Pls help with new system based on Intel 285k

[Sniper101]

Hi all,

Not doing so well....

 

Specs:

 

CPU: Intel 285k -

MB: Asrock Z890i Nova itx

RAM: G.SKILL CUDIMM 8800mhz 2 x 24gb (on mb QVL)

GPU: XFX 9070 XT Mercury Magnetic Air OC

PSU: Corsair SF1000

NVME's: 2 x Samsung 990 Pro 1tb (dual boot w11 Enterprise + Ubuntu 24.02.LTS)

CASE: Lian Li A3 matx

COOLING: Custom watercooling - AC Kryos Cuplex Vision block - AC AMS 480 Rad, D5 pump, EKWB QSC D5 top, ZMT tubing "1/4 od, Koolance 702 clear coolant, 4 x Phanteks T-30 fans

THERMAL COOLING: Thermal Grizzly Contact Frame LGA 1851, Thermal Grizzly Kryosheet.

 

Running: Asrocks "extreme profile mode" - XMP 1 profile 8800mhz GEAR 2 - D2D-30, NGU-30 - RING 38 (stock) - PL1-300/PL2-318w that's about it.

 

Initial tests done:

 

Memtest86 = PASS (almost 3 hours) did it twice once for GEAR 4 = pass, and GEAR 2 = pass.

Prime95 "ICM stress cpu memory controller and RAM stress" 1 hour no errors

OCCT: OCCT large dataset, Extreme Preset 1 hour no errors

Cinebench23: No errors

 

From what i gather people said my cpu rated at SP-107 is a "nice" chip....could easily do on stock Pcore-5.5/5.6ghz - D2D 32 - NGU 32 - RING 40. I tried that but crash sometimes in C23 and in games.

I removed the mild bump on P and E cores. So im just running with ONLY "extreme profile mode", XMP 1 8800mhz GEAR 2, D2D-30, NGU-30, RING 38 (stock)

Latency = around 77ns to 78ns tested with AIDA.

All i want is a mild OC on RING and Pcore (5.5 ot 5.6ghz) Ecore at 4.9 maybe 5.0ghz Ring at 40/41 to give that lower latency i would be happy with a latency of 72/73ns lower is better but without to much tweaking.

I am a simple BIOS user not looking for max oc or get every ounce of performance. I use pc for gaming, browsing, sometimes video edit, light work related stuff

 

From a veteran overclocker i get these settings:

Ring voltage mode: to "Override" and set value to 1.1v.
NGU memory fabric voltage mode: to "override" and set value to 0.85v
PL1 and PL2 ie 300 - 318w, D2D and NGU ratio at 32 both, CPU cache ratio at 40

 

It crashed during simple browsing then i upped the ring voltage mode value to 1.2v and NGU memory fabric to override at 0.900v also crash.

Then he said use his TM5 test and also use OCCT large dataset, extreme preset 1 hour so both TM5 and OCCT for 1 hour OCCT said "no errors" but....

 

TM5... he said: "Your TM5 froze after the 2nd cycle. CPU cores instability on weak SSE load."

What does this mean? weak SSE due to my "extreme profile" inside bios? Or it needs some other BIOS settings to optimize it or more voltages inside a certain setting or is this cpu faulty?

Right now its at "extreme profile mode", XMP 1 8800mhz GEAR 2, D2D-30, NGU-30, RING 38 (stock) play games Elden Ring no crash, browsing for hours no crash, Cyber Punk 1 hour no crash but yesterday crashed but due to driver issue apparently more 9070 users experienced crashing in CP2077.

 

What to do now? Some tests give you a full pass yet still crash or one test shows instability while others DON'T...

IM at a loss here frustrated tossing these terms i don't have a clear understanding of. It seems my cpu works stable with tests exept TM5 which came from download from a member.

Can some one help me and explain the above in simple terms so i can follow and help me with just a mild oc on P and E cores D2D, NGU and RING (no need for high oc)

 

Thanks for any one willing to help me put a lot of effort in this money and money.....not feeling happy at all....

 

[Echothedolpin]

1 hour ago, Sniper101 said:

Hi all,

Not doing so well....

