5070 Ti Good/Bad Partner Cards? Are 50 Series drivers still that bad?

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I am considering buying a 5070 Ti. There is no FE cards made. Which partner cards are worth looking into and which should be avoided? Apparently some have "hotspot" issues.

 

Also are the 50 series drivers still fcked? Are AMD drivers actually more stable these days?

[Hinjima]

10 minutes ago, GTC said:

I am considering buying a 5070 Ti. There is no FE cards made. Which partner cards are worth looking into and which should be avoided? Apparently some have "hotspot" issues.

 

Also are the 50 series drivers still fcked? Are AMD drivers actually more stable these days?

Nvidia has done quite a bit to try and fix the drivers. I haven't come across many posts about people having issues with the drivers.

 

TechTesters did a roundup of a few cards, worth checking out.

 

Hotfix 576.15 is out but hard to find.  It fixes most issues.

 

[jaslion]

11 minutes ago, GTC said:

I am considering buying a 5070 Ti. There is no FE cards made. Which partner cards are worth looking into and which should be avoided? Apparently some have "hotspot" issues.

 

Also are the 50 series drivers still fcked? Are AMD drivers actually more stable these days?

Atm the drivers seem somewhat fixed but there seems to still be games with issue making it so that it's best to use older ones. Driver stablity wise they've been the same for years by now. It's just an old perception on amds side from the ati/earlier amd days. Currently I'd say they are even doing better since it well works out of the box.

 

Anyway.

 

Location, budget, usecase? Then we can have a look at the best option.

 

As well as current pc specs psu make and model please. Usually the 5070ti is priced similar to the 9070xt which is the better buy usually.

[PDifolco]

With current gen cards,  there's not much overclocking room, and temps aren't an issue on 50 series, so get the cheapest one

[porina]

I got the MSI Ventus since I could early on at MSRP, which is a somewhat noisier card than average.

 

No personal problems with recent drivers on 50 or older series GPUs. As with all these things, that's not to say there aren't problems with them but like everything reported these days it's hyped to infinity and beyond. It affects some people some of the time.

[PDifolco]

1 minute ago, porina said:

I got the MSI Ventus since I could early on at MSRP, which is a somewhat noisier card than average.

 

No personal problems with recent drivers on 50 or older series GPUs. As with all these things, that's not to say there aren't problems with them but like everything reported these days it's hyped to infinity and beyond. It affects some people some of the time.

From what I have read the previous drivers f**d up the temp sensors in many 3rd party apps (like MSI Afterburner) leading to possible overheat

[porina]

1 minute ago, PDifolco said:

From what I have read the previous drivers f**d up the temp sensors in many 3rd party apps (like MSI Afterburner) leading to possible overheat

From what I have read it only happens in limited conditions, such as resuming from sleep, and it only possibly adversely affects the GPU if you set a custom fan curve. Default ones seem to work. So unless you hit required conditions to trigger it, it doesn't affect most people.

[PDifolco]

1 hour ago, porina said:

From what I have read it only happens in limited conditions, such as resuming from sleep, and it only possibly adversely affects the GPU if you set a custom fan curve. Default ones seem to work. So unless you hit required conditions to trigger it, it doesn't affect most people.

It's still pretty amateurish from NVidia to botch something they shouldn't touch at all

[xg32]

10 hours ago, GTC said:

I am considering buying a 5070 Ti. There is no FE cards made. Which partner cards are worth looking into and which should be avoided? Apparently some have "hotspot" issues.

 

Also are the 50 series drivers still fcked? Are AMD drivers actually more stable these days?

576.02 was bad no problem with 576.15 yet but i've only been on it for two days. The early 50 series drivers had signs of power delivery issues and killed some cards in the wild, don't touch the drivers between 566.36 and 576.15. They are indeed worse than amd drivers atm, especially if you need to use drivers after 566.36 for the 50-series cards.

 

As for cards, just get the cheapest one you can find.

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12 hours ago, PDifolco said:

With current gen cards,  there's not much overclocking room, and temps aren't an issue on 50 series, so get the cheapest one

I saw this which says they get hotspots which are not measured, sometimes in excess of 100 degrees

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13 hours ago, jaslion said:

Atm the drivers seem somewhat fixed but there seems to still be games with issue making it so that it's best to use older ones. Driver stablity wise they've been the same for years by now. It's just an old perception on amds side from the ati/earlier amd days. Currently I'd say they are even doing better since it well works out of the box.

 

Anyway.

 

Location, budget, usecase? Then we can have a look at the best option.

 

As well as current pc specs psu make and model please. Usually the 5070ti is priced similar to the 9070xt which is the better buy usually.

Location: Germany

Budget: anything except 5090 (so 1200EUR I guess, but I want decent value/bang for buck - hard these days I know)

Usecase: 80% CS2, some cyberpunk and other games, some light video editing/photoshop/blender and potentially some training an AI on videos

Current PC:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX V2 ATX AM5 Motherboard 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus W/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING Radeon RX 590 8 GB Video Card  
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 12 1500 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  

[Why_Me]

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[PDifolco]

9 hours ago, GTC said:

I saw this which says they get hotspots which are not measured, sometimes in excess of 100 degrees

Yeah but seems to be a design issue, andt here's no way to tell  it's better or worse on certain models

NVidia sneakily removed the hotspot temp sensor on 5000 cards, so it won't be easy to do ...

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2 hours ago, PDifolco said:

Yeah but seems to be a design issue, andt here's no way to tell  it's better or worse on certain models

NVidia sneakily removed the hotspot temp sensor on 5000 cards, so it won't be easy to do ...

Ah ok, so not worth worrying about I guess. And in your opninion how big an issue is it actually? is it worth looking into avoiding 50 series over this?