Dual 7900XT or 1 5070ti?

[Cyberwarp]

Hi, my use case is for rendering in blender and other productivity stuff. Which should i get? 1 7900xt is for 600 at microcenter.

[strange13930]

14 minutes ago, Cyberwarp said:

Hi, my use case is for rendering in blender and other productivity stuff. Which should i get? 1 7900xt is for 600 at microcenter.

the 5070 ti is going to suit your needs better.

[podkall]

How much for 5070 Ti? For your productivity applications it's considerably better to go Nvidia.

[Agall]

51 minutes ago, Cyberwarp said:

Hi, my use case is for rendering in blender and other productivity stuff. Which should i get? 1 7900xt is for 600 at microcenter.

5 minutes ago, podkall said:

How much for 5070 Ti? For your productivity applications it's considerably better to go Nvidia.

For $600, its hard to argue against the 7900 XT, I bought one to have a spare at $650, lol.

 

SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 7900 XT Video Card 21323-01-20G - Newegg.com

 

If the 5070ti isn't MSRP, aka $750, then its not worth it in my opinion if the 7900XT does what you need it to. 5070ti's in comparison are $900 or more for maybe 15% more performance over a 7900 XT.

[starsmine]

11 minutes ago, Agall said:

For $600, its hard to argue against the 7900 XT, I bought one to have a spare at $650, lol.

 

SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 7900 XT Video Card 21323-01-20G - Newegg.com

 

If the 5070ti isn't MSRP, aka $750, then its not worth it in my opinion if the 7900XT does what you need it to. 5070ti's in comparison are $900 or more for maybe 15% more performance over a 7900 XT.

Im guessing its because 1200 is about the price of the 5070ti in their area. 
so same cost. 

I just dont know how well blender handles two non-workstation GPUs in terms of load sharing. 

[Cyberwarp]

Just now, starsmine said:

1200

Your right!!!

Im going to the SoCal tech fair inshallah, so I MIGHT find some GPUs MSRP? 4080 and 4090 would work as well.

[Cyberwarp]

Is 900 good?

27 minutes ago, Agall said:

$750

[Agall]

19 minutes ago, Cyberwarp said:

Is 900 good?

$900 isn't terrible, I've eyed these recently, but the 5070ti is only ~15% better than a 7900 XT in this case for 50% increase in cost.

[Tetras]

1 hour ago, Cyberwarp said:

Which should i get?

At least in the benchmarks I've seen on places like Puget, AMD's 7900 XT/XTX are much slower than nvidia in Blender, to the point that I expect a single 5070 Ti would still beat two of them.

[Cyberwarp]

10 minutes ago, Tetras said:

At least in the benchmarks I've seen on places like Puget, AMD's 7900 XT/XTX are much slower than nvidia in Blender, to the point that I expect a single 5070 Ti would still beat two of them.

That’s crazy!!! Wow

[Nocte]

48 minutes ago, Agall said:

$900 isn't terrible, I've eyed these recently, but the 5070ti is only ~15% better than a 7900 XT in this case for 50% increase in cost.

Blender and gaming aren't the same thing. I like both AMD and NVIDIA GPUs, but until AMD catches up on productivity workloads NVIDIA is simply the better choice for anything non-gaming related.

[starsmine]

1 hour ago, Nocte said:

Blender and gaming aren't the same thing. I like both AMD and NVIDIA GPUs, but until AMD catches up on productivity workloads NVIDIA is simply the better choice for anything non-gaming related.

EH?
https://www.pugetsystems.com/pugetbench/results/compare/PugetBench for Premiere Pro/23/GPU/AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT/NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti/

Like yes in blender nvidia is better. but that is explicitly a blender problem. They choose to not compile blender to run well on AMD.
https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-radeon-rx9070-linux-compute/6

[Mark Kaine]

1 hour ago, starsmine said:

but that is explicitly a blender problem

I mean yeah. And everyone's else's problem with an AMD card...