 

Specs:

 

CPU: Intel 285k -

MB: Asrock Z890i Nova itx

RAM: G.SKILL CUDIMM 8800mhz 2 x 24gb (on mb QVL)

GPU: XFX 9070 XT Mercury Magnetic Air OC

PSU: Corsair SF1000

NVME's: 2 x Samsung 990 Pro 1tb (dual boot w11 Enterprise + Ubuntu 24.02.LTS)

CASE: Lian Li A3 matx

COOLING: Custom watercooling - AC Kryos Cuplex Vision block - AC AMS 480 Rad, D5 pump, EKWB QSC D5 top, ZMT tubing "1/4 od, Koolance 702 clear coolant, 4 x Phanteks T-30 fans

THERMAL COOLING: Thermal Grizzly Contact Frame LGA 1851, Thermal Grizzly Kryosheet.

 

Running: Asrocks "extreme profile mode" - XMP 1 profile 8800mhz GEAR 2 - D2D-30, NGU-30 - RING 38 (stock) - PL1-300/PL2-318w that's about it.

 

Initial tests done:

 

Memtest86 = PASS (almost 3 hours) did it twice once for GEAR 4 = pass, and GEAR 2 = pass.

Prime95 "ICM stress cpu memory controller and RAM stress" 1 hour no errors

OCCT: OCCT large dataset, Extreme Preset 1 hour no errors

Cinebench23: No errors

 

From what i gather people said my cpu rated at SP-107 is a "nice" chip....could easily do on stock Pcore-5.5/5.6ghz - D2D 32 - NGU 32 - RING 40. I tried that but crash sometimes in C23 and in games.

I removed the mild bump on P and E cores. So im just running with ONLY "extreme profile mode", XMP 1 8800mhz GEAR 2, D2D-30, NGU-30, RING 38 (stock)

Latency = around 77ns to 78ns tested with AIDA.

All i want is a mild OC on RING and Pcore (5.5 ot 5.6ghz) Ecore at 4.9 maybe 5.0ghz Ring at 40/41 to give that lower latency i would be happy with a latency of 72/73ns lower is better but without to much tweaking.

I am a simple BIOS user not looking for max oc or get every ounce of performance. I use pc for gaming, browsing, sometimes video edit, light work related stuff

 

From a veteran overclocker i get these settings:

Ring voltage mode: to "Override" and set value to 1.1v.
NGU memory fabric voltage mode: to "override" and set value to 0.85v
PL1 and PL2 ie 300 - 318w, D2D and NGU ratio at 32 both, CPU cache ratio at 40

 

It crashed during simple browsing then i upped the ring voltage mode value to 1.2v and NGU memory fabric to override at 0.900v also crash.

Then he said use his TM5 test and also use OCCT large dataset, extreme preset 1 hour so both TM5 and OCCT for 1 hour OCCT said "no errors" but....

 

TM5... he said: "Your TM5 froze after the 2nd cycle. CPU cores instability on weak SSE load."

What does this mean? weak SSE due to my "extreme profile" inside bios? Or it needs some other BIOS settings to optimize it or more voltages inside a certain setting or is this cpu faulty?

Right now its at "extreme profile mode", XMP 1 8800mhz GEAR 2, D2D-30, NGU-30, RING 38 (stock) play games Elden Ring no crash, browsing for hours no crash, Cyber Punk 1 hour no crash but yesterday crashed but due to driver issue apparently more 9070 users experienced crashing in CP2077.

 

What to do now? Some tests give you a full pass yet still crash or one test shows instability while others DON'T...

IM at a loss here frustrated tossing these terms i don't have a clear understanding of. It seems my cpu works stable with tests exept TM5 which came from download from a member.

Can some one help me and explain the above in simple terms so i can follow and help me with just a mild oc on P and E cores D2D, NGU and RING (no need for high oc)

 

Thanks for any one willing to help me put a lot of effort in this money and money.....not feeling happy at all....

 

What exactly is your goal with overclocking?
 

It’s almost never a good idea to go with someone else’s settings as every single chip is going to be slightly different and just taking someone else’s settings and copy pasting them and expecting similar results is only going frustrate you.

[Sniper101]

1 hour ago, Echothedolpin said:

What exactly is your goal with overclocking?
 

