Will NVIDIA release a super variant for the 5000 series?

[Emillio]

Will NVIDIA release a super variant for the 5000 series?

[GuiltySpark_]

Proper answer: We have no idea. We don't work for Nvidia and if we did, wouldn't be leaking that information here.

 

 

However, if you're paying attention to the space, you know the rumors are starting already. 

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-rtx-5080-super-rumored-to-feature-24gb-memory-rtx-5070-super-with-18gb-config

 

[DreamCat04]

Just now, Emillio said:

Will NVIDIA release a super variant for the 5000 series?

I guess it remains to be seen... But judging by the huge gap between the 5090 and 5080, both CUDA core wise and VRAM wise, there could be a potential 5080 Super / 5080 Ti. For 40 series, the super variants were just to bridge the gaps and make them more affordable from what I remember (could be wrong). I wish they'd just put a much more sensible amount of VRAM and CUDA cores in each GPU, but we don't call NVidia "NGreedia" for no reason...

[ewitte]

4 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Proper answer: We have no idea. We don't work for Nvidia and if we did, wouldn't be leaking that information here.

 

Nvidia doesn't know 9/10 until something actually launches, they tend to flipflop.  There are rumors of 5070/5080 with 3GB chips (18GB/24GB).  No information on if there are other changes along with that. TBH they needed those cards released with those memory specs to begin with.

[Agall]

5 minutes ago, Emillio said:

Will NVIDIA release a super variant for the 5000 series?

Its almost certain Nvidia releases a series of Geforce cards with the 3GB GDDR7 chips. Whether that's an RTX 6000 thing or an RTX 5000 Super thing, we don't know. Speculating that Nvidia will do a slightly higher bin with 3GB chips and call it RTX 5000 Super' isn't far fetched.

[porina]

Nothing is official until it is. A mid generation refresh is not unusual, and they may or may not be called Super. For example, in the past they might have released a Ti of a model where there wasn't one. If they will exist or not depends on the market as a whole, and if there is any competitive pressure. 

 

For 5080 and below, there is some chance they might drop in 3GB chips replacing the 2GB ones, giving a +50% increase in VRAM. While there is a performance gap between 5080 and 5090, it doesn't feel like one that can be filled easily, so I feel it unlikely to happen.

 

Pure guessing on my part:

5060 8GB - official price reduction and continues to be sold

5060 Super 12GB - takes over where 5060 launched at

5060 Ti 8GB silently gets retired

5060 Ti 16GB continues to be sold

5070 12GB - official price reduction and continues to be sold

5070 Super 18GB

5070 Ti 16GB remains

5080 16GB silently gets retired

5080 Super 24GB - effectively same perf as current 5080 but with more VRAM

5080 Ti 24GB - extremely unlikely to happen! Cut down 5090 bridging the perf gap between 5080 and 5090.

No change to 5090

 

22 minutes ago, ewitte said:

Nvidia doesn't know 9/10 until something actually launches, they tend to flipflop.

Do you know anyone who knows what the world will be like in a year or more ahead? They can certainly test out likely variations before deciding what options, if any, to go for closer to the time. Even then, the decision will be made months in advance before a release as manufacturing and distribution need to ramp up.

[podkall]

1 hour ago, Emillio said:

Will NVIDIA release a super variant for the 5000 series?

Yes. They released 4080 Super:

 

 

RTX 4080 MSRP: 1200$

 

Price fluctuated until it dropped around 1000$ on sale or somewhere at/below MSRP.

 

RTX 4080 Super MSRP: 999$

 

Why they can suddenly make 2% faster card that is ~200$ cheaper? Nobody knows, but they did.

[Timme]

They most surely will. The 50 series rollout is pretty similar to the 40 series - 5060/ti are trash tier, akin to 5050; 5070 and 5080 are in min specs, without a big difference between them in-game. Plus, at this point, it is much cheaper and efficient to improve the existing platform than figure out the engineering of a 4nm processor.

[ewitte]

22 minutes ago, podkall said:

Yes. They released 4080 Super:

 

RTX 4080 MSRP: 1200$

 

Price fluctuated until it dropped around 1000$ on sale or somewhere at/below MSRP.

 

RTX 4080 Super MSRP: 999$

 

Why they can suddenly make 2% faster card that is ~200$ cheaper? Nobody knows, but they did.

$1200 was overpriced and sales were pretty bad. The big issue is it was too close to the 4090 price which gave you WAY more.    I mean my 4090 was like 1519 with the 5% of for Microcenter card.  Nvidia learned and made the entire lineup horrible value this generation lol.