 

That's crazy they're hating so much on amd tho... Maybe it killed their cat or something?

[CatTNT]

AMD just can't compete in blender. For almost any other use, they offer better price/performance, but not blender. 

[podkall]

4 hours ago, Cyberwarp said:

Is 900 good?

better than 1200, still not quite 750.

 

It's still decent, 850 would be better even if it is still 100$ above MSRP.

 

4 hours ago, Agall said:

$900 isn't terrible, I've eyed these recently, but the 5070ti is only ~15% better than a 7900 XT in this case for 50% increase in cost.

900$ is like 23-25% higher price, which is still more than 15% jump from 7900 XT in performance.

 

 

still:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-ventus-3x/39.html

 

 

 

2 hours ago, starsmine said:

EH?
https://www.pugetsystems.com/pugetbench/results/compare/PugetBench for Premiere Pro/23/GPU/AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT/NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti/

Like yes in blender nvidia is better. but that is explicitly a blender problem. They choose to not compile blender to run well on AMD.
https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-radeon-rx9070-linux-compute/6

There's empty gaps in both benchmark selections.

[Spotty]

Blender has benchmark scores for GPUs listed on their website. https://opendata.blender.org/benchmarks/query/

The 5070Ti (7438pts) scores about twice that of the 7900XT (3608pts) - though I'm not sure how well that benchmark score translates in to real world performance, and your projects will vary from the benchmark. Blender should be able to scale fairly well with multiple GPUs so going off the benchmark scores two 7900XTs should get you close to the same performance as a 5070Ti. Power consumption for the 5070ti and 7900XT is about the same (around 300W max), so running two 7900XTs would double the power consumption (and run hotter). A single 5070ti for $900 would be better than two 7900XTs for $1200 in my opinion.

 

 

 

[starsmine]

1 hour ago, Mark Kaine said:

I mean yeah. And everyone's else's problem with an AMD card...

 

That's crazy they're hating so much on amd tho... Maybe it killed their cat or something?

 

54 minutes ago, CatTNT said:

AMD just can't compete in blender. For almost any other use, they offer better price/performance, but not blender. 

Looks like blender is trying to get past the murded cat.
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Blender-4.3-Released

But the benchmarks for 4.3 and 4.4 for AMD cards running HIP and Nvidia cards running OptiX/Cuda are like nonexistent. 

It looks like the 7900xtx is about the same as a 4070 with HIP from what I can gather from this unreadable page
https://openbenchmarking.org/test/pts/blender&eval=08be1365b457ed1814acf3f75ee6e1af0318d61b#metrics

7900xtx running Junkshop can do it in 77 seconds
4070 super in cuda is 80 seconds
4070 super in optix is 55 seconds

This might be a pretty benchmark in a year when the HIP version is better written past its "beta" in 4.3

[Agall]

10 hours ago, podkall said:

900$ is like 23-25% higher price, which is still more than 15% jump from 7900 XT in performance.

$600*1.5 = $900.

 

14 hours ago, Nocte said:

Blender and gaming aren't the same thing. I like both AMD and NVIDIA GPUs, but until AMD catches up on productivity workloads NVIDIA is simply the better choice for anything non-gaming related.

Generally true, there's also the reality that some people come to that you don't always have to get the absolute best for a specific task. I see this with people buying CPUs that may benefit from going with a 16c/32t variant but don't because its not actually necessary.

 

OP could answer this question if it was only about one application themselves with a quick Google search, so its more complicated than that (hopefully).

[podkall]

57 minutes ago, Agall said:

$600*1.5 = $900.

5070 Ti is MSRP 750$

 

750*1.24=915

[Agall]

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

5070 Ti is MSRP 750$

[podkall]

4 minutes ago, Agall said:

it's only 20% more expensive than it should be.

[Cyberwarp]

20 hours ago, Spotty said:

Blender should be able to scale fairly well with multiple GPU

Thanks, how do I use 2 gpus? like, dual 5070ti.