It’s almost never a good idea to go with someone else’s settings as every single chip is going to be slightly different and just taking someone else’s settings and copy pasting them and expecting similar results is only going frustrate you.

Thanks for the reply,

 

I did not just copy some ones settings.

 

This was given to me ie what to change according to my specs and the guy told me what to try first. He is well known there as a veteran overclocker.

Although all i asked was a mild oc without doing fancy complicated things not looking for every ounce of performance nor the highest overclock nor benchmark records. So he gave me the settings what to change ie only use my "Extreme profile mode" run D2D 32, NGU 32, Ring 40 with the changed voltage as shown above in my first post. Of course i am not copying some ones else setup this is asking for trouble. So no, no copying.

 

"Your TM5 froze after the 2nd cycle. CPU cores instability on weak SSE load."

What does this mean? I did initial tests the all passed except this TM5 well HIS TM5 not the official one.

CPU cores instability on weak SSE load....i have no clue what that means....is it a bad cpu? or bad extreme profile bios setup?

Way to fix it?

[Tetras]

1 hour ago, Sniper101 said:

CPU cores instability on weak SSE load....i have no clue what that means....is it a bad cpu? or bad extreme profile bios setup?

Best ask the person who told you that, I'd think, but my assumption would be that they're saying: when the CPU is using a specific type of instruction, there's instability that doesn't manifest elsewhere, suggesting that to restore stability across all workloads you need to make changes to the settings.

 

I'm aware of the use of AVX having a frequency offset on Intel boards for a long time, but haven't heard of one specific to SSE. It might be something only meaningful to overclockers.

 

Bad CPU: no, I'm pretty sure that was not the intended message.

[Sniper101]

1 hour ago, Tetras said:

Best ask the person who told you that, I'd think, but my assumption would be that they're saying: when the CPU is using a specific type of instruction, there's instability that doesn't manifest elsewhere, suggesting that to restore stability across all workloads you need to make changes to the settings.

 

I'm aware of the use of AVX having a frequency offset on Intel boards for a long time, but haven't heard of one specific to SSE. It might be something only meaningful to overclockers.

 

Bad CPU: no, I'm pretty sure that was not the intended message.

Yes ive heard that latest intel cpu's dont really need "SSE".

I was just very concerned about my expensive cpu because i have TILL Friday IF i want to RMA the cpu in case of fault and get a new one or money back.

I have asked the one who gave me these settings still waiting for his reply tho....Seeing people commend me with my "won the silicon lottery cpu" ie SP-107....i was hesistant to believe that. Just with only Asrock's "extreme profile" BIOS option and NGU-32, D2D-32, RING ratio-40 = crash on gaming this with stock voltages they gave me changed voltage settings but they failled too see my first post for the voltage changes.

 

My guess they give me certain settings in THE perspective of hardcore overclocking for every ounce of performance while maybe not seeing a guy who just want a stable system for gaming with some mild OC on Pcores and Ecores plus higher D2D/NGU and RING value that's it. Il have to wait and see.

[Echothedolpin]

9 hours ago, Sniper101 said:

Yes ive heard that latest intel cpu's dont really need "SSE".

I was just very concerned about my expensive cpu because i have TILL Friday IF i want to RMA the cpu in case of fault and get a new one or money back.

I have asked the one who gave me these settings still waiting for his reply tho....Seeing people commend me with my "won the silicon lottery cpu" ie SP-107....i was hesistant to believe that. Just with only Asrock's "extreme profile" BIOS option and NGU-32, D2D-32, RING ratio-40 = crash on gaming this with stock voltages they gave me changed voltage settings but they failled too see my first post for the voltage changes.

 

My guess they give me certain settings in THE perspective of hardcore overclocking for every ounce of performance while maybe not seeing a guy who just want a stable system for gaming with some mild OC on Pcores and Ecores plus higher D2D/NGU and RING value that's it. Il have to wait and see.

That’s what I was attempting to explain: just taking settings and applying them without gradually incrementing and testing isn’t going to produce reliable results. 
 

