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Why does CS2 look SO trash, absolute garbage compared to what it should look like? I have a 7500f, 3090 and a 360Hz monitor, and when I play CS I literally get motion sickness from playing it. I have everything on max besides MSAA at x2. In some places I get 300FPS+, and in other it literally drops to like 150, with neither the GPU or CPU being fully utilized, the CPU is at like 50% and the GPU at 70% (sometimes 90%). I did NOT pay for this PC to have a barely better experience than on my 1050ti before that

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19 minutes ago, MiszS said:

Why does CS2 look SO trash, absolute garbage compared to what it should look like? I have a 7500f, 3090 and a 360Hz monitor, and when I play CS I literally get motion sickness from playing it. I have everything on max besides MSAA at x2. In some places I get 300FPS+, and in other it literally drops to like 150, with neither the GPU or CPU being fully utilized, the CPU is at like 50% and the GPU at 70% (sometimes 90%). I did NOT pay for this PC to have a barely better experience than on my 1050ti before that

What is your power profile set to?

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2 minutes ago, MiszS said:

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Wow, that's weird. With the same settings as yours, my 2060S manages 150-200fps, so there's a good chance the problem is on your end. 

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11 minutes ago, Timme said:

Wow, that's weird. With the same settings as yours, my 2060S manages 150-200fps, so there's a good chance the problem is on your end. 

Well yeah that's what I'm saying, my PC doesn't perform like it should, and I have no idea why

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3 minutes ago, MiszS said:

Well yeah that's what I'm saying, my PC doesn't perform like it should, and I have no idea why

Do you have motion blur on?
Also could you share a screen shot or anything of the sort if possible?

Btw CS2 is poorly made and optimized cause valve doesnt really... how do you say "doesnt give 2 shits about the player cause the whales fund the low effort cosmetics and game they make like with TF2 where the game is nearly unplayable" politetly?

TL DR it might just be that the engine aka source engine 2 is just shit since we know from source engine 1 that its so shit that for its games like TF2 you have to do stupid shit to make it work (for example in the files of TF2 there is a png of a coconut and if you delete it you cant even launch the game cause the source code is a fking mess)

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2 minutes ago, Millios said:

Do you have motion blur on?
Also could you share a screen shot or anything of the sort if possible?

Btw CS2 is poorly made and optimized cause valve doesnt really... how do you say "doesnt give 2 shits about the player cause the whales fund the low effort cosmetics and game they make like with TF2 where the game is nearly unplayable" politetly?

TL DR it might just be that the engine aka source engine 2 is just shit since we know from source engine 1 that its so shit that for its games like TF2 you have to do stupid shit to make it work (for example in the files of TF2 there is a png of a coconut and if you delete it you cant even launch the game cause the source code is a fking mess)

There isn't even a motion blur setting in CS2

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1 minute ago, MiszS said:

There isn't even a motion blur setting in CS2

My bad then

Havent played any CS in a while cause of the many MANY hackers since CS1 "leaked" its source code so I cant remember it that well but what you described resembled motiob blur since the smudging give me motion sickness too

But the source code statement probably holds more weight thx to valve giving up on making games good and rather making a profit

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Just now, Millios said:

My bad then

Havent played any CS in a while cause of the many MANY hackers since CS1 "leaked" its source code so I cant remember it that well but what you described resembled motiob blur since the smudging give me motion sickness too

But the source code statement probably holds more weight thx to valve giving up on making games good and rather making a profit

Feels just like terrible 1% lows, but even the average FPS is often less than what it should be

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Just now, MiszS said:

Feels just like terrible 1% lows, but even the average FPS is often less than what it should be

If it's stutters it might be a matter of lag compensasion and source engine spaghetti

I'm basing all of this on TF2 so i cant say i am 100% and that its my attempt at trying to explain it so pls bare with me and take what I say with a grain of salt

But there you can see snaps or "stutters" due to how servers are not connecting players 1:1 and what you see isnt necceserally what others see so the movement to compensate with the lag you and others have can snap, speed up and slow down (to a certain degree). In theory such issues are not present in source engine 2 but with how projectiles work there and how it seems to be a glorified update rather than a better game and it's likely that the engine they made just lets them have better graphics rather than new physics

For a bit of a better explanation I'd suggest you watch videos about fatmagic (a prolific sniper player on tf2) by youtubers like vorobey as they explain how source engine shenanigans can feel weird and unfair while being just that valve cant make shit and make it work

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1 hour ago, MiszS said:

Why does CS2 look SO trash, absolute garbage compared to what it should look like? I have a 7500f, 3090 and a 360Hz monitor, and when I play CS I literally get motion sickness from playing it. I have everything on max besides MSAA at x2. In some places I get 300FPS+, and in other it literally drops to like 150, with neither the GPU or CPU being fully utilized, the CPU is at like 50% and the GPU at 70% (sometimes 90%). I did NOT pay for this PC to have a barely better experience than on my 1050ti before that

So your XMP is on?

