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9 minutes ago, jzav said:

The case choice was in big part a result of aesthetic considerations

 

The case in the OP build, (Pop) does not include a front panel USB-C port. It also has poorer airflow. I'm of the school that believes high airflow cases can be quieter than "silent" ones.

 

12 minutes ago, jzav said:

The suggested cooler seems very similar (also in price) to me

 

Be quiet rates the Pure Rock 2 Black performance at 140W TDP. The AK400 is rated up to 220W. While both are sufficient for the CPU the AK400 should be less expensive. (hu.pcpartpicker.com does not show pricing for the Pure Rock 2.).

 

21 minutes ago, jzav said:

The MSI motherboard is more expensive where I checked, but I don't see any specs that are better than the Asus.

 

Once again hu.pcpartpicker.com doesn't list a price for the B650M-E WiFi. So I have no idea about the relative local price difference or availability of the Asus board.

 

The B650M-E WiFi is an mATX motherboard so it will look small in an ATX case.

 

Spec wise the Asus board is a bit better than the MSI I suggested.

 

33 minutes ago, jzav said:

The RAM has the same specs, DDR5-6000 CL30, was the reason the price only?

 

Yes. Unless one wants lighting or intends to overclock memory beyond its rated speed and timings there is little point in spending more than necessary. There are only a few actual chip manufacturers so often the difference is as much brand popularity as anything else.

 

34 minutes ago, jzav said:

The storage solution seems just a personal preference question for me.

 

A single 2 TB drive offers better wear leveling. While the 990 Pro has better performance than the KC3000, NV3 performance is significantly poorer. So the single drive should offer more even performance.

 

38 minutes ago, jzav said:

The power supply I will definitely consider to change, but please tell me first why my other option (G12 GC-850) is not adequate.

 

It's not inadequate. It does potentially impose a limit on GPU that can be added. It is also non-modular which will likely make things a bit cramped in the wiring space.

 

I don't believe the G12 GC is ATX 3.x compliant. While not strictly necessary, when getting a new system I believe it's always preferable to stick to the latest standards.

 

50 minutes ago, jzav said:

There is a note on pcpartpicker about an "additional 4-pin ATX power

 

It's really only needed for extreme overclocking of a power hungry CPU. Getting a 650W or higher capacity PSU should offer the added connector.

 

1 hour ago, jzav said:

By oversight I mean technical issue / suboptimal solution

 

I do think the build in the OP is sub-optimal. My thinking should be apparent in the comments above. That said, there is no fundamental flaw in the build and it would offer decent performance.

 

1 hour ago, jzav said:

And the graphics card suggestions

 

Given the limitation to Nvidia, you have already identified the likely candidates. The actual choice will come down to budget and availability. My preference is always the latest generation. It offers a longer supported lifetime.

 

Budget: No fixed budget in advance, I am constantly deciding at every component selection whether it is still within reason for me.

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Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Occasional gaming (GTA5 or similar maybe, though I'm not really a gamer), some engineering softwares / IDEs.

 

The current plan:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sBpWfd

 

As for graphics, I'm nost sure, probably a new 4060 or maybe a used 3070? What do you suggest?

The only constraint for this is to be nvidia.

Actually I might build everything else first (if there is no apparent problem with it) and postpone the graphic card for later.

 

There is a note on pcpartpicker about an "additional 4-pin ATX power connector" on the mobo that the psu doesn't have. How seriously should I take this?

Or maybe pick a different psu? Could be nice for future-proofing as well, I suppose... (G12 GC-850 maybe?)

 

In general:

My main question is if the current plan seems OK or if there is an oversight on my side in any important regard.

Basically I just want an all-around pc that can be considered "quite good" in general. I'm not too concerned about performance in the sense that the current "setup" this will replace is a laptop (6700hq / 16gb ram/ gtx950m / sata ssd...), that is becoming more and more annoyingly slow for some tasks. So I think a new world will open for me.

 

This will be my first PC build by the way, as now has the time come when everything is aligned for me to finally not having to use a laptop. 🙂

 

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Try this: (unless the prices aren't that well up to what the market sells)

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  • Because for example 200$ for a "simple" case is quite much, you could find similar/better case for less than 70$.

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PCPartPicker Part List

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor (114790.00Ft @ Alza) 

CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler (15390.00Ft @ Alza) 

Motherboard: MSI PRO B840-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (74490.00Ft @ Alza) 

Memory: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (39290.00Ft @ Alza) 

Storage: Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (63290.00Ft @ Alza) 

Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case (29190.00Ft @ Alza) 

Power Supply: SeaSonic Focus GX ATX 3.0 V4 (2024) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (60990.00Ft @ Alza) 

Total: 397430.00Ft

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-26 17:23 CET+0100

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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Thank you both for your input!

 

The case choice was in big part a result of aesthetic considerations.

 

As for all the other parts, could you please tell me why should they be changed?

-The suggested cooler seems very similar (also in price) to me.