I’m questioning your sources of information as I would never claim having won the silicon lottery without having an exceptional overclock on a specific chip that has passed extensive testing. If it isn’t stable at a particular OC, it isn’t passing testing and therefore no claims can be made yet.

 

Also, if you don’t understand what they’re telling you, ask for help ask for explanation. Sounds like they’re getting very technical for some reason and talking about specific instruction sets not passing specific tests doesn’t really help you if you don’t know what they’re telling are. 
 

Additionally, just because a chip doesn’t OC well doesn’t mean you can RMA. They may accept it or may not, but it’s not a guarantee. No company will guarantee performance other than what’s on the box.

 

I’m not trying to be all doing negative and doom and gloom! Just trying to help you establish realistic expectations, and have you ask the people helping you good questions. They’re not helping you if they’re trying to wow you with how technical and experienced they are. 

[Tetras]

10 hours ago, Sniper101 said:

I was just very concerned about my expensive cpu because i have TILL Friday IF i want to RMA the cpu in case of fault and get a new one or money back.

Really? Retail boxed CPUs should have a 3 year warranty and tray CPUs at least 1 year? In any case, you'd need to run your CPU at stock settings and I can't see any evidence so far that your CPU is broken? Instability when OCed is normal, until you find stable settings.

 

10 hours ago, Sniper101 said:

My guess they give me certain settings in THE perspective of hardcore overclocking for every ounce of performance while maybe not seeing a guy who just want a stable system for gaming with some mild OC on Pcores and Ecores plus higher D2D/NGU and RING value that's it. Il have to wait and see.

Yeah, pretty much. To be honest, most overclockers nowadays are doing it for fun, just for benchmarks, or for social media. They're really only interested in stability in one or two apps that they use for testing and scores, not for a 24/7 build.

 

Overclocking for regular use is pretty much dead, because modern CPUs are pushed very hard "out of the box". If you want a stable system for gaming, I'd look into Intel's "200S boost" which is supposed to be announced today and I believe is covered by the warranty.

 

Better yet, I'd just put everything back to stock and enjoy your games.

[Sniper101]

7 hours ago, Echothedolpin said:

That’s what I was attempting to explain: just taking settings and applying them without gradually incrementing and testing isn’t going to produce reliable results. 
 

I’m questioning your sources of information as I would never claim having won the silicon lottery without having an exceptional overclock on a specific chip that has passed extensive testing. If it isn’t stable at a particular OC, it isn’t passing testing and therefore no claims can be made yet.

 

Also, if you don’t understand what they’re telling you, ask for help ask for explanation. Sounds like they’re getting very technical for some reason and talking about specific instruction sets not passing specific tests doesn’t really help you if you don’t know what they’re telling are. 
 

Additionally, just because a chip doesn’t OC well doesn’t mean you can RMA. They may accept it or may not, but it’s not a guarantee. No company will guarantee performance other than what’s on the box.

 

I’m not trying to be all doing negative and doom and gloom! Just trying to help you establish realistic expectations, and have you ask the people helping you good questions. They’re not helping you if they’re trying to wow you with how technical and experienced they are. 

 

Yeah....i kept asking for clarification what these results mean. But they did not reply yet however they do comment after my posts completely ignoring my plee for help and thats been 2 days now....i would say enough time to respond. No i was never bragging about my SP-rating as i said within that thread "well nice...but seeing is believing but there is a reason why they put a SP rating on chips" they said nice chip. It can probably OC high with the right amount of tweaks and patience but also can be average on certain other aspects of the cpu or even kind of bad...give and take. High OC but maybe meh ICM.

 

I think il just keep it at "Asrock's Extreme Profile" - XMP1-8800mhz G2 - D2D-30 - NGU-30 - RING-38 that's it not even a small bump in P and E cores no crashes when playing games as of yet...but once i bump RING v and ratio to 40 + NGU volt it crashes incl D2D-32 and NGU-32 hence it was better to set it at 30/30.

 

This whole ordeal caused a lot of STRESS been busy trying to apply these settings testing as suggested. And NOT enjoying my new build at all.....

Before this i tested of course my system on extreme profile stock with:

 

Memtest86 twice for xmp1-8800mhz G4 and at 8800mhz G2 full pass no errors around 3 hours per test.