[GraysonJ90]

2 hours ago, Emillio said:

Will NVIDIA release a super variant for the 5000 series?

Probably. They released them for all the rtx generations so far, wouldn’t expect them not to. Not to mention they usually include more vram in them, which is why they are pretty popular. 

For example

Rtx 4070 vram: 12gb

Rtx 4070 super vram: 16gb

[podkall]

48 minutes ago, ewitte said:

$1200 was overpriced and sales were pretty bad.

1200$ wasn't overpriced, considering 5080 is supposed to be 1000$

 

51 minutes ago, ewitte said:

The big issue is it was too close to the 4090 price which gave you WAY more.

26% for 600$,

 

that's 1.33x higher price for 1.26x performance if my math is mathing, not bad but not always 1600$ retail price, or in stock for 1600$ because scalpers, realistically you paid 1.5x+ for 1.26x performance, so you paid almost double $ for each %, or more depending when you wanted to buy 4090.

 

59 minutes ago, ewitte said:

I mean my 4090 was like 1519 with the 5% of for Microcenter card.

hahahahahahahahahahahah, so you are the 2% of the entire Earth population that is privelaged enough to live near Microcenter? good for you my friend, but objectively 

 

you paid way more for a 4090, and the performance didn't magically accumulate like the price tag from scalpers did.

 

1 hour ago, ewitte said:

Nvidia learned and made the entire lineup horrible value this generation lol.

Honestly 5080 costing same as 4080 but 12% faster isn't that bad, considering is just 1 gen. If you can find it for that price.

[ewitte]

2 hours ago, podkall said:

1200$ wasn't overpriced, considering 5080 is supposed to be 1000$

1200 was horrible value for the 4080. 

[ewitte]

2 hours ago, podkall said:

1200$ wasn't overpriced, considering 5080 is supposed to be 1000$

 

26% for 600$,

 

that's 1.33x higher price for 1.26x performance if my math is mathing, not bad but not always 1600$ retail price, or in stock for 1600$ because scalpers, realistically you paid 1.5x+ for 1.26x performance, so you paid almost double $ for each %, or more depending when you wanted to buy 4090.

 

Average 26% for $400 not $600.  There was a lot of CPU limitations in there when it launched.  Fully GPU limited it is over 50% which is showing up more and more in modern titles.  There are 65% more CUDA cores!  Plus, the extra VRAM is starting to make a difference.  Unlike the 5000 series a few months after releasing there was a decent period where you could get MSRP cards.

[Dedayog]

4 hours ago, porina said:

Nothing is official until it is. A mid generation refresh is not unusual, and they may or may not be called Super. For example, in the past they might have released a Ti of a model where there wasn't one. If they will exist or not depends on the market as a whole, and if there is any competitive pressure. 

 

For 5080 and below, there is some chance they might drop in 3GB chips replacing the 2GB ones, giving a +50% increase in VRAM. While there is a performance gap between 5080 and 5090, it doesn't feel like one that can be filled easily, so I feel it unlikely to happen.

 

Pure guessing on my part:

5060 8GB - official price reduction and continues to be sold

5060 Super 12GB - takes over where 5060 launched at

5060 Ti 8GB silently gets retired

5060 Ti 16GB continues to be sold

5070 12GB - official price reduction and continues to be sold

5070 Super 18GB

5070 Ti 16GB remains

5080 16GB silently gets retired

5080 Super 24GB - effectively same perf as current 5080 but with more VRAM

5080 Ti 24GB - extremely unlikely to happen! Cut down 5090 bridging the perf gap between 5080 and 5090.

No change to 5090

 

Do you know anyone who knows what the world will be like in a year or more ahead? They can certainly test out likely variations before deciding what options, if any, to go for closer to the time. Even then, the decision will be made months in advance before a release as manufacturing and distribution need to ramp up.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/geforce-rtx-5080-5070-super-rumor

[porina]

1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/geforce-rtx-5080-5070-super-rumor

Even without rumours, those are pretty safe guesses anyway.

 

2 hours ago, GraysonJ90 said:

Probably. They released them for all the rtx generations so far, wouldn’t expect them not to. Not to mention they usually include more vram in them, which is why they are pretty popular. 

For example

Rtx 4070 vram: 12gb

Rtx 4070 super vram: 16gb

No Super model that I can remember for 30 series.

Both 4070 and Super were 12GB. You might be thinking of 4070 Ti and 4070 Ti Super which were 12/16 respectively.

[starsmine]

The odds are better for this generation then most generations. Or rather there is no current reason to think there wont be a super refresh of blackwell.