Did I make a mistake getting 9700X over 9800X3D or 7800X3D? Primarily gaming in 3440x1440 and 4K.

[AnimeMangaGamer]

I decided initially on the 9700X because of their 9800X3D video below:

From this video I saw how well the 9700X was performing even though these are pretty much 1080p benchmarks. That and I got my 9700X on sale for $275 total.

 

I recently upgraded from 13900k then 14900KF and now Ryzen 7 9700X (I think it's an upgrade because I no longer experience random BSOD crashing due to intel's 13th and 14th gen stability and degrading issues)

Rest of the specs are:
B650E-F Mobo
32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000 CL36

RTX 4090

990 Pro NVMe

 

CPU and GPU is custom liquid cooled with 2x 360mm radiators and a d5 pump.

Right now I'm playing Assassin's Creed Shadows on both my QD-OLED 34" and 4K OLED 55" depending on when I play on my desk with monitor or lay down on bed with the tv.

Graphic settings at max ultra with raytracing, DLSS set to quality, frame gen off.
I get 50-65 fps avg on 4K and 65-75 fps avg on 3440x1440
I forgot what my 1% lows are for both but if the data is needed I'll come back and report it after going back in game for both resolutions.
What I do notice is some minor lag or stuttering when I play 4k on my TV I would assume is 1% lows. I'm not sure but I don't think I notice the same thing on my 34" monitor

I'm planning on getting 5090 soon once it becomes normal. I never play on 1080p resolution, will I realistically benefit from 9800X3D or even the 7800X3D in terms of fps perfromance on 1440p or 4K or maybe improvement on 1% fps lows?

9800X3D total retail is $495

7800X3D total retail is $404

My return window for 9700X already closed and I don't know how much I could sell it for but if X3D chips are worth it I'll consider selling it for a loss. So if I manage to sell it for around $200 or $250 if I'm lucky I would have to shell out another $250-300 for 9800X3D or $150-200 for 7800X3D. What do you guys think I should do? Thanks in advance for any advice and suggestions.

[Poinkachu]

25 minutes ago, AnimeMangaGamer said:

9800X3D total retail is $495

7800X3D total retail is $404

My return window for 9700X already closed and I don't know how much I could sell it for but if X3D chips are worth it I'll consider selling it for a loss. So if I manage to sell it for around $200 or $250 if I'm lucky I would have to shell out another $250-300 for 9800X3D or $150-200 for 7800X3D. What do you guys think I should do? Thanks in advance for any advice and suggestions.

 

Based on that review, for 4k with a 5090, even in a CPU heavy games the difference is single digit fps, even when compared to 5800x3D

Whether or not you feel that amount of fps increase worth the price difference, idk, your money afterall.

[Dedayog]

44 minutes ago, AnimeMangaGamer said:

I decided initially on the 9700X because of their 9800X3D video below:

From this video I saw how well the 9700X was performing even though these are pretty much 1080p benchmarks. That and I got my 9700X on sale for $275 total.

 

I recently upgraded from 13900k then 14900KF and now Ryzen 7 9700X (I think it's an upgrade because I no longer experience random BSOD crashing due to intel's 13th and 14th gen stability and degrading issues)

Rest of the specs are:
B650E-F Mobo
32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000 CL36

RTX 4090

990 Pro NVMe

 

CPU and GPU is custom liquid cooled with 2x 360mm radiators and a d5 pump.

Right now I'm playing Assassin's Creed Shadows on both my QD-OLED 34" and 4K OLED 55" depending on when I play on my desk with monitor or lay down on bed with the tv.

Graphic settings at max ultra with raytracing, DLSS set to quality, frame gen off.
I get 50-65 fps avg on 4K and 65-75 fps avg on 3440x1440
I forgot what my 1% lows are for both but if the data is needed I'll come back and report it after going back in game for both resolutions.
What I do notice is some minor lag or stuttering when I play 4k on my TV I would assume is 1% lows. I'm not sure but I don't think I notice the same thing on my 34" monitor

I'm planning on getting 5090 soon once it becomes normal. I never play on 1080p resolution, will I realistically benefit from 9800X3D or even the 7800X3D in terms of fps perfromance on 1440p or 4K or maybe improvement on 1% fps lows?

9800X3D total retail is $495

7800X3D total retail is $404

My return window for 9700X already closed and I don't know how much I could sell it for but if X3D chips are worth it I'll consider selling it for a loss. So if I manage to sell it for around $200 or $250 if I'm lucky I would have to shell out another $250-300 for 9800X3D or $150-200 for 7800X3D. What do you guys think I should do? Thanks in advance for any advice and suggestions.

