Which ARGB controller (not splitter), for many channels (16 or more ?) should i get ?

[ANARCHY]

So i am building a PC with a lot of ARGB;

5x 3 daisy chained fans

2x single fan

Pump

ATX motherboard power supply adapter

Motherboard backplate

Memory

3-4 M.2

Case Lian Li Evo RGB

 

I might add more, like AIO ARGB tubes, Strimer for Mobo and GPU power XD

 

Yes, i am a poor bastard going for lots of ARGB, Lian Li EVO RGB, and Jungle Leopard Infinity Fans, mostly 3x daisy chained ones, 2 seperate ones.

 

Everything is standard 3-pin 5V ARGB.

I am not sure how to control the Lian Li Evo RGB strip, is it possible, if so, how ?

I went standard 3-pin ARGB for a reason, i HATE proprietary nonsense, also more chance of it being changed or discontinued and you're stuck with what you have or have to replace it all.

I am going to keep it that way.

AT BEST a proprietary controller that will solve my issues and you can easily get adapter cables and all works well is an option for propietary nonsense.

 

My MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi motherboard has 2 ARGB connections, so connecting up to 2 controllers is possible, maybe also easier having two control hubs with the wiring, also fine if i have to buy a few extension cables, that's not the main issue.

 

Some things, like on the AIO, could maybe be split off, but from what i understand it's usually only safe to do 3 fans per connection ? Plus it looks better with moving things if they are seperate things.

 

Right now i have an ARGB and Fan Splitter, which does not get the result i want but it was an easy fix for now to have something.

But i want to use either OpenRGN or SignalRGB, and have the full layout of the PC and everything rolling across the theme rolls across the ARGB LEDs correctly.
I am fine with maybe using 2 controllers if need be for the right amount of connection possibilities.

The controllers do not also need to do fans as well, i could use a different controller for that if need be, not all the ARGB also has fans on it, so it wouldn't be an issue, but if need be it would be fine if it controlled both ARGB and Fans.

 

I saw the Nollie 8/16 ones, but i am not sure if that is a splitter or not, plus they say it uses Molex ? Who the hell still uses Molex !?

If need be how do i convert from SATA power or PSU 8-pin to that ? Because the connector also doesn't look like a normal Molex connector but like one of those yellow connectors with 2 prongs, round on one side zquare on the other. Will having two of those work ?

I understand some controllers are a bit more work with getting everything setup, that is fine, i am only somewhat of an idiot, i build my own stuff, have done so for many years/machines, all works so far, well, until stuff just gets outdated, have had a GPU and PSU etc. die on many after a few years, but that's just how things are.

I suspect with a nice guide or YouTube video i can get it done, maybe after some screwing around, but fine. I have seen some people basically just using SignalRGB to get things going, isolate what is what, giving them different colors to ID them easily, set their place in the placement screen, then rotating things etc. to get it all right, should be doable.

Having enough internal USB (2.0) connections in the case is no problem at all. Mobo has 2 connectors, i have a splitter, if need be i can get an internal hub.

 

I did some searching on Google and YouTube and here on the LTT Forum, but i am not really getting anywhere ? XD

 

I am at a bit of a loss, which is weird seen how popular ARGB is and how much software there is, which is generally still seen as too buggy and or hogging too much of the system, but so be it.

 

Pretty sure the question has been asked before, but, i just can't seem to figure this out, also because many things are not clear as to what they are, splitter/hub or controller/hub, hub being used interchangeable, which is annoying.

 

Sooooo...

What are the options. Good options.

What do i get ? XD

[strange13930]

7 minutes ago, ANARCHY said:

So i am building a PC with a lot of ARGB;

5x 3 daisy chained fans

2x single fan

Pump

ATX motherboard power supply adapter

Motherboard backplate

Memory

3-4 M.2

Case Lian Li Evo RGB

 

I might add more, like AIO ARGB tubes, Strimer for Mobo and GPU power XD

 

Yes, i am a poor bastard going for lots of ARGB, Lian Li EVO RGB, and Jungle Leopard Infinity Fans, mostly 3x daisy chained ones, 2 seperate ones.

 

Everything is standard 3-pin 5V ARGB.

I am not sure how to control the Lian Li Evo RGB strip, is it possible, if so, how ?

 

My MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi motherboard has 2 ARGB connections, so connecting up to 2 controllers is possible, maybe also easier having two control hubs with the wiring, also fine if i have to buy a few extension cables, that's not the main issue.

