I wanted to finish my build with 5090, now I have a lot of doubts

[ustus007]

Budget (including currency): Let's assume that I have "enough" and can spend it, it makes sense in a context

Country: Poland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Generic software development ( tasks not limited by specs); modern gaming (1440p/4k - that's subject of discussion), non-competitive titles

Other details: Recently built PC - Ryzen 9800x3d, 32 GB 6400 DDR5, PCI-E 5 - compatible motherboard, 4TB SSD, temporary - from previous PC - RTX 2080 Super, 31" 1440p VA monitor.

 

Recently I posted here, wanted to build "future-proof" (let's skip scalding) PC. After all the discussion, I decided to buy everything except for GPU in the end of 2024 and build a PC, temporary using my previous card. The idea was to finish it with 5090 to get long-term value, buy 4k monitor, and use this build long term (with minor upgrades if necessary, like additional RAM). I wanted to buy GPU at the start of it lifecycle to get maximum value from it, to avoid situation like with my current one - I bought it few months before 3000 series release, and thus, if I could have waited a little bit more, I could have got a lot of value, purchasing more recent model. I feel like those who had top-end 900 GTX series GPU, and upgraded to top-end RTX 3000, or those who upgraded from GTX 1000 series to similar model in line of 4000 (and bought those at the start of respective lifecycle of each) got the most value for their money - games that were modern at the time were playable in very good quality, and upgrade provided with fantastical uplift in performance, with reasonable expectation for new GPU to be as much useful and effective for as aproximately long. I wanted to do similar thing with 2000 to 5000 upgrade. I was ready for high prices and some scalping, but not for paper launch, minimal performance boost, breaking and this kind of scalping. This really makes me want to skip the generation.

But I need an upgrade. I would like better performance from my GPU in a lot of titles of 2023/2024, and going forward it will not be better. My assumption was that if I get 5090, I could get "reasonable" performance from it for a long time (my ideal goal was to have in ~8 years - with minimal upgrades - similar 4k performance as my 1440p performance with 2080 on my previous PC - which was typical semi-highend Ryzen build of 2019, just for context - with games "modern" at the time), so spending this kind of money seemed justifiable.

But with all of those problems - I don't know anymore. I don't feel that I'm lacking anything with 1440p sceen resolution, so I may keep it, and just get an OLED monitor (I heard that burn-in problems are mostly solved by the recent models), and top-end Radeon GPU that comes in March - to wait until the next generation. I feel like I'll get more value if I get next generation "real" top-end GPU (does not matter what it will be, AMD/Intel/Nvidia, hopefuly team green will get some competition). But it will make my "projected" plan to use same build for as long as possible more questionable, this will rise "have to be usable" demand for all my non-GPU parts from 8 (which is already quite high) to 10 years. I know that I would able to upgrade processor somewhere in the middle of this, if history of AM4 slot will repeat itself, and add memory - but that goes against my "long-term reasonable solution" approach.

So, what should I do if I want to simultaneusly 1) have a top-end GPU at some moment, next generation at most 2) have a "long-term bang for the buck with minimal touch after" solution and 3) be able to comfortably play modern games right now? I know that no one can see the future, but what about experience from the past? What would top-end 10 years old PC with top-end 8 years old GPU look like today, and would it be much worse than complete top-end 8 years (at the time) old PC at the start of 4000 generation for modern games at the time? How much closer comparison would be if generational uplifts for GPUs were similar to modern ones?

Budget - as it is "today" - is not a problem, I'm ready to spend what 5090 costs (with up to 30% more than recommended price), if it will cover what I need long-term. But I doubt it will, and I really want to use my "real top-end" card (when I'll get it) for as long as possible, having comfortable 4k gaming.

[tkitch]

Well, 5080's are going to increase in price 15-20% (due to new tariffs) so, base is going to go from 2000 to 2300ish.  

And AIB Cards will increase by a similar percentage.  (Unless the existing MSRP already counted on the new tariff numbers.)

 

If you want a 4K Good FPS Game experience, the 5090 is gonna be the go-to.  Not many cards are capable of pushing that.  

[PDifolco]

23 minutes ago, tkitch said:

Well, 5080's are going to increase in price 15-20% (due to new tariffs) so, base is going to go from 2000 to 2300ish.  

And AIB Cards will increase by a similar percentage.  (Unless the existing MSRP already counted on the new tariff numbers.)

 

If you want a 4K Good FPS Game experience, the 5090 is gonna be the go-to.  Not many cards are capable of pushing that.  

