computer not booting after upgrade

[n0raa]

the build:

-amd ryzen 5 5500

-ryzen 7 2700x cooler

-4 sticks 32gb total 3000mhz

-asus rog strix b450f mobo

-rtx 2060

 

so i made this with my dad in 2018 with the 2700x, 16gb 3000mhz, and a gt710. i upgraded the gpu to 2060 a few months ago, and it was working great. then i upgraded the ram to 32gb using another pair of the same ram, but then i ran into trouble overclocking to the rated speeds, games like fortnite kept crashing. i reduced the speeds and either increased or decreased the voltage, i forgot, and it was stable for a while. during this i was also getting the orange light on my motherboard, ram issue, so i swapped the dims around and one combo seemed to work. recently i decided to go from my 2700x to the 5500, but after the swap, i got the same orange light and no boot. i tried swapping the ram around again but its not working. i read that you have to update the bios for the 5000 series chips to work, but im confident i updated it in the past.

 what should i do/my first step be?

[Tetras]

9 minutes ago, n0raa said:

i read that you have to update the bios for the 5000 series chips to work, but im confident i updated it in the past.

By "in the past" when are we talking? There was a very large amount of time between the release of this motherboard and the Ryzen 5500.

[Timme]

Reset the BIOS by disconnecting the CMOS battery.

Try either of the sticks alone in different slots. If it boots, test with 16 and 32.

 

 

[n0raa]

31 minutes ago, Tetras said:

By "in the past" when are we talking? There was a very large amount of time between the release of this motherboard and the Ryzen 5500.

yeah i’m not very sure if i did it at all, sorry i can’t provide a time frame

[n0raa]

25 minutes ago, Timme said:

Reset the BIOS by disconnecting the CMOS battery.

Try either of the sticks alone in different slots. If it boots, test with 16 and 32.

 

 

i will try that, thank you

[-rascal-]

Likely the motherboard topology unable to run 4x DIMMs, especially with XMP / EXPO enabled.

The Ryzen 5500 is 'Zen 3' based, so the CPU's Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) should be able to handle DDR4-3000.

The "sweet spot" for Ryzen 5000-series was DDR4-3600.

 

What happens if you just run with a single kit (e.g. 2 X 8GB)?

What are the part number AND serial number of the memory kits?

If they are ~7 years apart, I doubt the serial number, or revision number, be identical.

[strange13930]

1 hour ago, n0raa said:

the build:

-amd ryzen 5 5500

-ryzen 7 2700x cooler

-4 sticks 32gb total 3000mhz

-asus rog strix b450f mobo

-rtx 2060

 

so i made this with my dad in 2018 with the 2700x, 16gb 3000mhz, and a gt710. i upgraded the gpu to 2060 a few months ago, and it was working great. then i upgraded the ram to 32gb using another pair of the same ram, but then i ran into trouble overclocking to the rated speeds, games like fortnite kept crashing. i reduced the speeds and either increased or decreased the voltage, i forgot, and it was stable for a while. during this i was also getting the orange light on my motherboard, ram issue, so i swapped the dims around and one combo seemed to work. recently i decided to go from my 2700x to the 5500, but after the swap, i got the same orange light and no boot. i tried swapping the ram around again but its not working. i read that you have to update the bios for the 5000 series chips to work, but im confident i updated it in the past.

 what should i do/my first step be?

 

43 minutes ago, n0raa said:

yeah i’m not very sure if i did it at all, sorry i can’t provide a time frame

update your bios to the newest version

[Tetras]

1 hour ago, n0raa said:

yeah i’m not very sure if i did it at all, sorry i can’t provide a time frame

That's probably your issue then, you have a much newer cpu than the bios can recognise.

[SorryBella]

2 hours ago, n0raa said:

i read that you have to update the bios for the 5000 series chips to work, but im confident i updated it in the past.

Never hurts to double check. Use your 2700X to boot, and then update the BIOS to the latest version.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

51 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

Likely the motherboard topology unable to run 4x DIMMs, especially with XMP / EXPO enabled.

The Ryzen 5500 is 'Zen 3' based, so the CPU's Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) should be able to handle DDR4-3000.

The "sweet spot" for Ryzen 5000-series was DDR4-3600.

 

What happens if you just run with a single kit (e.g. 2 X 8GB)?

What are the part number AND serial number of the memory kits?

If they are ~7 years apart, I doubt the serial number, or revision number, be identical.