I went from a 7700X to a 7800X3D for $100.  Namely I sold my 7700X for $200 and bought the 7800X3D for $299 at Microcenter.  I saw a nice increase in lows as well as highs, as I play MMO's mostly and congested areas are much smoother now.

 

9700X to 9800X3D will be an even larger boost since you can OC the 9800X3D.  Ask @Hinjima.  He'd love to tell you

 

Personally, I would have RMA'd the 14900K and kept it.  It's a stout ass CPU and only beaten by the X3D chips.  If RMA was not an option, sorry.

 

So don't sweat things, as while the X3D chips are amazing, the 9700X when PBO/CO is a very strong gaming CPU in its own right.

 

If you want great gaming, keep it. If you are going to have buyer's remorse for not getting the best... bite the bullet and get the 9800X3D.  What's a couple hundred more bucks?

 

It's not like you aren't used to spending a shitload of money, you had high end Intel chips after all

 

 

 

 

[AnimeMangaGamer]

53 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

 

Based on that review, for 4k with a 5090, even in a CPU heavy games the difference is single digit fps, even when compared to 5800x3D

Whether or not you feel that amount of fps increase worth the price difference, idk, your money afterall.

Oh I didn't even saw this video yet, thank you for linking. Even though they only benched 7700X I think that pretty much is like a 9700X right? Damn now I'm really getting conflicted because I also just saw this video below but Idk how valid or accurate it is:
 

I feel like I should trust the HW Unboxed video more but it is  asatire/april 1st joke video at the same time.

 

[AnimeMangaGamer]

34 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

I went from a 7700X to a 7800X3D for $100.  Namely I sold my 7700X for $200 and bought the 7800X3D for $299 at Microcenter.  I saw a nice increase in lows as well as highs, as I play MMO's mostly and congested areas are much smoother now.

 

9700X to 9800X3D will be an even larger boost since you can OC the 9800X3D.  Ask @Hinjima.  He'd love to tell you

 

Personally, I would have RMA'd the 14900K and kept it.  It's a stout ass CPU and only beaten by the X3D chips.  If RMA was not an option, sorry.

 

So don't sweat things, as while the X3D chips are amazing, the 9700X when PBO/CO is a very strong gaming CPU in its own right.

 

If you want great gaming, keep it. If you are going to have buyer's remorse for not getting the best... bite the bullet and get the 9800X3D.  What's a couple hundred more bucks?

 

It's not like you aren't used to spending a shitload of money, you had high end Intel chips after all

 

 

 

 

Oh for the the 14900KF, yes fortunately, Intel fully refunded me the chip that's why I managed to switch my platform back into AMD.

Yeah the 1% lows is quite tempting if that X3D cache really does improve it, I'm really contemplating it now, Do you think I should push for 9800X3D or save $100 and just get the same chip 7800X3D you have?

I know it may seem like I overspent on components but I'm trying not to right now. After I got my Intel refund for 14900KF I used only that total refund for getting both the 9700X and motherboard. I would normally get an ASUS Hero board but not this time I settled with a Strix board I was even considering the TUF boards.

Now I have a overpriced paperweight, cpu-less, LGA1700 Z690 Hero board just sitting here trying to sell it for $250 when I bought it for $500. Not the best decision I've made.

Thanks for the response!

[Dedayog]

21 minutes ago, AnimeMangaGamer said:

Oh for the the 14900KF, yes fortunately, Intel fully refunded me the chip that's why I managed to switch my platform back into AMD.

Yeah the 1% lows is quite tempting if that X3D cache really does improve it, I'm really contemplating it now, Do you think I should push for 9800X3D or save $100 and just get the same chip 7800X3D you have?

I know it may seem like I overspent on components but I'm trying not to right now. After I got my Intel refund for 14900KF I used only that total refund for getting both the 9700X and motherboard. I would normally get an ASUS Hero board but not this time I settled with a Strix board I was even considering the TUF boards.

Now I have a overpriced paperweight, cpu-less, LGA1700 Z690 Hero board just sitting here trying to sell it for $250 when I bought it for $500. Not the best decision I've made.

Thanks for the response!

In the grand scheme, $100 more over the complete build price isn't much.  Like asking if you spring for the $3000 Bowers & Wilkins stereo in the $65,000 car.  Is $3k that much when you're already near $70k?

