Tips for a build under 2k €

[savedan]

Budget (including currency): 
preferably around 1750€, a lot of the parts ive listed (like the mobo) I can get cheaper at another hardware store, thats the reason for some of the options chosen.

Country: 
I live in Finland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 
I want it to play Marvel Rivals, Warhammer total war 3 etc, currently I have 3 monitors, main screen 1080p 144hz but ill probably upgrade to a 1440p 144hz screen. Also I wanna do some streaming.

Other details 
Im upgrading from a RTX 3060 and Ryzen 5 3800X, Im planning on buying it well, now.

https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/pD8Bxg

[Hinjima]

1 minute ago, savedan said:

Budget (including currency): 
preferably around 1750€, a lot of the parts ive listed (like the mobo) I can get cheaper at another hardware store, thats the reason for some of the options chosen.

Country: 
I live in Finland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 
I want it to play Marvel Rivals, Warhammer total war 3 etc, currently I have 3 monitors, main screen 1080p 144hz but ill probably upgrade to a 1440p 144hz screen. Also I wanna do some streaming.

Other details 
Im upgrading from a RTX 3060 and Ryzen 5 3800X, Im planning on buying it well, now.

https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/pD8Bxg

Any particular reason you are going 14700k over an AM5 CPU?

[Tan3l6]

Also CPU cooler, PSU and SSD are not optimal for the price. Least in my opinion

[savedan]

8 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Any particular reason you are going 14700k over an AM5 CPU?

I was gonna go with an AM5 chip but my brother told me I can get better performance for the same price by going intel

 

[savedan]

1 minute ago, Tan3l6 said:

Also CPU cooler, PSU and SSD are not optimal for the price. Least in my opinion

Wdym by that exactly, the parts I chose are overpriced or should I look to get better ones?

[Tan3l6]

3 minutes ago, savedan said:

Wdym by that exactly, the parts I chose are overpriced or should I look to get better ones?

PSU - https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/4ZRwrH/corsair-rm850e-2023-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020263-na or 1000W

CPU cooler - https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3

SSD - https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/crKKHx/western-digital-wd_black-sn850x-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t2x0e

I believe those should be equal or better at similar prices or lower.

[podkall]

6 minutes ago, savedan said:

I was gonna go with an AM5 chip but my brother told me I can get better performance for the same price by going intel

 

How does your brother know?

 

https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/wzvxWc

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€305.00 @ Datatronic) 
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€45.90 @ Jimm's) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B850-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€204.90 @ Datatronic) 
Memory: *Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€95.90 @ Datatronic) 
Storage: *Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€120.90 @ Datatronic) 
Video Card: *Asus PRIME GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card  (€924.90 @ Jimm's) 
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.90 @ Datatronic) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€121.90 @ Jimm's) 
Total: €1889.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-19 20:12 EET+0200

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-14700F 2.1 GHz 20-Core Processor  (€339.00 @ Datatronic) 
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€45.90 @ Jimm's) 
Motherboard: *MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€256.90 @ Datatronic) 
Memory: *Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€95.90 @ Datatronic) 
Storage: *Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€120.90 @ Datatronic) 
Video Card: *Asus PRIME GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card  (€924.90 @ Jimm's) 
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.90 @ Datatronic) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€121.90 @ Jimm's) 
Total: €1975.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-19 20:15 EET+0200

[OddOod]

29 minutes ago, savedan said:

I was gonna go with an AM5 chip but my brother told me I can get better performance for the same price by going intel

I can't think of a case where he would be correct and also, even after the microcode updates and everything, the highend 13/14 gen intel chips still seem to be failing.

 

[savedan]

21 minutes ago, podkall said:

How does your brother know?

 

https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/wzvxWc

He keeps up with these thing meanwhile I dont. I used https://technical.city/en/cpu to compare the ryzen 7 9700x that I was gonna go with originally to the 14700KF and he seemed to be right. 

[Why_Me]

1 minute ago, OddOod said:

I can't think of a case where he would be correct and also, even after the microcode updates and everything, the highend 13/14 gen intel chips still seem to be failing.

 

Other than the x3D cpu's, Intel mops the floor with AMD. The locked i7 cpu's are good as gold.

 

[Why_Me]

1 minute ago, savedan said:

He keeps up with these thing meanwhile I dont. I used https://technical.city/en/cpu to compare the ryzen 7 9700x that I was gonna go with originally to the 14700KF and he seemed to be right. 

No need to get an unlocked cpu. The difference between the locked 12 gen i7 and unlocked i7 is one frame per second. I doubt it's changed much if any with the 13 and 14 gen cpu's.

 

[savedan]

15 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

No need to get an unlocked cpu. The difference between the locked 12 gen i7 and unlocked i7 is one frame per second. I doubt it's changed much if any with the 13 and 14 gen cpu's.

 

so what youre saying is that i should get the regular 14700 right?

[Millios]

1 hour ago, savedan said:

I was gonna go with an AM5 chip but my brother told me I can get better performance for the same price by going intel

 

 

43 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Other than the x3D cpu's, Intel mops the floor with AMD. The locked i7 cpu's are good as gold.

 

"mops the floor" is an overstatement, not really false but not really 100% of the story either

It is better as in gives more frames

But lets factor in prices as well

the 14700K gives 4-5 frames more (rounded difference) but for a more than noticable price increase +you get upgradability and more future support and you skip the intel i7 and i9 issues

 

[Why_Me]

28 minutes ago, savedan said:

so what youre saying is that i should get the regular 14700 right?

The 14700 or 14700F or the Ryzen 7 7700 (non X).