Sweetspot is 3600 for xmp and 3800-4000 tuned (highest 1:1 fclk) but thats for the cpus

 

The apus are very different with much better imcs so its more like ddr4 5000 for the 5500 as it can indeed run 2500+ fclk with previous gen renoir around 4600

 

1 hour ago, n0raa said:

yeah i’m not very sure if i did it at all, sorry i can’t provide a time frame

Swap the 2700x back in and update the bios as that sounds like your issue

 

and you are most definitely running mix matched ics hence the instability so send thaiphoon burner screenies and identify ics for all 4 sticks, with the ics identified per stick place one type of ic in the inner two slots and the other in the outer two slots as that should help abit as mix match ics unless theyre identical tend to absolutely hate running in the same channel

 

Prefferably youd ditch those rubbish xmp sticks and trade them for a couple oem hma82gu6djr8n which will do 4600+ with ease and stability as shown here which you can also use as a reference

[-rascal-]

19 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Sweetspot is 3600 for xmp and 3800-4000 tuned (highest 1:1 fclk) but thats for the cpus

 

The apus are very different with much better imcs so its more like ddr4 5000 for the 5500 as it can indeed run 2500+ fclk with previous gen renoir around 4600

 

Swap the 2700x back in and update the bios as that sounds like your issue

 

and you are most definitely running mix matched ics hence the instability so send thaiphoon burner screenies and identify ics for all 4 sticks, with the ics identified per stick place one type of ic in the inner two slots and the other in the outer two slots as that should help abit as mix match ics unless theyre identical tend to absolutely hate running in the same channel

 

Prefferably youd ditch those rubbish xmp sticks and trade them for a couple oem hma82gu6djr8n which will do 4600+ with ease and stability as shown here which you can also use as a reference

 

Ah, right the Ryzen 5500 is 'Cezanne' based, like the 5600G, rather than 'Vermeer' for the 5600(X).

 

I missed that part where OP may have NOT updated the BIOS yet to support Ryzen 5000-series.
 

@n0raa as already mentioned, you need to update the BIOS to enable the motherboard to support Ryzen 5000-series CPUs; it does not support it out-of-the-box. The Strix B450-F does not have the 'USB BIOS Flashback' feature, so you'll need to put your old Ryzen 2700X back in first.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

14 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

Ah, right the Ryzen 5500 is 'Cezanne' based, like the 5600G, rather than 'Vermeer' for the 5600(X).

 

I missed that part where OP may have NOT updated the BIOS yet to support Ryzen 5000-series.
 

@n0raa as already mentioned, you need to update the BIOS to enable the motherboard to support Ryzen 5000-series CPUs; it does not support it out-of-the-box. The Strix B450-F does not have the 'USB BIOS Flashback' feature, so you'll need to put your old Ryzen 2700X back in first.

Also needs a newer bios as cezzane was released later than vermeer but aside from ram overclocking there usually isnt much of a reason to run an older bios

[n0raa]

16 hours ago, n0raa said:

the build:

-amd ryzen 5 5500

-ryzen 7 2700x cooler

-4 sticks 32gb total 3000mhz

-asus rog strix b450f mobo

-rtx 2060

 

so i made this with my dad in 2018 with the 2700x, 16gb 3000mhz, and a gt710. i upgraded the gpu to 2060 a few months ago, and it was working great. then i upgraded the ram to 32gb using another pair of the same ram, but then i ran into trouble overclocking to the rated speeds, games like fortnite kept crashing. i reduced the speeds and either increased or decreased the voltage, i forgot, and it was stable for a while. during this i was also getting the orange light on my motherboard, ram issue, so i swapped the dims around and one combo seemed to work. recently i decided to go from my 2700x to the 5500, but after the swap, i got the same orange light and no boot. i tried swapping the ram around again but its not working. i read that you have to update the bios for the 5000 series chips to work, but im confident i updated it in the past.

 what should i do/my first step be?

thank you everyone for the support!

i think my first step will be to reset cmos.

then i’ll swap back my 2700x and update the bios.

if that doesn’t work, i’ll check the ram and try to align the ics to the channels (though i believe they are the exact same sticks because they have the same serials and i bought them from the same listing).

i’ll play around with the config of the ram with 2 sticks after.

once everything is working again, then i’ll consider upgrading my ram to a better speed.

 

i couldn’t thank you guys enough for all the help (especially so fast, like damn!), really, thank you.

[n0raa]

UPDATE:

 

ok so after resetting the cmos i realized that my bios was almost definitely out of date so i didnt even attempt to boot after that

 

i swapped back my 2700x and, guess what, it booted

it was then i realized the most recent bios on the asus website was 5602, and i was running 2605

so i downloaded the bios onto a formatted usb flash drive (ran into some trouble, turns out i had to put in the biosrenamer.exe even though my mobo doesnt support flashback)

then it booted!!!

i had to fix some tpm stuff but other than that, ram speeds back to normal, it recognizes my new cpu, and im about to go test out some games right now to see how its working!

 

thank you all so much again, i legit couldnt have done it without you