 

I think the problem actually might be having everything on Max, also what about the 3090 temps?

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Well it's somewhat older hardware, also online games more CPU and memory intensive. It seems more on game side at least from what I've seen from some saying DM is bad as it's more demanding. 

But yeah, turn all settings to lowest and turn off any post processing like AA as that does add to input and blur.

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2 hours ago, Doobeedoo said:

Well it's somewhat older hardware, also online games more CPU and memory intensive. It seems more on game side at least from what I've seen from some saying DM is bad as it's more demanding. 

But yeah, turn all settings to lowest and turn off any post processing like AA as that does add to input and blur.

I didn't buy a 3090 to play on lowest settings, i literally get a smoother gameplay in cyberpunk with DLSS than in CS2

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1 minute ago, MiszS said:

I didn't buy a 3090 to play on lowest settings, i literally get a smoother gameplay in cyberpunk with DLSS than in CS2

Try all medium settings.

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1 hour ago, MiszS said:

I didn't buy a 3090 to play on lowest settings, i literally get a smoother gameplay in cyberpunk with DLSS than in CS2

Yeah but it's a competitive game so performance matters and graphics are nothing special in that game anyway. Also you'll be CPU limited. Can try various settings. Cyberpunk though it's mostly GPU bound so yeah makes sense. But also check what's up lately with the game as I've seen number of people complain about performance in CS2 lately so yeah. 

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On 1/26/2025 at 6:26 PM, Doobeedoo said:

Yeah but it's a competitive game so performance matters and graphics are nothing special in that game anyway. Also you'll be CPU limited. Can try various settings. Cyberpunk though it's mostly GPU bound so yeah makes sense. But also check what's up lately with the game as I've seen number of people complain about performance in CS2 lately so yeah. 

I think people underestimate how graphics settings affect fps, some things just take a chunk of time to render, and mostly all things have to be rendered or processed before the final image is sent, the GPU doesn't really send partially done image.

 

Lot of people used to, and maybe still do about performance of Fortnite, on high end system. Might be related.

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Are you CPU limited or GPU limited?
Does it still drop to 150 If you use Low or Medium preset?

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11 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Are you CPU limited or GPU limited?
Does it still drop to 150 If you use Low or Medium preset?

I get around 90% GPU usage, and higher FPS on lower settings, so that means it's a GPU bottleneck, right? I also noticed that the big FPS drops only happen on new maps like the train remastered 

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1 hour ago, xAcid9 said:

Are you CPU limited or GPU limited?
Does it still drop to 150 If you use Low or Medium preset?

well never mind, I just played again, and GPU sits at like 60-70% on vertigo, BUT THE CPU IS AT 50%, it literally sits at like 4.7GHz, when it can do 5.15 without any overclocks, wtf is wrong with my PC? The drops are as bad as 120FPS average, not 1% lows

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Have you checked the temps on the CPU? Per core utilisation ok? RAM usage during gameplay, drive activity etc.?

 

Usually with weird performance stuff it is sensible to start with all low, to see if the game even scales with settings or if something else is going on.

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13 minutes ago, GarlicDeliverySystem said:

Have you checked the temps on the CPU? Per core utilisation ok? RAM usage during gameplay, drive activity etc.?

 

Usually with weird performance stuff it is sensible to start with all low, to see if the game even scales with settings or if something else is going on.

The ram usage is like 12GB with the broser open, I have 32 so it shouldn't be a problem. The CPU sits at like 50 degrees, the disk usage is pretty low, but again it's a gen 4 NVMe SSD, it can't be the problem here

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1 hour ago, MiszS said:

well never mind, I just played again, and GPU sits at like 60-70% on vertigo, BUT THE CPU IS AT 50%, it literally sits at like 4.7GHz, when it can do 5.15 without any overclocks, wtf is wrong with my PC? The drops are as bad as 120FPS average, not 1% lows

Maybe the game/map is still unoptimize.

I tried Vertigo on Low preset@2560x1080, i occasionally get CPU bottleneck but it was around ~200fps minimum and that's with OSD+screen recording.

40% max CPU usage though, maybe you have heavy background processes. 

 

 

Try do a fresh install on different drive/partition.

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