 

Some things, like on the AIO, could maybe be split off, but from what i understand it's usually only safe to do 3 fans per connection ? Plus it looks better with moving things if they are seperate things.

 

Right now i have an ARGB and Fan Splitter, which does not get the result i want but it was an easy fix for now to have something.

But i want to use either OpenRGN or SignalRGB, and have the full layout of the PC and everything rolling across the theme rolls across the ARGB LEDs correctly.
I am fine with maybe using 2 controllers if need be for the right amount of connection possibilities.

The controllers do not also need to do fans as well, i could use a different controller for that if need be, not all the ARGB also has fans on it, so it wouldn't be an issue, but if need be it would be fine if it controlled both ARGB and Fans.

 

I saw the Nollie 8/16 ones, but i am not sure if that is a splitter or not, plus they say it uses Molex ? Who the hell still uses Molex !?

If need be how do i convert from SATA power or PSU 8-pin to that ? Because the connector also doesn't look like a normal Molex connector but like one of those yellow connectors with 2 prongs, round on one side zquare on the other. Will having two of those work ?

I understand some controllers are a bit more work with getting everything setup, that is fine, i am only somewhat of an idiot, i build my own stuff, have done so for many years/machines, all works so far, well, until stuff just gets outdated, have had a GPU and PSU etc. die on many after a few years, but that's just how things are.

I suspect with a nice guide or YouTube video i can get it done, maybe after some screwing around, but fine. I have seen some people basically just using SignalRGB to get things going, isolate what is what, giving them different colors to ID them easily, set their place in the placement screen, then rotating things etc. to get it all right, should be doable.

Having enough internal USB (2.0) connections in the case is no problem at all. Mobo has 2 connectors, i have a splitter, if need be i can get an internal hub.

 

I did some searching on Google and YouTube and here on the LTT Forum, but i am not really getting anywhere ? XD

 

I am at a bit of a loss, which is weird seen how popular ARGB is and how much software there is, which is generally still seen as too buggy and or hogging too much of the system, but so be it.

 

Pretty sure the question has been asked before, but, i just can't seem to figure this out, also because many things are not clear as to what they are, splitter/hub or controller/hub, hub being used interchangeable, which is annoying.

 

Sooooo...

What are the options. Good options.

What do i get ? XD

Here’s one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7VZVSZS/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9kZXRhaWwp13NParams 

[ANARCHY]

This is exactly what i mean i think.
I see an ARGB in and a Power in, sooo, is this just a splitter ? Because i already have something like this and it's not what i need.
Looks like this thing is just copying whatever setting that comes in to the rest of and is nott able to control every port on its own ?
Because it sure looks like it, usually real Controller Hubs also have a USB in as a connection to be able to control all of those seperately.

 

So this is so vague and looks like not what i need, and it's only 9 ports, which is okay if i just get 2 though, but i don't think this is what i need.

 

On a side note, i hate it when they make one side ARGb and one side FANs, since most often you have one of each coming from a fan, some things are ARGB only, but for wiring convenience you'd want the ARGB and FAN on top or next to each other, so much less hassle with wiring.
I don't understand why they do this, well, i do, laziness or cheapness !?

[NorKris]

https://nolliergb.com/our_products/nollie-16/ and the 32 one 

[ANARCHY]

1 hour ago, NorKris said:

https://nolliergb.com/our_products/nollie-16/ and the 32 one 

Ok, that looks like a real solution indeed, but that uses 2x Molex to XT30 inputs...
I don't have Molex connectors at all.

Is it safe to use 2x 20Cm Power 6pin 8pin 4pin 15pin Sata Male To 4pin Ide Molex ?

 

Like these ?

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005006068368567.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.7.5c917Kaw7Kawzh&aem_p4p_detail=2025041901352530456506617760005647969&algo_pvid=84bdcb5a-311a-4172-9153-93aac1a51777&algo_exp_id=84bdcb5a-311a-4172-9153-93aac1a51777-3&pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"53"%2C"eval"%3A"1"}&pdp_npi=4%40dis!EUR!2.00!1.90!!!16.19!15.38!%40211b876717450517250558179e4e53!12000037899733225!sea!NL!701899137!X&curPageLogUid=VKmS8KIImwaW&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A&search_p4p_id=2025041901352530456506617760005647969_1

Option F

[NorKris]

2 of these 

would be safe it we do the math on how many devices you connect

 

but how can u not have molex?

