I need help telling my friend he is being unreasonable

[Hamdotca]

Budget (including currency): $7000 CAD Please help me lower this lol

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming and maybe Streaming

Other details: 1440p 144hz(main monitor) 1080p 60hz (second) ((He has these already))

 

My Friend wants to build his First PC after being a console gamer on PS4 and 5 For for the last like decade, he wants to play basically everything (AAA games, Indie, EVERYTHING) on max settings and giving up nothing.

He is absolutely set on playing at high refresh rate (144hz). He is a stuck on "future proofing" his build wanting it to last forever, he has decided that they way to do this is buy high-mid range parts and try to outlast everything.

 

All pricing is CAD and found by him on places like Canada Computers and best buy NOT INCLUDING TAX

 

CPU - AMMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D = $690

CPU Cooler - ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO w/ 360mm Rad = $410

GPU - XFX Mercury AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT = $1150

RAM - G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64GB (2x32GB) = $325

MOBO - MSI MPG X870E Carbon WIFI Motherboard = $750

PSU - LIAN LI Edge Series EG1000 Black = $265

CASE - NZXT H6 Flow (non RBG) = $150

STORAGE - Samsung 990 EVO 1TB SSD = $140

**EDIT** Samsung 990 PRO 4TB = $500

OS - Windows 11 = $180

 

Extras:

Fans - LIAN LI Uni Fan SL infinity 120 RGB Case Fan 3 PK = $140x2

Fans - LIAN LI Uni Fan SL infinity 120 RGB Case Fan = $40

Fans -  LIAN LI Uni Fan SL infinity 120 RGB Case Fan 140 = $55x2 

Accessories - LIAN LI Strimer Plus V2 12VHPWR 3x 8-Pin Female to 12+4-Pin Male = $85

 

Build Total: is ~$6000 closer to $7000w/ tax

I need help to convince him that this build is unreasonable and he could have similar performance spending much less on the build, anything helps, PLEASE lol

 

Thanks!

 

Edited April 19 by Hamdotca

[johnt]

It’s not your money. If you’ve already told him it’s unreasonable, then your job is done. Don’t ruin your friendship. 
 

Although, I would get more than a 1 TB drive and at least the pro model. $700+ on a motherboard but a budget ssd lol

[Hamdotca]

1 minute ago, johnt said:

It’s not your money. If you’ve already told him it’s unreasonable, then your job is done. Don’t ruin your friendship. 
 

Although, I would get more than a 1 TB drive and at least the pro model. $700+ on a motherboard but a budget ssd lol

So true, I just don't want to see him spend money on stuff he doesn't really need

 

The SSD is the one thing that I was like "only 1TB??"

[Poinkachu]

22 minutes ago, Hamdotca said:

1440p 144hz

 

he wants to play basically everything (AAA games, Indie, EVERYTHING) on max settings and giving up nothing.

He is absolutely set on playing at high refresh rate (144hz).

"future proofing"

 

GPU - XFX Mercury AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT = $1150

Uh....

But yeah.....
You already advised him, if he doesn't accept, let him do what he wants with his money.

 

Not worth to risk some of your bonds with him over something like this anyway.

Plus... sometimes one needs to feel the pain before they can grow/do better .

 

If he goes by your advice not wholeheartedly, then feel it lackluster later, in the deepest of his mind he might blame ya.

 

10 minutes ago, Hamdotca said:

The SSD is the one thing that I was like "only 1TB??"

SSD wise, at worst he can just buy another one later and add that to the system.

Especially if he's the type that prefers to separate the OS and everything else into separate disk / partition.

And like I said, sometimes one needs to feel the pain before they can grow/do better xD

[kitnoman]

As a friend, the main reason you should convince him is if he would be spending money that's not readily available for him. Also give me a build that's similarly spec at a lower price or better spec at the same price. Like using 9700x, a cheaper board, aio, ram psu and fans to get a better gpu, that will overall allow him to get his target of 144hz 1440p. Also advice him to get a decent monitor, as at that budget, half of having the "best experience" is actually related to the quality of your monitor. By the end of it, it's basically what output what the cpu/gpu does. Also tell him, that when it comes to RGB, at the very least, use same brands, so it won't conflict with each rgb software. Or he needs to actually tinker longer to set them up.