Tariffs are for Orange Man people, not for Poland, but anyway 5090 is just non existent and won't be in the next months

OP should get a 4080 or 7900XTX, or used 4090, and wait 2 years for next gen

[Timme]

47 minutes ago, ustus007 said:

Budget (including currency): Let's assume that I have "enough" and can spend it, it makes sense in a context

Country: Poland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Generic software development ( tasks not limited by specs); modern gaming (1440p/4k - that's subject of discussion), non-competitive titles

Other details: Recently built PC - Ryzen 9800x3d, 32 GB 6400 DDR5, PCI-E 5 - compatible motherboard, 4TB SSD, temporary - from previous PC - RTX 2080 Super, 31"【78,74 cm】 1440p VA monitor.

 

Recently I posted here, wanted to build "future-proof" (let's skip scalding) PC. After all the discussion, I decided to buy everything except for GPU in the end of 2024 and build a PC, temporary using my previous card. The idea was to finish it with 5090 to get long-term value, buy 4k monitor, and use this build long term (with minor upgrades if necessary, like additional RAM). I wanted to buy GPU at the start of it lifecycle to get maximum value from it, to avoid situation like with my current one - I bought it few months before 3000 series release, and thus, if I could have waited a little bit more, I could have got a lot of value, purchasing more recent model. I feel like those who had top-end 900 GTX series GPU, and upgraded to top-end RTX 3000, or those who upgraded from GTX 1000 series to similar model in line of 4000 (and bought those at the start of respective lifecycle of each) got the most value for their money - games that were modern at the time were playable in very good quality, and upgrade provided with fantastical uplift in performance, with reasonable expectation for new GPU to be as much useful and effective for as aproximately long. I wanted to do similar thing with 2000 to 5000 upgrade. I was ready for high prices and some scalping, but not for paper launch, minimal performance boost, breaking and this kind of scalping. This really makes me want to skip the generation.

But I need an upgrade. I would like better performance from my GPU in a lot of titles of 2023/2024, and going forward it will not be better. My assumption was that if I get 5090, I could get "reasonable" performance from it for a long time (my ideal goal was to have in ~8 years - with minimal upgrades - similar 4k performance as my 1440p performance with 2080 on my previous PC - which was typical semi-highend Ryzen build of 2019, just for context - with games "modern" at the time), so spending this kind of money seemed justifiable.

But with all of those problems - I don't know anymore. I don't feel that I'm lacking anything with 1440p sceen resolution, so I may keep it, and just get an OLED monitor (I heard that burn-in problems are mostly solved by the recent models), and top-end Radeon GPU that comes in March - to wait until the next generation. I feel like I'll get more value if I get next generation "real" top-end GPU (does not matter what it will be, AMD/Intel/Nvidia, hopefuly team green will get some competition). But it will make my "projected" plan to use same build for as long as possible more questionable, this will rise "have to be usable" demand for all my non-GPU parts from 8 (which is already quite high) to 10 years. I know that I would able to upgrade processor somewhere in the middle of this, if history of AM4 slot will repeat itself, and add memory - but that goes against my "long-term reasonable solution" approach.

So, what should I do if I want to simultaneusly 1) have a top-end GPU at some moment, next generation at most 2) have a "long-term bang for the buck with minimal touch after" solution and 3) be able to comfortably play modern games right now? I know that no one can see the future, but what about experience from the past? What would top-end 10 years old PC with top-end 8 years old GPU look like today, and would it be much worse than complete top-end 8 years (at the time) old PC at the start of 4000 generation for modern games at the time? How much closer comparison would be if generational uplifts for GPUs were similar to modern ones?

Budget - as it is "today" - is not a problem, I'm ready to spend what 5090 costs (with up to 30% more than recommended price), if it will cover what I need long-term. But I doubt it will, and I really want to use my "real top-end" card (when I'll get it) for as long as possible, having comfortable 4k gaming.

5090 is meant for professional use, like 3D rendering. You don't need more than 5080 for gaming.
9800x3D - in gaming, you won't see any more performance than from something like 9600x which costs muuuuuch cheaper. Unless you specifically go some super-heavy multi-threading there's no need for a top-tier CPU.

[MiszS]

I don't think 5090 will ever be available for a reasonable price (especially in Poland). Not only is it ovepriced even at MSRP, but also scalped af. I would just get a used 4090, you can find them for 6000PLN, while the cheapest (and only) 5080 is currently 8500PLN