 

Honestly, I would go 9800X3D.  Simply because I see how well the 7800X3D does and I want not only the evolution of my chip, but also to OC it.  That excites me.

 

You have a 4090, I would definitely get the 9800X3D to give that GPU every single frame you can.  As noted, you save on the motherboard, so spend on the actual performance part

 

 

[Eigenvektor]

2 hours ago, Poinkachu said:

Based on that review, for 4k with a 5090, even in a CPU heavy games the difference is single digit fps, even when compared to 5800x3D

Whether or not you feel that amount of fps increase worth the price difference, idk, your money afterall.

You are aware that this video is an April Fool's Day joke?

 

He's poking fun at people who say there's no difference CPU's should be tested at 4K resolution. Yes, there is no difference in 4K right now, but the X3D is going to age better, meaning there will be a bigger difference in the future and/or in CPU heavy titles.

[xg32]

2 hours ago, AnimeMangaGamer said:

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considering how much a 4090 is worth in the current market, yes it was a mistake.

 

Not gonna lie to your face and say it wasn't, but was it a big one? no.

 

There's some small concerns with the 9800x3d dying and the 10800x3d is rumored to be 12core.

 

I'm still juggling the pros and cons mentally, almost jumped on a 7800x3d for 300usd the other day.

[Leegier]

3 hours ago, AnimeMangaGamer said:

I decided initially on the 9700X because of their 9800X3D video below:

From this video I saw how well the 9700X was performing even though these are pretty much 1080p benchmarks. That and I got my 9700X on sale for $275 total.

 

I recently upgraded from 13900k then 14900KF and now Ryzen 7 9700X (I think it's an upgrade because I no longer experience random BSOD crashing due to intel's 13th and 14th gen stability and degrading issues)

Rest of the specs are:
B650E-F Mobo
32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000 CL36

RTX 4090

990 Pro NVMe

 

CPU and GPU is custom liquid cooled with 2x 360mm radiators and a d5 pump.

Right now I'm playing Assassin's Creed Shadows on both my QD-OLED 34" and 4K OLED 55" depending on when I play on my desk with monitor or lay down on bed with the tv.

Graphic settings at max ultra with raytracing, DLSS set to quality, frame gen off.
I get 50-65 fps avg on 4K and 65-75 fps avg on 3440x1440
I forgot what my 1% lows are for both but if the data is needed I'll come back and report it after going back in game for both resolutions.
What I do notice is some minor lag or stuttering when I play 4k on my TV I would assume is 1% lows. I'm not sure but I don't think I notice the same thing on my 34" monitor

I'm planning on getting 5090 soon once it becomes normal. I never play on 1080p resolution, will I realistically benefit from 9800X3D or even the 7800X3D in terms of fps perfromance on 1440p or 4K or maybe improvement on 1% fps lows?

9800X3D total retail is $495

7800X3D total retail is $404

My return window for 9700X already closed and I don't know how much I could sell it for but if X3D chips are worth it I'll consider selling it for a loss. So if I manage to sell it for around $200 or $250 if I'm lucky I would have to shell out another $250-300 for 9800X3D or $150-200 for 7800X3D. What do you guys think I should do? Thanks in advance for any advice and suggestions.

Should u desire to sell I’m interested and will pay shipping cost at currently using ryzen 1600……. Sucks but, for purchase price of 200$ I’ll buy

[Leegier]

Thanks

[AnimeMangaGamer]

55 minutes ago, xg32 said:

considering how much a 4090 is worth in the current market, yes it was a mistake.

 

Not gonna lie to your face and say it wasn't, but was it a big one? no.

 

There's some small concerns with the 9800x3d dying and the 10800x3d is rumored to be 12core.

 

I'm still juggling the pros and cons mentally, almost jumped on a 7800x3d for 300usd the other day.

Oh yeah, I've been reading things about that, is it still an ongoing issue or is it being resolved by AMD already? I'm not sure exactly what's going on and I'm gonna try to research on it a bit. But that said, the 7800x3d is completely unaffected by the 9800x3d problems is it? I'm actually considering the 7800x3d to save a $100.
 

Also I didn't even know about 10800x3d is that confirmed coming soon? 

[AnimeMangaGamer]

2 minutes ago, Leegier said:

Should u desire to sell I’m interested and will pay shipping cost at currently using ryzen 1600……. Sucks but, for purchase price of 200$ I’ll buy

Oh thank you for the offer, I'm still considering my options. I'll let you know if I do decide to sell it. 

