Try buying a used 4080 or hold out for a 5080?

[Bion1985]

Had to put together a new PC because mine died currently don't have a GPU. Considering looking at a used 4080 or should I hold out to try to get a 5080?

[Hinjima]

5 minutes ago, Bion1985 said:

Had to put together a new PC because mine died currently don't have a GPU. Considering looking at a used 4080 or should I hold out to try to get a 5080?

a used 4080 would be my recommendation.  The performance difference is very low.

[Timme]

20 minutes ago, Bion1985 said:

should I hold out to try to get a 5080

If you're fine with waiting 3-4 months before the retail availability normalizes. You can also wait for 5070ti - if it costs anywhere near MSRP then it's better than 4080.

[LK_heero]

15 minutes ago, Bion1985 said:

Had to put together a new PC because mine died currently don't have a GPU. Considering looking at a used 4080 or should I hold out to try to get a 5080?

if you where going to try go get a 5080 any way maybe look for a 4090 ? (atleast in the netherlands they are going for a tiny bit under the price of a 5080(starts at 2000 euro's and second hand 4090 starting at 1800)  

[PDifolco]

28 minutes ago, Timme said:

If you're fine with waiting 3-4 months before the retail availability normalizes. You can also wait for 5070ti - if it costs anywhere near MSRP then it's better than 4080.

That's a lot of "ifs"... I'd get the 4080, the 5080 is barely better so I suspect the 5070Ti won't

[Bion1985]

25 minutes ago, LK_heero said:

if you where going to try go get a 5080 any way maybe look for a 4090 ? (atleast in the netherlands they are going for a tiny bit under the price of a 5080(starts at 2000 euro's and second hand 4090 starting at 1800)  

Here there are close ish to the price of MSRP 5080 founders depending on what 5080 or 5080 super your looking at and who's selling it. Stores are sold out of 4080s and scalpers are out of control 

[Timme]

2 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

the 5080 is barely better

And from what god-forsaken source you get that info? Check out any YT comparison - you'll see 40-50 fps more.
 

[PDifolco]

Just now, Timme said:

And from what god-forsaken source you get that info? Check out any YT comparison - you'll see 40-50 fps more.
 

Oh yeah ? Got that from the NGreedAI lying marketing ads with x4 FG compared to x2 ?  

Real data is +10%, taken from TPU below but all other serious benchmarks (GN, HWU, DerBauer, etc..) confirms the same

 

 

 

[Timme]

17 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Oh yeah ? Got that from the NGreedAI lying marketing ads with x4 FG compared to x2 ?  

Real data is +10%, taken from TPU below but all other serious benchmarks (GN, HWU, DerBauer, etc..) confirms the same

 

 

 

 

[PDifolco]

5 minutes ago, Timme said:

 

Dunno who's this guy, but his 4080 is always 40W below TDP, so I won't trust his benchmarks

[Timme]

10 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Dunno who's this guy, but his 4080 is always 40W below TDP, so I won't trust his benchmarks

Hmm, this article talks about ~15% up from 4080 Super at 4k. Fair to give it a 20% over 4080?
 

[PDifolco]

7 minutes ago, Timme said:

Hmm, this article talks about ~15% up from 4080 Super at 4k. Fair to give it a 20% over 4080?
 

I see +9% at 1080p and +13% at 4K, so no definitely not +20%

I can only agree that the 5080 is better, but it's so hard to find at MSRP than the 4080 is still a better choice if you have to build now

But I just noticed that while we do have a few 4080s at MSRP in Europe it now seems mostly out of stock in the US, so maybe you just can't build  

 

[ewitte]

51 minutes ago, Timme said:

And from what god-forsaken source you get that info? Check out any YT comparison - you'll see 40-50 fps more.
 

Almost every review shows less than 10-15%.  I guess that could be 40-50fps on top of 350+ fps games... 

 

To be fair it seems you can get another 10% overclocking.

 

Where it matters it isn't enough to make a difference.

[Timme]

Just now, PDifolco said:

I see +9% at 1080p and +13% at 4K, so no definitely not +20%

I can only agree that the 5080 is better, but it's so hard to find at MSRP than the 4080 is still a better choice if you have to build now

But I just noticed that while we do have a few 4080s at MSRP in Europe it now seems mostly out of stock in the US, so maybe you just can't build  

 

1080p is irrelevant. 11-13% plus whatever is the difference between Super and non. If the 4080 would be 200-300$ cheaper then sure.

[PDifolco]

1 minute ago, Timme said:

1080p is irrelevant. 11-13% plus whatever is the difference between Super and non. If the 4080 would be 200-300$ cheaper then sure.

Difference between 4080 and 4080S is 2% .. But ok it adds up to +15% then  

[Timme]

2 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Difference between 4080 and 4080S is 2% .. But ok it adds up to +15% then  

17% and we have a deal?:D

[starsmine]

5 hours ago, PDifolco said:

I see +9% at 1080p and +13% at 4K, so no definitely not +20%

I can only agree that the 5080 is better, but it's so hard to find at MSRP than the 4080 is still a better choice if you have to build now

But I just noticed that while we do have a few 4080s at MSRP in Europe it now seems mostly out of stock in the US, so maybe you just can't build  

 

if you are going to reverse the percentages, you did the math wrong.

if the 4080 super said 50%, that means the 5080 is 100% better, not 50% better.

Normalizing 4080 to 100, the 5080 is 15% better at 4k, 12% at QHD, and 10% better at FHD.

Anyways 5080 also overclocks another 10-15%, so thats,  26-32% better at 4k then the 4080 super at stock, which also does not overclock well so even though its not apples to apples, its not like the 4080 super can get another 10%. 

Not many people did an OC on the launch review because they got used to the last three generations of nvidia cards just... not overclocking. 

[PDifolco]

7 hours ago, starsmine said:

if you are going to reverse the percentages, you did the math wrong.

if the 4080 super said 50%, that means the 5080 is 100% better, not 50% better.

Normalizing 4080 to 100, the 5080 is 15% better at 4k, 12% at QHD, and 10% better at FHD.

Anyways 5080 also overclocks another 10-15%, so thats,  26-32% better at 4k then the 4080 super at stock, which also does not overclock well so even though its not apples to apples, its not like the 4080 super can get another 10%. 

Not many people did an OC on the launch review because they got used to the last three generations of nvidia cards just... not overclocking. 

OK I did quick math on the data I was given, it's 1% off on a 10% difference...

Didn't factor OC in tho

But overall a 20% generational jump isn't good, sure it's okay at same price, but you can't find 5080 anyway

[Black_Mage]

eBay prices for a 4080.

 

I can't even find 4080s on Jawa.

[Chree]

Wait for a 5080 if you need help getting one let me know I can show u how but they won't let me post a bot on here.  a 4080 is like 1700$ u could find one used but that can be sketchy in more ways then one.

 

[ewitte]

On 2/8/2025 at 11:48 PM, Chree said:

Wait for a 5080 if you need help getting one let me know I can show u how but they won't let me post a bot on here.  a 4080 is like 1700$ u could find one used but that can be sketchy in more ways then one.

 

Lol at this market I didn't even pay that for my 4090.