[Hamdotca]

6 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

If he goes by your advice, then feel it lackluster later, in the deepest of his mind he might blame ya.

This is a great point, It is his choice at the end of the day, I just don't want him to feel the pain of money leaving his wallet lol

 

6 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

SSD wise, at worst he can just buy another one later and add that to the system.

Especially if he's the type that prefers to separate the OS and everything else into separate disk / partition.

Yeah we talked about adding more, definitely not the tinker type, like I said it's his First ever build AND First desktop PC

[Why_Me]

28 minutes ago, Hamdotca said:

Budget (including currency): $7000 CAD Please help me lower this lol

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming and maybe Streaming

Other details: 1440p 144hz(main monitor) 1080p 60hz (second) ((He has these already))

 

My Friend wants to build his First PC after being a console gamer on PS4 and 5 For for the last like decade, he wants to play basically everything (AAA games, Indie, EVERYTHING) on max settings and giving up nothing.

He is absolutely set on playing at high refresh rate (144hz). He is a stuck on "future proofing" his build wanting it to last forever, he has decided that they way to do this is buy high-mid range parts and try to outlast everything.

 

All pricing is CAD and found by him on places like Canada Computers and best buy NOT INCLUDING TAX

 

CPU - AMMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D = $690

CPU Cooler - ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO w/ 360mm Rad = $410

GPU - XFX Mercury AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT = $1150

RAM - G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64GB (2x32GB) = $325

MOBO - MSI MPG X870E Carbon WIFI Motherboard = $750

PSU - LIAN LI Edge Series EG1000 Black = $265

CASE - NZXT H6 Flow (non RBG) = $150

STORAGE - Samsung 990 EVO 1TB SSD = $140

OS - Windows 11 = $180

 

Extras:

Fans - LIAN LI Uni Fan SL infinity 120 RGB Case Fan 3 PK = $140x2

Fans - LIAN LI Uni Fan SL infinity 120 RGB Case Fan = $40

Fans -  LIAN LI Uni Fan SL infinity 120 RGB Case Fan 140 = $55x2 

Accessories - LIAN LI Strimer Plus V2 12VHPWR 3x 8-Pin Female to 12+4-Pin Male = $85

 

Build Total: is ~$6000 closer to $7000w/ tax

I need help to convince him that this build is unreasonable and he could have similar performance spending much less on the build, anything helps, PLEASE lol

 

Thanks!

 

This is one of the worst builds I've seen in awhile. A complete waste of money.

[Hamdotca]

7 minutes ago, kitnoman said:

As a friend, the main reason you should convince him is if he would be spending money that's not readily available for him. Also give me a build that's similarly spec at a lower price or better spec at the same price. Like using 9700x, a cheaper board, aio, ram psu and fans to get a better gpu, that will overall allow him to get his target of 144hz 1440p. Also advice him to get a decent monitor, as at that budget, half of having the "best experience" is actually related to the quality of your monitor. By the end of it, it's basically what output what the cpu/gpu does. Also tell him, that when it comes to RGB, at the very least, use same brands, so it won't conflict with each rgb software. Or he needs to actually tinker longer to set them up.

The problem with the "budget" is it really isn't one, it's just how much all the parts he picked cost so it's tough to make budget calls when he doesn't really have one. Just wants to leave absolutely nothing behind, and I don't want him to spend more than he needs too.

 

RGB is a great shout, appreciate that!

[ntl0se]

I'd just let him choose the parts give him suggestions and if he doesn't want them or ask for them for that matter then just build what he has in mind and let him be the person that chose wrong you gave him options on what you think he wants so just build it how he wants and let him figure out himself nothing more.

[-rascal-]

How is this build $6000?!

I've been planning to switch over back to AMD with the 9800X3D, and CPU + RAM + Mobo = $1400.

Maybe ~$150 for a new CPU waterblock. Where is the extra $4000 coming from?

 

$750 motherboard is just wild, with ONE NVMe SSD.

 

Why is it just a 1TB SSD?

I'd go at least 2TB these days...with games can hog up ~100GB each.

 

Which DDR5 G.Skill memory kit is that?

