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Budget (including currency): Rp 7.000.000 (Equivalent to USD $432.74)

Country: Indonesia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming (Marvel Rivals, Cyberpunk, Monster Hunter, CS, Valo, League of Legends)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

I have a  RTX 3060 12gb as my GPU and im currently running an intel i5-10400f and 16gb RAM max speed that i can get from this CPU and Mobo is 2667 MHz and 650w PSU 80+ bronze.

 

Im planning to upgrade my CPU to a Ryzen 5 7600x with new Mobo and Ram, where i lived i can get the 7600x for around Rp3.000.000 - Rp3.600.000 ish (USD $188 - $222) Mobo and Ram would cost around $250 ish. I was wondering if i should upgrade my CPU and if the games im playing would have substantial FPS increase or not since im still gonna run the RTX 3060 for another half a year or even a year to buy a RX 7900 GRE, maybe waiting even longer for the RTX 5070 or RX 9070 to be a viable option.

 

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6 minutes ago, Siyke said:

Im planning to upgrade my CPU to a Ryzen 5 7600x with new Mobo and Ram, where i lived i can get the 7600x for around Rp3.000.000 - Rp3.600.000 ish (USD $188 - $222) Mobo and Ram would cost around $250 ish. I was wondering if i should upgrade my CPU and if the games im playing would have substantial FPS increase or not since im still gonna run the RTX 3060 for another half a year or even a year to buy a RX 7900 GRE, maybe waiting even longer for the RTX 5070 or RX 9070 to be a viable option.

Some might see few FPS increase, or overall better fps consistency and better 1% lows, etc.

 

The question is is it worth for you?

 

Also what about 7600 or 7500F?

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current PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti [further details on my profile]

PCs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
  3. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti
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18 minutes ago, podkall said:

Some might see few FPS increase, or overall better fps consistency and better 1% lows, etc.

 

The question is is it worth for you?

 

Also what about 7600 or 7500F?

The 7600 is only about like USD $10 - $15 cheaper than the 7600x while the 7500f is around $125.
How bout just upgrading the RTX 3060 rather than the CPU? Like an RX 7800xt, it's about the same price if i were to replace the CPU MOBO and RAM altogether but i think my i5 10400f would severely bottleneck the 7800xt no (currently using a 1080p 144hz monitor)?

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1 hour ago, Siyke said:

The 7600 is only about like USD $10 - $15 cheaper than the 7600x while the 7500f is around $125.
How bout just upgrading the RTX 3060 rather than the CPU? Like an RX 7800xt, it's about the same price if i were to replace the CPU MOBO and RAM altogether but i think my i5 10400f would severely bottleneck the 7800xt no (currently using a 1080p 144hz monitor)?

Well, it depends on what you're looking for,

 

the 7800 XT will be able to handle higher graphics settings, possibly more effects going on on screen without substantial FPS drop, of course graphics aren't entirely handled by the GPU, so take the comment about effects with grain of salt,

 

the CPU upgrade can improve overall consistency, because the "info feed" of CPU for GPU increases and opens, CPU essentially tells GPU what should happen, what's happening on the screen, location, directions, etc. etc., and GPU draws it,

 

the GPU performs calculations of it's own, and uses VRAM to store things like textures, but still it needs to know what's going on, which is CPU's job, for example things like object movement, or camera movement, the GPU can't know unless CPU tells it is XYZ location, or turned XYZ degrees view.

 

This is why faster CPU can improve 1% lows and consistency because it will be able to send more "relevant" information for GPU, allowing it to crank more fps and ask for even more info.

 

Faster GPU then allows the other half of the interaction, textures, effects, filtering, possibly upscaling, anti-aliasing, shadows, etc. etc., faster GPU obviously will be able to more consistently and easily handle same and higher resolutions, and most likely ask for more info from the CPU, and of course if the 10400F can send bit more info the fps will also improve.

 

So it will depend on that, and of course it will depend on which games we're talking about.

 

  • But first, 7500F vs 7600 vs 7600x, there is almost no difference once you enable PBO, all 3 will simply clock as fast as possible, they are very similar in design, the x is just "higher quality", it can clock faster from factory, but that doesn't stop the 7600 to match it in performance or fps delivered once both are running PBO in side by side comparison.

 

CPU upgrade benefits,

 

depending how loaded the 10400F and 3060 are, you can see up to 50-100fps or even more increase, in averages, if you upgrade the CPU, in games like Valorant, CS2, League of Legends, and similar "simpler" graphics, esports games.

 

Other games like Marvel Rivals or OW2 for example could crank few more fps from this aswell, about 20-50fps more, since those games are bit more graphically demanding.

 

Overall on most games you'd likely notice more smoother frame times, and less likeliness of any stutters, micro-stutters or the reduction of fps in general.

 

GPU upgrade benefits,

 

depending on game, this could potentially give you very little fps increase in the esports games, possibly moderate amount, again it depends how loaded the 10400F is,

 

with a better GPU, you'd see yourself easily doing things like enabling higher graphics settings in League of Legends for example, if you're not rocking Very High setting, with 7800 XT you could essentially move there and suffer basically no fps hit whatsoever, or not enough for it to matter and lose the competitive edge.

 

CS2 is bit different, while very CPU bound, it is much more demanding than CS:GO was with it's new graphics, so compared to Valorant, CS2 would probably see lower fps increase or lower headroom for higher settings without impacting the fps significantly.