Prime95: tested "IMC stress + RAM stress" for 1 hour no errors (advised 30 min should be plenty to test for it i did 1 hour anyway)

OCCT: OCCT large dataset, Extreme Preset full 1 hour no errors.

Heaven benchmark: no errors on gpu.

3Dmark multiple benchmarks: no errors.

Cinebench23: at extreme profile and d2d-30, ngu-30, ring-38 no errors and even with a small bump in Pcore 5.5ghz and Ecore 4.9ghz no crash but once i go higher (ngu-32, d2d-32, ring-40 is still pass but not in games...(Elden Ring)

 

The crashes i had are related to the voltage changes they gave me on:

 

Asrock's Extreme profile power plan
XMP 1 profile= 8800mhz - G2
PL1-300w
PL2-318w
D2D = 32
NGU = 32
Ring ratio = 40
NGU voltage override = 0.900v
Ring voltage override = 1.200v

 

Then they said increase VNNAON voltage it all confused me since extreme profile already has a 0.850v they said change to 0.850v...? I understand if it was Intel default = 0.770v. Same for the RING cpu cache voltage that already is set at 1.250v they tell me to change to 1.200v i adressed my concerns or better yet why because im very sure they know about these weird variations but no explanations given...It's what it is maybe a newbie has no place there yet we all had to START somewhere. In the end im responsible i agree but i would have liked some more guidance. As i would have done with people asking for water cooling advise as i do plenty of times on that forum.
 

[Sniper101]

6 hours ago, Tetras said:

Really? Retail boxed CPUs should have a 3 year warranty and tray CPUs at least 1 year? In any case, you'd need to run your CPU at stock settings and I can't see any evidence so far that your CPU is broken? Instability when OCed is normal, until you find stable settings.

 

Yeah, pretty much. To be honest, most overclockers nowadays are doing it for fun, just for benchmarks, or for social media. They're really only interested in stability in one or two apps that they use for testing and scores, not for a 24/7 build.

 

Overclocking for regular use is pretty much dead, because modern CPUs are pushed very hard "out of the box". If you want a stable system for gaming, I'd look into Intel's "200S boost" which is supposed to be announced today and I believe is covered by the warranty.

 

Better yet, I'd just put everything back to stock and enjoy your games.

I agree with most you said.

But the 285k can perform better Intel was just to affraid to put more agressive tuning but can be done easily with just a couple of tweaks as many say increase the D2D and NGU + RING ratio and a mild bump in P and Ecores. This maybe due to Raptor Lake degrading issue Intel went a bit overboard to TONE down this potential beast of a cpu....That's what i wanted just a latency around 70 to 73ns and i would be happy and a mild bump in D2D, NGU and RING ratio and a bump in P and E core nothing major just a simple OC in most overclockers mind set.

 

I hope that Intel will release a BIOS update with the "IPO" standard that is already in place in the Chinese market for OEM pc's this IPO standard has increased all the above as mentioned. In the meantime il just do what you suggested (already did btw) just "stock" extreme profile setting - xmp1-8800mhz g2, and a small bump in D2D-30, NGU-30, RING = stock at 38 nothing else. This gave me no issues as of yet with a latency of around 77ns - 78ns. Il look for info on this "200S boost" thx.

[Tetras]

3 minutes ago, Sniper101 said:

Il look for info on this "200S boost" thx.

There's a video here you might like, I expect other channels will make one too (if they haven't already).

 

I haven't watched it yet, but I usually find his videos helpful.

 

[Sniper101]

2 hours ago, Tetras said:

There's a video here you might like, I expect other channels will make one too (if they haven't already).

 

I haven't watched it yet, but I usually find his videos helpful.

 

Thanks gonna watch it

[Sniper101]

I watched it its a nice path to take however i have on concern:

 

I have CUDIMM kit G.Skill 8800mhz 1.45v so i wonder if it will work on my RAM kit probably it will downclock to 8000mhz and at 1.4v correct? Or it simply won't work curious to know if it work that would be great for me no more fiddling with settings and voltages and get much lower latency. I would gladly sacrifice that 800mhz less for a performance boost.