[podkall]

4 hours ago, AnimeMangaGamer said:

What I do notice is some minor lag or stuttering when I play 4k on my TV I would assume is 1% lows. I'm not sure but I don't think I notice the same thing on my 34" monitor

How does the lag look like?

 

4 hours ago, AnimeMangaGamer said:

Rest of the specs are:
B650E-F Mobo
32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000 CL36

RTX 4090

990 Pro NVMe

How did you set up the PC?

[AnimeMangaGamer]

1 hour ago, podkall said:

How does the lag look like?

It's hard to explain but it's kinda like a minor hitching I assume this is when the 1% lows dips.

 

1 hour ago, podkall said:

How did you set up the PC?

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you mean? You want to know how I built the PC? Well honestly, Idk how to answer that because I've been upgrading it over several years, swapping parts and that includes the chassis. I have built several dozen of PCs for family, relatives, friends over the years but as for my personal gaming rig I haven't really gone and built a new one completely from scratch. The last thing I did was switch to a B650E-F Motherboard + Ryzen 7 9700X last month.

[podkall]

35 minutes ago, AnimeMangaGamer said:

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you mean? You want to know how I built the PC? Well honestly, Idk how to answer that because I've been upgrading it over several years, swapping parts and that includes the chassis. I have built several dozen of PCs for family, relatives, friends over the years but as for my personal gaming rig I haven't really gone and built a new one completely from scratch. The last thing I did was switch to a B650E-F Motherboard + Ryzen 7 9700X last month.

Did you re-install/fresh windows after going AM5?

[AnimeMangaGamer]

1 hour ago, podkall said:

Did you re-install/fresh windows after going AM5?

Yes, I did. I always do every time I swap a cpu, motherbaord and more obviously the primary C: storage.

[podkall]

6 minutes ago, AnimeMangaGamer said:

Yes, I did. I always do every time I swap a cpu, motherbaord and more obviously the primary C: storage.

So you got latest drivers, BIOS, and Chipset drivers?

[AnimeMangaGamer]

6 hours ago, podkall said:

So you got latest drivers, BIOS, and Chipset drivers?

Yes everything is updated. 

[AnimeMangaGamer]

On 4/20/2025 at 7:56 PM, Dedayog said:

I went from a 7700X to a 7800X3D for $100.  Namely I sold my 7700X for $200 and bought the 7800X3D for $299 at Microcenter.  I saw a nice increase in lows as well as highs, as I play MMO's mostly and congested areas are much smoother now.

 

9700X to 9800X3D will be an even larger boost since you can OC the 9800X3D.  Ask @Hinjima.  He'd love to tell you

 

Personally, I would have RMA'd the 14900K and kept it.  It's a stout ass CPU and only beaten by the X3D chips.  If RMA was not an option, sorry.

 

So don't sweat things, as while the X3D chips are amazing, the 9700X when PBO/CO is a very strong gaming CPU in its own right.

 

If you want great gaming, keep it. If you are going to have buyer's remorse for not getting the best... bite the bullet and get the 9800X3D.  What's a couple hundred more bucks?

 

It's not like you aren't used to spending a shitload of money, you had high end Intel chips after all

 

 

 

 

Sorry for bumping this thread,

I think I'm leaning towards getting the 7800X3D instead of 9800X3D just because I think it's just way too expensive at $480+tax if they offer the pretty much the same amount of L3 Cache but at the sacrifice of a lil lower base/boost clock speeds? Meanwhile I can get a new 7800X3D for $400 or less. Since my source (Central Computers) for the $495 9800X3d is gone and now it's more like $520 because it's $495 after taxes at Micro Center but it's like 100 miles away so there's gas expense.

For everyone else's opinion would the 9800X3D be worth $120 more over $7800X3D if paired with an RTX 4090 and future 5090? Gaming mostly at 3440x1440 primarily and 3840x2160.

[AnimeMangaGamer]

On 4/20/2025 at 8:46 PM, Dedayog said:

In the grand scheme, $100 more over the complete build price isn't much.  Like asking if you spring for the $3000 Bowers & Wilkins stereo in the $65,000 car.  Is $3k that much when you're already near $70k?

 

Honestly, I would go 9800X3D.  Simply because I see how well the 7800X3D does and I want not only the evolution of my chip, but also to OC it.  That excites me.