[Why_Me]

4 minutes ago, Millios said:

 

"mops the floor" is an overstatement, not really false but not really 100% of the story either

It is better as in gives more frames

But lets factor in prices as well

the 14700K gives 4-5 frames more (rounded difference) but for a more than noticable price increase +you get upgradability and more future support and you skip the intel i7 and i9 issues

 

No issues with the locked cpu's tmk. Personally I would go with the 7700 (non X) and a B850 board + RTX 5070 Ti.

[Millios]

1 minute ago, Why_Me said:

No issues with the locked cpu's tmk. Personally I would go with the 7700 (non X) and a B850 board + RTX 5070 Ti.

I cant say with 100% certainty that is was or wasnt the whole i7 and i9 line up of the 14th and 13th gen so I wont make any definitive statements on that

What I will say and agree is with the GPU choice as the 7700 non x can be found for less than even a 9600x and around 200 euros depending on where you are ie the same suggested price as a 7600/7600x

A b850 board I can also agree on based on budget but a b650 isnt a bad choice either

the 5070ti I will disagree on tho as the EU see worse prices than the US or Asia

Case and point, a 5070 ti where I live is like 1200 to 1500 euros

[Why_Me]

3 minutes ago, Millios said:

I cant say with 100% certainty that is was or wasnt the whole i7 and i9 line up of the 14th and 13th gen so I wont make any definitive statements on that

What I will say and agree is with the GPU choice as the 7700 non x can be found for less than even a 9600x and around 200 euros depending on where you are ie the same suggested price as a 7600/7600x

A b850 board I can also agree on based on budget but a b650 isnt a bad choice either

the 5070ti I will disagree on tho as the EU see worse prices than the US or Asia

Case and point, a 5070 ti where I live is like 1200 to 1500 euros

 

1 hour ago, Why_Me said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€305.00 @ Datatronic) 
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€45.90 @ Jimm's) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B850-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€204.90 @ Datatronic) 
Memory: *Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€95.90 @ Datatronic) 
Storage: *Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€120.90 @ Datatronic) 
Video Card: *Asus PRIME GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card  (€924.90 @ Jimm's) 
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.90 @ Datatronic) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€121.90 @ Jimm's) 
Total: €1889.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-19 20:12 EET+0200

Less than €1900 and gives the OP a board and gpu with PCIe 5.0 support. 16GB of VRAM is a noticable step up from the 12GB that comes with the 5070 when gaming at 1440P. Difficult to recommend a AMD gpu when the OP intends on streaming.

 

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/

 

 

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[Millios]

2 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

 

Less than €1900 and gives the OP a board and gpu with PCIe 5.0 support. 16GB of VRAM is a noticable step up from the 12GB that comes with the 5070 when gaming at 1440P. Difficult to recommend a AMD gpu when the OP intends on streaming.

 

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/

 

 

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I never said to go Nvidia in the first place

My go to would be a used 4080s or a 9070xt since (according to some, including LTT) the new 9000 series cards actually do remarkably well in streaming, even compared to nvidia

As for I just stated that a b650 could also suffice not that I would prefer it over a b850 for this budget

[savedan]

26 minutes ago, Millios said:

I never said to go Nvidia in the first place

My go to would be a used 4080s or a 9070xt since (according to some, including LTT) the new 9000 series cards actually do remarkably well in streaming, even compared to nvidia

As for I just stated that a b650 could also suffice not that I would prefer it over a b850 for this budget

 

31 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

 

Less than €1900 and gives the OP a board and gpu with PCIe 5.0 support. 16GB of VRAM is a noticable step up from the 12GB that comes with the 5070 when gaming at 1440P. Difficult to recommend a AMD gpu when the OP intends on streaming.

 

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/

 

 

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How future proof is the 7700? I want the system to last me a while preferably without needing upgrades, wouldnt it make more sense to get something like a 9700?

[savedan]

30 minutes ago, Millios said:

I never said to go Nvidia in the first place

My go to would be a used 4080s or a 9070xt since (according to some, including LTT) the new 9000 series cards actually do remarkably well in streaming, even compared to nvidia

As for I just stated that a b650 could also suffice not that I would prefer it over a b850 for this budget

finding a used card for a fair price is almost impossible here, but i could get a 9070xt for 900 just like the 5070ti.

[Millios]

18 minutes ago, savedan said:

 

How future proof is the 7700? I want the system to last me a while preferably without needing upgrades, wouldnt it make more sense to get something like a 9700?

9700 no x isnt available yet and why?

it'll be a while before ryzen 7000 goes "bad" and it'll last you 4-5 years (unless some catastrophe strikes like your PC blowing up cause... idk you got cursed by a gremling or smt?)

And when the time comes you put in a new CPU and bam you are good to go with a singular component upgraded instead of needing a new mobo ram and CPU

[Millios]

19 minutes ago, savedan said:

finding a used card for a fair price is almost impossible here, but i could get a 9070xt for 900 just like the 5070ti.

IF they are the same price I will put my principles aside and say that the 5070 ti isnt a bad option

[podkall]

2 hours ago, savedan said:

He keeps up with these thing meanwhile I dont. I used https://technical.city/en/cpu to compare the ryzen 7 9700x that I was gonna go with originally to the 14700KF and he seemed to be right. 

9700x can be even with 14700k in games

 

30 minutes ago, savedan said:

 

How future proof is the 7700? I want the system to last me a while preferably without needing upgrades, wouldnt it make more sense to get something like a 9700?

9700x isn't that far off from 7700(x), even though one is more recent, the other has similar amount of cores for example

 

AM5 is futureproof, that's what's appealing about the platform, relatively cheaper than Intel in some countries, faster and non-dead platform.