[Tetras]

8 hours ago, Sniper101 said:

I have CUDIMM kit G.Skill 8800mhz 1.45v so i wonder if it will work on my RAM kit probably it will downclock to 8000mhz and at 1.4v correct? Or it simply won't work curious to know if it work that would be great for me no more fiddling with settings and voltages and get much lower latency. I would gladly sacrifice that 800mhz less for a performance boost.

I'm not sure I'm afraid, the video didn't really go into enough detail. From what I can gather, they're just guaranteeing that you can use the higher speed with a warranty, so maybe that's only one part of the boost and you can keep your existing memory settings?

[Sniper101]

6 hours ago, Tetras said:

I'm not sure I'm afraid, the video didn't really go into enough detail. From what I can gather, they're just guaranteeing that you can use the higher speed with a warranty, so maybe that's only one part of the boost and you can keep your existing memory settings?

Max ram frequency it will go with "intel 200s boost" enabled = 8000mhz. But i have some one who tested it with his 8400mhz cudimm and reported to me "it does work it just downclock to 8000mhz. No clue about stability tho. But Intel allows you to tweak the ram timings if needed. Il try it out and report  here just for people having the same dilemma is i did ie prefer not to fiddle to much with OC and tweaking without a proper understanding.

[Sniper101]

Update:

 

Well......

 

No luck unfortunatly with enabling Intels 200s boost!

 

It does work if you enable XMP profile 1 = 6400mhz. Which gave me around 76ns

But when you enable XMP profile 2 which in my case = CUDIMM 8800mhz 1.45v it will boot twice then says it basically cant boot with the ram even tho it tried to put it at 8000mhz-4 (probably gear 4) so then it boots again into Windows but with a severe RAM frequency penalty 4600mhz....

 

I tried the following:

Enable Intels 200s Boost which gives you a sub menu:

XMP profile 1

XMP profile 2

NO XMP loaded

 

I tried them all....Really messed up many people with 285k do have higher then 8000mhz kits.

They should support up to 9000mhz and then automatically lower the frequency and tighter cas timings with a lower ram voltage.

Pretty dissapointed...

 

Unless i think you can tweak my RAM to 8000mhz and tighter timings as well as lower voltage from 1.45v to 1.4v or even lower but i guess this may or may not impact stability. You are allowed to tweak the RAM within Intels 200s Boost option. Thanks Intel for helping people with above 8000mhz kits!

Guess i need to do some digging unless people can guide me to make my RAM kit work with Intel's 200s boost at 8000mhz, tighter timings and lower voltage. Don't know how to do it unless some one has a Z890 and higher then 8000mhz kit to tell what needs to be done.

[thewelshbrummie]

10 hours ago, Tetras said:

Really? Retail boxed CPUs should have a 3 year warranty and tray CPUs at least 1 year? In any case, you'd need to run your CPU at stock settings and I can't see any evidence so far that your CPU is broken? Instability when OCed is normal, until you find stable settings.

That's not necessarily right, depending on what the OP actually means by RMA and more importantly where the OP is based. European law lets you return faulty electrical items within 30 days no questions asked, so long as you return everything that came in the box (and obviously the box itself). That includes if you've opened and used the contents.

 

After 30 days, the retailer has the right to offer a repair. Refusing that doesn't void the warranty but you will remain in a stalemate until such an offer is accepted by the purchaser, or the warranty expires. And the retailer has every right to say it's working, which for Intel CPUs would be defined as working within the spec as listed on Intel ARK.

 

Based on the tone of this thread, that's what I think the OP is getting at regarding RMA.

 

@Sniper101 CPU manufacturing isn't an exact science, hence the phrase "chip lottery"

On 4/21/2025 at 5:22 PM, Echothedolpin said:

every single chip is going to be slightly different and just taking someone else’s settings and copy pasting them and expecting similar results is only going frustrate you.

This. Chip binning is basically a test of a CPU to determining whether it can operate at a pre-determined spec as set by Intel. If it's fast enough and all cores are working, then it can be a 285K. If some cores are faulty but fusing those off gets it to work, then Intel could make it into a CPU that meets the spec of the 265K and will sell it as such. That's how chips are made, essentially everything is arbitrary but so long as it meets a specification that Intel have prescribed then they'll sell it with the appropriate model number.