-The MSI motherboard is more expensive where I checked, but I don't see any specs that are better than the Asus.

-The RAM has the same specs, DDR5-6000 CL30, was the reason the price only?

-The storage solution seems just a personal preference question for me.

-The power supply I will definitely consider to change, but please tell me first why my other option (G12 GC-850) is not adequate.

 

Still open questions:

-Even if I will pick a better psu, I would still like to know the answer to this:

3 hours ago, jzav said:

There is a note on pcpartpicker about an "additional 4-pin ATX power connector" on the mobo that the psu doesn't have. How seriously should I take this?

Or maybe pick a different psu? Could be nice for future-proofing as well, I suppose... (G12 GC-850 maybe?)

 

-And the graphics card suggestions

 

-And at last, my original question still holds

3 hours ago, jzav said:

My main question is if the current plan seems OK or if there is an oversight on my side in any important regard.

By oversight I mean technical issue / suboptimal solution.

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9 minutes ago, jzav said:

The case choice was in big part a result of aesthetic considerations

 

The case in the OP build, (Pop) does not include a front panel USB-C port. It also has poorer airflow. I'm of the school that believes high airflow cases can be quieter than "silent" ones.

 

12 minutes ago, jzav said:

The suggested cooler seems very similar (also in price) to me

 

Be quiet rates the Pure Rock 2 Black performance at 140W TDP. The AK400 is rated up to 220W. While both are sufficient for the CPU the AK400 should be less expensive. (hu.pcpartpicker.com does not show pricing for the Pure Rock 2.).

 

21 minutes ago, jzav said:

The MSI motherboard is more expensive where I checked, but I don't see any specs that are better than the Asus.

 

Once again hu.pcpartpicker.com doesn't list a price for the B650M-E WiFi. So I have no idea about the relative local price difference or availability of the Asus board.

 

The B650M-E WiFi is an mATX motherboard so it will look small in an ATX case.

 

Spec wise the Asus board is a bit better than the MSI I suggested.

 

33 minutes ago, jzav said:

The RAM has the same specs, DDR5-6000 CL30, was the reason the price only?

 

Yes. Unless one wants lighting or intends to overclock memory beyond its rated speed and timings there is little point in spending more than necessary. There are only a few actual chip manufacturers so often the difference is as much brand popularity as anything else.

 

34 minutes ago, jzav said:

The storage solution seems just a personal preference question for me.

 

A single 2 TB drive offers better wear leveling. While the 990 Pro has better performance than the KC3000, NV3 performance is significantly poorer. So the single drive should offer more even performance.

 

38 minutes ago, jzav said:

The power supply I will definitely consider to change, but please tell me first why my other option (G12 GC-850) is not adequate.

 

It's not inadequate. It does potentially impose a limit on GPU that can be added. It is also non-modular which will likely make things a bit cramped in the wiring space.

 

I don't believe the G12 GC is ATX 3.x compliant. While not strictly necessary, when getting a new system I believe it's always preferable to stick to the latest standards.

 

50 minutes ago, jzav said:

There is a note on pcpartpicker about an "additional 4-pin ATX power

 

It's really only needed for extreme overclocking of a power hungry CPU. Getting a 650W or higher capacity PSU should offer the added connector.

 

1 hour ago, jzav said:

By oversight I mean technical issue / suboptimal solution

 

I do think the build in the OP is sub-optimal. My thinking should be apparent in the comments above. That said, there is no fundamental flaw in the build and it would offer decent performance.

 

1 hour ago, jzav said:

And the graphics card suggestions

 

Given the limitation to Nvidia, you have already identified the likely candidates. The actual choice will come down to budget and availability. My preference is always the latest generation. It offers a longer supported lifetime.

 

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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Thank you for the details!

 

Cooler: I'm convinced, the AK400 it is.

RAM: Same, I will buy the one you suggested.

SSD: Right, I didn't think about wear leveling, but it makes sense, so it will be a single 2TB drive. I just had a habit of having two separate drives, but there is no reason for that anyway. Although I'll stick to the 990 Pro, just the 2TB version.

Motherboard: Remains the Asus, there is a place where it's cheaper then the alza link, so it's fine.

Case: I see your point, but the overall look is way too important for me and I simply can't find anything else I like. The front panel USB-C is not important for me right now, but would it ever be, there is an optional separate cable for that.

Power supply: This was the hardest decision so far, but yes, I agree with the "latest standards" approach and the modularity as well. At first I wanted a modular one anyway, just didn't have more reasons to go for it at the time.

 

So the final config:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (114390.00Ft @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (15390.00Ft @ Alza)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650M-E WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (80790.00Ft @ Alza)
Memory: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (39290.00Ft @ Alza)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (73390.00Ft @ Alza)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Silent ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: SeaSonic Focus GX ATX 3.0 V4 (2024) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (60990.00Ft @ Alza)
Total: 384240.00Ft
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-27 20:31 CET+0100

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