 

The more graphically demanding games would be able to ran at higher graphics settings before you're back at 10400F+3060 fps, if even that, of course depends on game, things like RT in Cyberpunk will probably not allow you to run everything on Max, but still the bigger GPU will let run more generous details on the graphics.

 

 

The decision is yours,

 

I have to tell you though, that with a GPU upgrade I'd check on your PSU, if it's a good brand and model, some are better than others and it's a good idea not to use low-end PSU with a higher end GPU.

 

600W is enough for 7800 XT, but it's quite close, how smooth and safe the PC will be depends on the quality of the PSU, not it's wattage or Bronze/Gold/Platinum, that's just efficiency rating and doesn't really determine the actual quality of the PSU.

 

With CPU upgrade you're looking at new MB and RAM, with GPU upgrade potential PSU upgrade unless your current PSU is a good brand and model, if you're able to find/read the brand and model I can tell you how good it is.

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Feel free: To ask any question, no matter what question it is, I will try to answer. I know a lot about PCs but not everything.

current PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti [further details on my profile]

PCs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
  3. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti
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24 minutes ago, podkall said:

Well, it depends on what you're looking for,

 

the 7800 XT will be able to handle higher graphics settings, possibly more effects going on on screen without substantial FPS drop, of course graphics aren't entirely handled by the GPU, so take the comment about effects with grain of salt,

 

the CPU upgrade can improve overall consistency, because the "info feed" of CPU for GPU increases and opens, CPU essentially tells GPU what should happen, what's happening on the screen, location, directions, etc. etc., and GPU draws it,

 

the GPU performs calculations of it's own, and uses VRAM to store things like textures, but still it needs to know what's going on, which is CPU's job, for example things like object movement, or camera movement, the GPU can't know unless CPU tells it is XYZ location, or turned XYZ degrees view.

 

This is why faster CPU can improve 1% lows and consistency because it will be able to send more "relevant" information for GPU, allowing it to crank more fps and ask for even more info.

 

Faster GPU then allows the other half of the interaction, textures, effects, filtering, possibly upscaling, anti-aliasing, shadows, etc. etc., faster GPU obviously will be able to more consistently and easily handle same and higher resolutions, and most likely ask for more info from the CPU, and of course if the 10400F can send bit more info the fps will also improve.

 

So it will depend on that, and of course it will depend on which games we're talking about.

 

  • But first, 7500F vs 7600 vs 7600x, there is almost no difference once you enable PBO, all 3 will simply clock as fast as possible, they are very similar in design, the x is just "higher quality", it can clock faster from factory, but that doesn't stop the 7600 to match it in performance or fps delivered once both are running PBO in side by side comparison.

 

CPU upgrade benefits,

 

depending how loaded the 10400F and 3060 are, you can see up to 50-100fps or even more increase, in averages, if you upgrade the CPU, in games like Valorant, CS2, League of Legends, and similar "simpler" graphics, esports games.

 

Other games like Marvel Rivals or OW2 for example could crank few more fps from this aswell, about 20-50fps more, since those games are bit more graphically demanding.

 

Overall on most games you'd likely notice more smoother frame times, and less likeliness of any stutters, micro-stutters or the reduction of fps in general.

 

GPU upgrade benefits,

 

depending on game, this could potentially give you very little fps increase in the esports games, possibly moderate amount, again it depends how loaded the 10400F is,

 

with a better GPU, you'd see yourself easily doing things like enabling higher graphics settings in League of Legends for example, if you're not rocking Very High setting, with 7800 XT you could essentially move there and suffer basically no fps hit whatsoever, or not enough for it to matter and lose the competitive edge.

 

CS2 is bit different, while very CPU bound, it is much more demanding than CS:GO was with it's new graphics, so compared to Valorant, CS2 would probably see lower fps increase or lower headroom for higher settings without impacting the fps significantly.

 

The more graphically demanding games would be able to ran at higher graphics settings before you're back at 10400F+3060 fps, if even that, of course depends on game, things like RT in Cyberpunk will probably not allow you to run everything on Max, but still the bigger GPU will let run more generous details on the graphics.

 

 

The decision is yours,

 

I have to tell you though, that with a GPU upgrade I'd check on your PSU, if it's a good brand and model, some are better than others and it's a good idea not to use low-end PSU with a higher end GPU.

 

600W is enough for 7800 XT, but it's quite close, how smooth and safe the PC will be depends on the quality of the PSU, not it's wattage or Bronze/Gold/Platinum, that's just efficiency rating and doesn't really determine the actual quality of the PSU.

 

With CPU upgrade you're looking at new MB and RAM, with GPU upgrade potential PSU upgrade unless your current PSU is a good brand and model, if you're able to find/read the brand and model I can tell you how good it is.

o wow thanks for the complete information details, i appreciate it. My PSU brand model is the thermaltake smart bx1 650w 80 plus bronze

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4 minutes ago, Siyke said:

o wow thanks for the complete information details, i appreciate it. My PSU brand model is the thermaltake smart bx1 650w 80 plus bronze

I think you should get better PSU before upgrading GPU, this one's not bad, but for high-end PC, it's not going to be worth the risk:

 

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current PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti [further details on my profile]

PCs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
  3. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti
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