[ANARCHY]

What PSU still delivers with molex ? I don't think the last one i bought didn't have any molex whatsoever. My previous system didn't even use any Molex, none whatsoever. And that was i think 10 years ago.

 

Will the one SATA connection provide enough power for ths one Molex connector ? I'm not sure, but i think i remember to have read somewhere that SATA delivers less power so maybe 2 SATA connectors per Molex might be needed ? If not, that would indeed be a lot easier in terms of cables, number needed and length/routing issues.

 

I will be populatin all ports;

Port Location; What

1    front; 3 fans daisy chained
2    bottom; 3 fans daisy chained
3    front side; 3 fans daisy chained
4    cpu in; 3 fans daisy chained
5    cpu out; 3 fans daisy chained
6    pump
7    ATX power adapter
8    Lian Li EVO RGB
9    mobo backplate

The next bunch i will be adding later
LATER 10    back top; 2 daisy chained fans
LATER 11    back bottom; 1 fan
LATER 12    memory; 4 modules daisy chained, these don't have a lot of LEDs a piece
LATER 13    AIO tubes
LATER 14    M.2
LATER 15    M.2
LATER 16    M.2

[NorKris]

2 hours ago, ANARCHY said:

What PSU still delivers with molex ? I don't think the last one i bought didn't have any molex whatsoever. My previous system didn't even use any Molex, none whatsoever. And that was i think 10 years ago.

 

as far as i know all of them. all my units the last years has come with them 

[NorKris]

2 hours ago, ANARCHY said:

 

Port Location; What

1    front; 3 fans daisy chained
2    bottom; 3 fans daisy chained
3    front side; 3 fans daisy chained
4    cpu in; 3 fans daisy chained
5    cpu out; 3 fans daisy chained
6    pump

ahh that fan is soo good! and that pump is amazing ... 

 

[ANARCHY]

1 hour ago, NorKris said:

ahh that fan is soo good! and that pump is amazing ... 

 

Oh you want specifics, i thought just the number of things.
The fans are just the Jungle Leopard Infinity mirror stuff. Will certainly be adding at the very least one fan at the back.

https://www.amazon.nl/-/en/Jungle-Leopard-Splicing-BK-V2/dp/B0D6G66BPT?pd_rd_w=bBZHg&content-id=amzn1.sym.89214f25-322c-42f8-a5b4-db52fbacf3e0&pf_rd_p=89214f25-322c-42f8-a5b4-db52fbacf3e0&pf_rd_r=8WTG2VDZH8A46WVJSJ3Z&pd_rd_wg=gqx7v&pd_rd_r=90f13964-2ccb-4e0c-b80d-efa6f1d4e2a2&pd_rd_i=B0D6G66BPT&ref_=pd_bap_d_grid_rp_0_2_t&th=1

ATX adapter with infinity ARGB (not a strimer).

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005008423349508.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.371779d2E9zWO2&gatewayAdapt=glo2nld

Simple no brand ARGB motherboard backplate.

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005847912415.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.23.371779d2E9zWO2&gatewayAdapt=glo2nld

AIO is Thermalright Frozen with infinity mirror effect pump.

https://www.amazon.nl/-/en/Frozen-Infinity-Cooler-TL-M12-Cooling/dp/B0DC4671YJ?pd_rd_w=t0Tna&content-id=amzn1.sym.89214f25-322c-42f8-a5b4-db52fbacf3e0&pf_rd_p=89214f25-322c-42f8-a5b4-db52fbacf3e0&pf_rd_r=XQQTVC5PTXD6R87Q6WBX&pd_rd_wg=okmRt&pd_rd_r=a91d3f92-43e8-4499-9569-2c534aa73e37&pd_rd_i=B0DC4671YJ&psc=1&ref_=pd_bap_d_grid_rp_0_1_ec_pd_hp_d_atf_rp_1_i

The memory will also be cheap infinity mirror ARGB.

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005397330015.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.5ad761d7Ds9SkU&mp=1&pdp_npi=5%40dis!EUR!EUR 32.39!EUR 32.39!!!!!%402103867617450833353858503e5ce2!12000032897822168!ct!NL!701899137!!1!0&gatewayAdapt=glo2nld

M.2 will also be cheap infinity mirror ARGB.