 

You may well have one on the lower end of what is acceptable for a 285K that simply can't overclock very well. That's very true when you factor in that most modern (and especially Intel) CPUs are generally set to run far closer to the limits of the spec than in the past so overclocking will likely get you very little benefit. We're not in 2008 where you could just change the front side bus on an LGA775 board (doesn't exist on any post LGA115x sockets) and get a near-free 50% overclock as I did on the first CPU I purchased, an E2160, or taking the Q9650 I had from 3.0 to 3.6GHZ by again only changing the FSB and nothing else. And that was done while manually setting the RAM speeds to within the max supported on the box (in my case 1,600MHz DDR3).

 

That said, you're also attempting to combine a significant overclock on the CPU (that's already running at a much faster standard than CPUs of old) while also having a massive XMP enabled RAM overclock over the JEDEC standard of 4,800MHz at the same time.

• What matters is this: does the CPU run at stock settings without crashing? If so, it's within spec and attempting to RMA it as faulty would be attempted fraud.
• Depending on where you are you may be able to do a no questions asked return but that would have to be within 30 days of purchase and that depends on where you live and where the retailer you purchased it from is also located (cross-border RMAs will almost certainly be rejected). Since it's been over 2 weeks since you posted this I assume you've gone over that.
• Running 8,800MHz RAM that's on the QVL is still insanely fast - to the point that a CPU overclock may simply not work. Also remember that the QVL list may only be tested with XMP enabled & the CPU at stock, so you're in unchartered territory. I've found some 8,800MHz DIMMS that on the spec sheet have to be reduced to 8,100MHz when running 4 sticks vs 2 - doesn't exactly apply since you have an ITX board that will only have 2 DIMM slots but the fact that some DDR5 boards will reduce the speed if you have 4 DIMMS installed is telling that you're on bleeding edge of speed supported.
• Also, anything over the JEDEC is essentially overclocking. If I take my Z490 based computer the JEDEC speed limit is 2,933MHz. I'm running at 3,600MHz with zero problems but for DDR4 that's still not bleeding edge. And if it didn't work I'd still only have Asus to fall back on for support, Intel would tell me where to go as I'm running out of spec. Considering that the JEDEC Z890 RAM speed is set to 4,800Mhz you're attempting to run at nearly double that speed.
• You've already voided the warranty buy purchasing the contact frame for your motherboard so suggesting a platform swap to AMD isn't a good idea.

You seem to be dabbling with settings that you don't understand. That's not a great place to go, especially when memory speed doesn't make much difference in most applications.

 

On 4/22/2025 at 2:53 PM, Sniper101 said:

But the 285k can perform better Intel was just to affraid to put more agressive tuning but can be done easily with just a couple of tweaks as many say increase the D2D and NGU + RING ratio and a mild bump in P and Ecores.

Intel have been extremely aggressive with tuning to compete with AMD, that's part of the reason why they've been having issues. And remember you're asking for a "mild bump" in core clocks whilst also running super fast memory speeds (even 6,400MHz is pretty fast and faster than necessary for AMD). Something has to give, I doubt that you can have both.
 

On 4/22/2025 at 2:44 PM, Sniper101 said:

Yeah....i kept asking for clarification what these results mean. But they did not reply yet however they do comment after my posts completely ignoring my plee for help and thats been 2 days now....i would say enough time to respond.

I assume you're talking about replies here. That's because you're talking about extremely technical changes to the BIOS that most gamers wouldn't touch. I certainly haven't done that as I want stability over speed that I won't use, I enabled multicore enhancement and left it even though I could push my 10700K further if I wanted. Basically the advice you've had is the way to go - either go back to this "veteran overclocker" you keep mentioning for more assistance or reduce some of your settings and enjoy your computer.

 

On 4/21/2025 at 6:43 PM, Sniper101 said:

I did not just copy some ones settings.

 

This was given to me ie what to change according to my specs and the guy told me what to try first. He is well known there as a veteran overclocker.

 

That is the textbook definition of copying someone's settings. As has already been said, you're best off reducing overclocks or leave the CPU at stock (multicore enhancement enabled at most) and enjoy your hardware.