The 64GB (32GB X2) G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB CL30  kit is $290.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/3c4Zxr/gskill-trident-z5-rgb-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3040g32gx2-tz5rw

 

Arctic Freezer III Pro 360 RGB is $230.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Xh9nTW/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-pro-a-rgb-360-77-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00184a

 

 

 

[Hamdotca]

2 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

Why is it just a 1TB SSD?

I'd go at least 2TB these days...with games can hog up ~100GB each.

This is my bad, talked to him a bit and he has a second 990 Pro 4Tb I'm gonna edit the post

 

3 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

Which DDR5 G.Skill memory kit is that?

The 64GB (32GB X2) G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB CL30  kit is $290.

This is the prices he gave me from his build list I'm not sure

 

[Why_Me]

If you stream you do it with an Nvidia card.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($689.00 @ Newegg Canada) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool LS720 SE 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($144.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Motherboard: *MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($459.99 @ Memory Express) 
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($299.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: *Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($264.95 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: *Asus PRIME OC GeForce RTX 5080 16 GB Video Card  ($1739.99 @ Best Buy Canada) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($193.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  ($155.96 @ shopRBC) 
Total: $4098.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-04-19 01:18 EDT-0400

 

 

[Hamdotca]

1 minute ago, Why_Me said:

If you stream you do it with an Nvidia card.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($689.00 @ Newegg Canada) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool LS720 SE 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($144.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Motherboard: *MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($459.99 @ Memory Express) 
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($299.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: *Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($264.95 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: *Asus PRIME OC GeForce RTX 5080 16 GB Video Card  ($1739.99 @ Best Buy Canada) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($193.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  ($155.96 @ shopRBC) 
Total: $4098.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-04-19 01:18 EDT-0400

 

 

I really appreciate this, you have no idea

[Poinkachu]

21 minutes ago, Hamdotca said:

This is a great point, It is his choice at the end of the day, I just don't want him to feel the pain of money leaving his wallet lol

 

Yeah we talked about adding more, definitely not the tinker type, like I said it's his First ever build AND First desktop PC

 

15 minutes ago, Hamdotca said:

The problem with the "budget" is it really isn't one, it's just how much all the parts he picked cost so it's tough to make budget calls when he doesn't really have one. Just wants to leave absolutely nothing behind, and I don't want him to spend more than he needs too.

 

RGB is a great shout, appreciate that!

That kinda pain will be there regardless, especially with current market

As long the system is working well, and the expense doesn't put him in trouble.. whatever.

Me personally at your current position would just look at the list and see if there's parts that I know don't work well together, like choosing crazy high ram or 4 sticks , or adding some add-on stuffs that will requires high expertise (unless he really wants to put the effort into learning about it) etc.
 

Just tell him if it's future proofing, lower the motherboard, upgrade the gpu.

If he still dont wanna listen, I'd leave him be.

Although, be warned, judging by what you have said so far about budget, doing so is double-edged

there is a chance that by saying that he will keep the motherboard and upgrade the GPU.

 

The reason I said all this is partly because I assume your friend knows that you're atleast somewhat knowledgeable about PC building, at the very least, more than him.
If he didn't consult you or refused to listen to you, that means most likely he has his own goal that he wants to achieve, whatever it is.

[Eigenvektor]

50 minutes ago, Hamdotca said:

He is a stuck on "future proofing" his build wanting it to last forever, he has decided that they way to do this is buy high-mid range parts and try to outlast everything.

The best argument against future proofing are probably GPUs

 

When the Nvidia 20-series came out, it added features that previous generations simply couldn't do, namely RT and DLSS. More recently we got features, whether you like them or not, like DLSS FG and DLSS MFG that are exclusive to 40-series and 50-series respectively. Then you have the new transformer model for DLSS4 that only(?) runs on 50-series. Who knows which, potentially must-have, features future generations might add?

[Hamdotca]

2 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Although, be warned, judging by what you have said so far about budget, doing so is double-edged

there is a chance that by saying that he will keep the motherboard and upgrade the GPU.

 

The reason I said all this is partly because I assume your friend knows that you're atleast somewhat knowledgeable about PC building, at the very least, more than him.
If he didn't consult you or refused to listen to you, that means most likely he has his own goal that he wants to achieve, whatever it is.

