for your time!

Country: USA

 

I run a lot of different games. Simple stuff like MC, Smite, Valorant, Farming Sim, rarely Civ or Anno, also AAA titles like Wukong, Cyberpunk & the Oblivion Remaster. I do tend to host a server off my PC for games that need it for multiplayer. Normally MC but other games like Pal World and I think Valheim needed the same thing. But I think I can still do that going down to 8 cores from the 12 I have rn.

 

My PC specs are on my profile but the rundown is 3900x, 2080ti, 32 gigs ddr4 @ 3600, and Crosshair VIII Hero (x570) running 4K.

 

a cpu upgrade would boost your fps in cpu intensive games, but at 1440p and 4k your gpu is the main bottleneck.

[PDifolco]

Really at 4k on an UE game it shouldn't change much, maybe better 1% lows

And I'd advise against spending money on an AM4 board upgrade, it'll be wasted 

If you have $500 upgrade to AM5

[Eigenvektor]

22 minutes ago, Jaygo said:

Just wondering what fps gain I'd realistically get ideally playing at 4k and not dropping to 1440p from upgrading.

Unless you're CPU limited, virtually none. Use Intel PresentMon or MSI Afterburner to monitor GPU usage in games. If it's >90%, then don't expect a CPU upgrade to give you any additional performance.

[GuiltySpark_]

1 hour ago, Jaygo said:

3900x

 

1 hour ago, Jaygo said:

Oblivion Remaster

 

1 hour ago, Jaygo said:

So my PC has a hard time running UE5

Everyone's does. Zen2 is going to be slaughtered by modern UE5 titles, that I can assure you. 

 

I'd want to be off that chip ASAP but you also desperately need a GPU upgrade for 4K. 

[Doobeedoo]

If you can slot X3D chip for certain games that get good boost nice. Otherwise I's get AM5.

[Conza]

5700X3D and call it a day.

HUB did an investigation recently and found that, even at 4K, you’re not necessarily completely GPU limited, so the CPU still matters.