 

You have a 4090, I would definitely get the 9800X3D to give that GPU every single frame you can.  As noted, you save on the motherboard, so spend on the actual performance part

 

 

Oh crap I totally missed this post, yeah I want to get 9800X3D but with my current budget it's gonna be a real tight squeeze to get it.. The 9700X I have apparently can be sold at below $300 if I'm lucky since it's retailing for $310-330 new? So I managed to get that much then maybe I can shell out enough for 7800X3D, but probably not enough to 9800X3D. 

Would 7800X3D be a good enough upgrade from 9700X in my case?

[Dedayog]

23 minutes ago, AnimeMangaGamer said:

Sorry for bumping this thread,

I think I'm leaning towards getting the 7800X3D instead of 9800X3D just because I think it's just way too expensive at $480+tax if they offer the same L3 Cache at the sacrifice of lower base/boost clock speeds? Meanwhile I can get a new 7800X3D for $400 or less. Since my source (Central Computers) for the $495 9800X3d is gone and now it's more like $520 because it's $495 after taxes at Micro Center but it's like 100 miles away so there's gas expense.

For everyone else's opinion would the 9800X3D be worth $120 more over $7800X3D if paired with an RTX 4090 and future 5090? Gaming mostly at 3440x1440 primarily and 3840x2160.

If you're going $2000+ gpus, the $120 uplift is worth it.  Si ce you can OC the 9800x3d.

 

Talking about  $3000 GPU, anything else you buy can't even be looked at with a value eye

 

You've already stated you're okay with spending stupid money.

[AnimeMangaGamer]

11 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

If you're going $2000+ gpus, the $120 uplift is worth it.  Si ce you can OC the 9800x3d.

 

Talking about  $3000 GPU, anything else you buy can't even be looked at with a value eye

 

You've already stated you're okay with spending stupid money.

I know it's silly, Idk I just have this mindset that GPU budget is separate from CPU and everything else because gaming always has been gpu intensive welp for the games I play anyways. It's just that at the moment I don't have that stupid amount of money to get 5090. 5080s and below seem to be improving in stock and price already but doesn't seem the same for 5090 so I'm probably gonna wait another 4-6 months before I even get that, maybe I'll sell my 4090 now and get a good price so that it can offset that 5090 cost later. But I Idk I feel like I'm experiencing buyers remorse with the 9700X and really felt like I got the wrong chip.

I guess you're right, if 9800X3D is the best gaming chip at the moment it would be stupid to not get it. I just thought the 7800X3D would be okay enough since I don't really play CPU intensive games. But if these X3D chips help higher end cards perform better Idk because of bottleneck with everything else that's not an X3D chip then I guess I'll go with that.

 

*EDIT*

 

11 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

If you're going $2000+ gpus, the $120 uplift is worth it.  Si ce you can OC the 9800x3d.

I missed that, is the 7800X3D non-overclockable?

[AnimeMangaGamer]

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[Dedayog]

2 hours ago, AnimeMangaGamer said:

I know it's silly, Idk I just have this mindset that GPU budget is separate from CPU and everything else because gaming always has been gpu intensive welp for the games I play anyways. It's just that at the moment I don't have that stupid amount of money to get 5090. 5080s and below seem to be improving in stock and price already but doesn't seem the same for 5090 so I'm probably gonna wait another 4-6 months before I even get that, maybe I'll sell my 4090 now and get a good price so that it can offset that 5090 cost later. But I Idk I feel like I'm experiencing buyers remorse with the 9700X and really felt like I got the wrong chip.

I guess you're right, if 9800X3D is the best gaming chip at the moment it would be stupid to not get it. I just thought the 7800X3D would be okay enough since I don't really play CPU intensive games. But if these X3D chips help higher end cards perform better Idk because of bottleneck with everything else that's not an X3D chip then I guess I'll go with that.

 

*EDIT*

 

I missed that, is the 7800X3D non-overclockable?

No, the 7800X3D is locked, as the X3D cache is on top of the chips and restricts heat transfer to the cooler.  They don't want it getting too hot, so they limit chip frequency.

 

My issue with the 90 series is that it's getting stupid expensive and we allow it.  If your 2024 car was $100k and then the 2025 version came out with 15% more horsepower... for $150k... you'd buy it?

 

If so, I have a few bridges to sell you as well :)'

 

 

[Mark Kaine]

My r5 3600 gets like 100 points more than my r7 5800x3d  in Superposition (graphics benchmark)... (just saying).