7800x3d, 9800x3d and Zen6

[morozzs]

Planning a new build and deciding between 9800x3d (670$) and 7800x3d (450$) for 2k gaming. I wanted to get 9800, but it's probably not a smart move at this price difference? Is it more reasonable to take 7800 now, wait for Zen6, sell it and upgrade then?

[porina]

Ask yourself is that small % difference in gaming performance worth it for you. Is there any other use case you have which might swing it for 9800X3D? e.g. if you have a workload that makes use of the massive speedups from better AVX-512 implementation?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Given the price difference yeah youd be stupid to buy the 9800x3d though given your resolution youll likely see similar performance from a 7600 unless you play factorio, simulator games, or something like that

[jaslion]

I mean the price difference is the cost of your motherboard. Well actually a good board is like 150$ so yeah that would bring it into perspective that the 5-15% performance uplift (depending on kinds of tasks the x3d cache is odd) may not be worth the MASSIVE 220$ price increase.

1 hour ago, morozzs said:

take 7800 now, wait for Zen6, sell it and upgrade then?

Why? You have a TOP end cpu like TOP 5 gaming chips RIGHT NOW. Probably even TOP 3. By the time this starts showing it's age you'd probably be 2 or 3 new gpu's in. There's no point in doing constant minor upgrades like these.

 

See the 5800x3d came out 3 years ago still games like a KING doesn't struggle at all. Yes there's better now but well that always happens. You can slap a 4090 with that chip and have a AMAZING time. The 7800x3d is heaps better than that so yeah don't worry about that and spend the money on something that matters like more storage or a better gpu.

 

[PDifolco]

Yeah price difference of +50% for max +15% performance at 1080p is crap value, get the 7800X3D

[SorryBella]

2 hours ago, morozzs said:

Is it more reasonable to take 7800 now, wait for Zen6, sell it and upgrade then?

Do you competitively play CS:GO, routinely get the prize pool, and exclusively play at 1080p?

 

If the answer is yes, then yeah make sense. If youre literally anyone else, no. Not even a slight hint of a yes.

[morozzs]

Thanks. You convinced me.

10 hours ago, porina said:

Ask yourself is that small % difference in gaming performance worth it for you. Is there any other use case you have which might swing it for 9800X3D? e.g. if you have a workload that makes use of the massive speedups from better AVX-512 implementation?

I also do video editing in DaVinchi Resolve as a hobby, but I don't really see myself making a choice based on it. I mean, till now I've been managing with a i5-3550 somehow.

[starsmine]

Zen 6 wont be out until at least Q1/Q2
Even if they are taping it out now, so I do not expect it be delayed. If you are looking to build, there is no reason to wait. 

[morozzs]

15 minutes ago, starsmine said:

Zen 6 wont be out until at least Q1/Q2
Even if they are taping it out now, so I do not expect it be delayed. If you are looking to build, there is no reason to wait. 

Nah, I'm not waiting. I just wondered if it's a good idea to take 7800x3d now and later swap it if Zen6 has something good to offer, which will probably be enough for some years and I won't have to rebuild everything on AM6 too soon.

[starsmine]

4 minutes ago, morozzs said:

Nah, I'm not waiting. I just wondered if it's a good idea to take 7800x3d now and later swap it if Zen6 has something good to offer, which will probably be enough for some years and I won't have to rebuild everything on AM6 too soon.

Thats been my plan. Bought zen 4 when it came out, will upgrade to zen6x3d when zen 7/post zen comes out. 

Zen 6 seems more promising then zen 5 was to me from the information I have gathered about it, but I dont know anything with confidence.