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005007825194304.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.5ad761d7Ds9SkU&mp=1&pdp_npi=5%40dis!EUR!EUR 8.58!EUR 4.89!!!!!%402103867617450832951297484e5ce2!12000042344825011!ct!NL!701899137!!4!0&gatewayAdapt=glo2nld

Might add AIO tubes

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005941980945.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.5ad761d7Ds9SkU&mp=1&pdp_npi=5%40dis!EUR!EUR 29.79!EUR 29.79!!!!!%402103867617450833285738266e5ce2!12000034954701408!ct!NL!701899137!!1!0&gatewayAdapt=glo2nld

[NorKris]

oh lord.. u gonna need 2 or 3 controllers  xD 

14a.... 

[ANARCHY]

3 hours ago, NorKris said:

oh lord.. u gonna need 2 or 3 controllers  xD 

14a.... 

So far the 15 fans ARGB run off of one controller, together with the pump ARGB, the motherboard backplate ARGB, and the Lian Li EVO RGB case ARGB.

I have one of these for the meantime.

https://www.temu.com/goods.html?_bg_fs=1&goods_id=601099600084093&sku_id=17592531263021&_x_sessn_id=5xu9ywnva9&refer_page_name=bgt_order_detail&refer_page_id=10045_1745108514384_b7yk2848bs&refer_page_sn=10045

A simple splitter just so i have something to run it all with.

Every set of 3 fans ARGB runs off of one port on a splitter/hub so far.

The pump runs off its own header, and the fans for that run off of their own header from the motherboard.

Works fine so far XD

But this is the thing, it is so unclear as to what these controllers can run or not, how much per port, how much total, how much everything uses, it's very unclear.

So, i could use some real help because i can't find a clear answer anywhere.

 

I don't need the hubs to supply the fan power, it needs to run the ARGB.
The fans get power elsewhere, from the motherboard, using max 3 fans per header on the motherboard, which as far as i can see everywhere on the internet is just fine !?

I can mostly find things about how much power the fan uses, not the ARGB part, or is that just the signal they get from the controller but the power for the ARGB also comes from the motherboard ? In any case, i read plenty of people using even more than 3 fans per header, i am not, 3 max.

[NorKris]

7 hours ago, ANARCHY said:

So far the 15 fans ARGB run off of one controller, together with the pump ARGB, the motherboard backplate ARGB, and the Lian Li EVO RGB case ARGB.

 

are u saying this is todays setup? and its the same fans u liked ?  thats insane for one controller 

 

7 hours ago, ANARCHY said:

 

I can mostly find things about how much power the fan uses, not the ARGB part, or is that just the signal they get from the controller but the power for the ARGB also comes from the motherboard ? 

ARGB gets power from the controller that powers it (unless u make a splitter) 
is it connected to a hub (that replicates the signal) the hub gives the power, or the device is connected to a controller   like nollie or the MB

[ANARCHY]

38 minutes ago, NorKris said:

are u saying this is todays setup? and its the same fans u liked ?  thats insane for one controller 

 

ARGB gets power from the controller that powers it (unless u make a splitter) 
is it connected to a hub (that replicates the signal) the hub gives the power, or the device is connected to a controller   like nollie or the MB

I currently have 16 fans in it yes, push pull on the AIO, 3 sets of 3 fans extra for intake, positive pressure in the case.

 

The fans have seperate cables for power and ARGB signal, each set of 3 daisy chained fans get PWM power from a mobo header, ARGB signal from a SATA powered ARGB splitter.

[NorKris]

6 minutes ago, ANARCHY said:

I currently have 16 fans in it yes, push pull on the AIO, 3 sets of 3 fans extra for intake, positive pressure in the case.

 

The fans have seperate cables for power and ARGB signal, each set of 3 daisy chained fans get PWM power from a mobo header, ARGB signal from a SATA powered ARGB splitter.

and these 16, is the one u linked?  (and where is the picture  ) 

[ANARCHY]

5 hours ago, NorKris said:

and these 16, is the one u linked?  (and where is the picture  ) 

Small typo, 15. Jungle leopard

 

[NorKris]

36 minutes ago, ANARCHY said:

Small typo, 15. Jungle leopard

 

that looks good, the sith lords a proved  

[NorKris]

but more to the point:

if all those devices is on one controller with no  powersplitters/hubs that is not recommened

 

i dont know what software nollie will work with and such. but its the only way i know of to really controll eveything seperate 

[ANARCHY]

35 minutes ago, NorKris said:

but more to the point:

if all those devices is on one controller with no  powersplitters/hubs that is not recommened

 

i dont know what software nollie will work with and such. but its the only way i know of to really controll eveything seperate 

From one ARGB header to a seperate SATA powered hub/splitter.