He does listen, he's just a bit stubborn lol. we have a good relationship and he knows I'm just trying to look out for him

[Hamdotca]

2 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

The best argument against future proofing are probably GPUs

 

When the Nvidia 20-series came out, it added features that previous generations simply couldn't do, namely RT and DLSS. More recently we got features, whether you like them or not, like DLSS FG and DLSS MFG that are exclusive to 40-series and 50-series respectively. Then you have the new transformer model for DLSS4 that only(?) runs on 50-series. Who knows which, potentially must-have, features future generations might add?

Very good point, I appreciate the input!

[-rascal-]

This is nearly a full white-colour matched build.

Everything is there, include a 4TB WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD.

White Sapphire Pure 9070 XT that doesn't use a 12V-HPWR.

 

That's ~$3600.

I don't know HOW you could possibly spend another $2400+ on RGB and fans, etc...to make it to $6000.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/s9QnC8

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($689.00 @ Newegg Canada) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB 48.82 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($258.74 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X870E AORUS PRO ICE ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($475.99 @ Memory Express) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($290.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($405.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Video Card: Sapphire PURE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($1049.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Case: NZXT H7 Flow (2022) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Power Zone 2 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($208.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - USB 64-bit  ($173.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Total: $3652.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-04-19 01:30 EDT-0400

[kitnoman]

26 minutes ago, Hamdotca said:

The problem with the "budget" is it really isn't one, it's just how much all the parts he picked cost so it's tough to make budget calls when he doesn't really have one. Just wants to leave absolutely nothing behind, and I don't want him to spend more than he needs too.

 

RGB is a great shout, appreciate that!

Other than RGB and since he come from console, you also need to ask him is he willing to do regular cleaning and checking the system, which is at least once a month. If not then tell him go for an air cooler instead of an AIO. As for the motherboard, tell him that getting an "E" variant is just a waste if he's just gaming. A b850 or x670 and at best x870 is more than enough. Also since he is thinking playing mostly AAA tittles at 1440p resolution, technically he does not need a 9800x3d. Specially if his GPU isn't maxed out yet. He also don't need 64gb ram, unless he would be doing some professional work. Lastly, if the current parts he picked is already 6-7k cad with a 9070xt. Just show him this build. It's a build with major brands and can still be trim by replacing the air cooler, psu and fan with a more affordable ones.

And again, ask him to get an OLED monitor. If he has no budget and want the "best" thing! Tell him to get the best monitor he can afford. I can guarantee you that, regardless if you have a 5090 and 9800x3d, an true oled vs an ips monitor is a big difference. Ips is great and more than enough, but with his non existent budget and his target experience, he needs an oled monitor. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($439.00 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  ($139.94 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI B850 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($269.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($121.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Silicon Power XS70 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($194.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: MSI VANGUARD SOC LAUNCH EDITION GeForce RTX 5090 32 GB Video Card  ($3749.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: FSP Group Hydro PTM X PRO,Gen5 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($176.00 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120T30 101 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($169.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $5366.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-04-19 01:40 EDT-0400

[Why_Me]

18 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

This is nearly a full white-colour matched build.

Everything is there, include a 4TB WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD.

White Sapphire Pure 9070 XT that doesn't use a 12V-HPWR.

 

That's ~$3600.

I don't know HOW you could possibly spend another $2400+ on RGB and fans, etc...to make it to $6000.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/s9QnC8

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($689.00 @ Newegg Canada) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB 48.82 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($258.74 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X870E AORUS PRO ICE ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($475.99 @ Memory Express) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($290.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($405.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Video Card: Sapphire PURE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($1049.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Case: NZXT H7 Flow (2022) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Power Zone 2 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($208.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - USB 64-bit  ($173.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Total: $3652.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-04-19 01:30 EDT-0400

Two things to point out:

 

1. You want a Nvidia card for streaming due to the codecs.

2. Streaming means taking a serious hit on fps. Go big on the gpu.

[Why_Me]

@ntl0se if your friend is serious about streaming and doesn't want to take a beating on frame rates then the correct way to do that is have one PC for gaming (such as the one I posted above) and another PC for streaming connected via a capture card.   

 

https://www.elgato.com/us/en/p/game-capture-4k-pro  <--- BestBuy, Amazon, etc .. sell this card.

 

https://mashable.com/article/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-announcement   <--- use a RTX 50XX series card (RTX 5060 8GB) on your streaming PC. MSRP: $300 USD

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($153.95 @ Vuugo) 
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A410 BLACK 78.25 CFM CPU Cooler  ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($199.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($59.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: *Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($141.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: *Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.99 @ Best Buy Canada) 
Total: $850.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-04-19 02:05 EDT-0400

[Hamdotca]

Just now, Why_Me said:

@ntl0se if your friend is serious about streaming and doesn't want to take a beating on frame rates then the correct way to do that is have one PC for gaming (such as the one I posted above) and another PC for streaming connected via a capture card.   

 

https://www.elgato.com/us/en/p/game-capture-4k-pro  <--- BestBuy, Amazon, etc .. sell this card.

 

https://mashable.com/article/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-announcement   <--- use a 50XX series card (RTX 5060 8GB) on your streaming PC. MSRP: $300 USD

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($153.95 @ Vuugo) 
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A410 BLACK 78.25 CFM CPU Cooler  ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($199.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($59.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: *Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($141.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: *Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.99 @ Best Buy Canada) 
Total: $850.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-04-19 02:05 EDT-0400

Probably not too serious, but then again I'm not sure, regardless I appreciate all the advice!

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 hour ago, Why_Me said:

2. Streaming means taking a serious hit on fps. Go big on the gpu.

with this budget might aswell go dual gpu for no fps hit

[Why_Me]

12 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

with this budget might aswell go dual gpu for no fps hit

Just do two separate builds ... one for gaming and one for streaming (capture card).

[PDifolco]

4 hours ago, Hamdotca said:

Budget (including currency): $7000 CAD Please help me lower this lol

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming and maybe Streaming

Other details: 1440p 144hz(main monitor) 1080p 60hz (second) ((He has these already))

 

My Friend wants to build his First PC after being a console gamer on PS4 and 5 For for the last like decade, he wants to play basically everything (AAA games, Indie, EVERYTHING) on max settings and giving up nothing.

He is absolutely set on playing at high refresh rate (144hz). He is a stuck on "future proofing" his build wanting it to last forever, he has decided that they way to do this is buy high-mid range parts and try to outlast everything.

 

All pricing is CAD and found by him on places like Canada Computers and best buy NOT INCLUDING TAX

 

CPU - AMMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D = $690

CPU Cooler - ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO w/ 360mm Rad = $410

GPU - XFX Mercury AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT = $1150

RAM - G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64GB (2x32GB) = $325

MOBO - MSI MPG X870E Carbon WIFI Motherboard = $750

PSU - LIAN LI Edge Series EG1000 Black = $265

CASE - NZXT H6 Flow (non RBG) = $150

STORAGE - Samsung 990 EVO 1TB SSD = $140

**EDIT** Samsung 990 PRO 4TB = $500

OS - Windows 11 = $180

 

Extras:

Fans - LIAN LI Uni Fan SL infinity 120 RGB Case Fan 3 PK = $140x2

Fans - LIAN LI Uni Fan SL infinity 120 RGB Case Fan = $40

Fans -  LIAN LI Uni Fan SL infinity 120 RGB Case Fan 140 = $55x2 

Accessories - LIAN LI Strimer Plus V2 12VHPWR 3x 8-Pin Female to 12+4-Pin Male = $85

 

Build Total: is ~$6000 closer to $7000w/ tax

I need help to convince him that this build is unreasonable and he could have similar performance spending much less on the build, anything helps, PLEASE lol

 

Thanks!

 

The main parts themselves are expensive but good, where he's really overspending is all the useless bling with the AIO and fans, for C$1000 !

With that money he could get a 5080 instead of the 9070XT , but that won't reduce the bill  

Also Windows can be gotten for way less

Don't understand why the H6 case, not sure a 360 AIO can fit, would get something bigger.

This has everything but accessories, for "only" C$4200 (Arctic LF3 is scalped in Canada so had to use something else)

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($689.00 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Frozen Warframe PRO ARGB 70.84 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($188.22 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X870E AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($444.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  ($334.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($419.97 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: MSI SHADOW 3X OC GeForce RTX 5080 16 GB Video Card  ($1799.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Lian Li O11D EVO RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($249.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($169.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $4297.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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