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Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 4070 Super

 

Been offered a second hand set of:

 

Ryzen 7 7700X

Corsair Vengeance 6000 32GB RAM kit (2x16)

MSI B650 Tomahawk Motherboard

and a Dark Rock 5 Cooler

 

It's only been used for about 6 months.  The guy tried selling me the whole PC with a 3080 10GB in it.  I wasn't interested initially other than maybe helping him sell it but he sold the 3080 for £350 to another friend and has now offered me the platform above for 230 quid (which is crazy low).  @Skyesgaming and I are in the process of upping our GPUs to 4070 Supers so if I can sell my 2070 Super for near that I might take it off him.  What do you guys think of this pairing?

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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5 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Decent price, I mean if it works then great price. Should be great for 1440p.

He's a work college so I don't think he'd sell me something intentionally dodgy...now just to convince 'The Missus...'

 

1 minute ago, Shimejii said:

230 is more then fine for those parts as long as they work o.o

Yeah it's a great price

 

love you lots and lots babygirl xx

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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My advice? Godspeed!

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current PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti [further details on my profile]

PCs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
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New those parts are ~£500, so £230 is definitely a very fair price to ask.... probably about £280-£300 for the CPU, RAM and motherboard if you bought each of those 2nd hand.

 

 

Main rig: Ryzen 7 7800X3D, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb Teamgroup Create-T DDR5-6000C30, AC Freezer3 280mm AIO, Asrock Steel Legend X670E, M.2 2Tb Samsung 990 Pro, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, SATA 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, MSI MPG 271QRX (27"/1440P/360Hz), Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G Pro X Superlight 2, Audezee Maxwell.

Games room "TV rig": 5800X3D, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS Prime B450M, RTX4080S w/iChill AIO, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 500Gb & 1Tb WDSN550, 8Tb WD80EFAX, BeQuiet Straight 1000W,  LianLi O11 Air Mini, LG G4 (55"/4K/120Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, LG G1 Soundbar / Audezee Maxwell.

Lounge HTPC: Minisforum UM760 Slim, Ryzen 5 7640HS, 16Gb DDR5, 1Tb M.2, LG C2 (42"/4K/120Hz), generic wireless remote/mouse.

NAS: Synology 1812+, 3Gb RAM, 3x16Tb Seagate EXOS RAID5, 1Tb MX500 cache, 3x3Tb WDRED RAID6, 120Gb SSD cache. 

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8 minutes ago, BahnStormer said:

New those parts are ~£500, so £230 is definitely a very fair price to ask.... probably about £280-£300 for the CPU, RAM and motherboard if you bought each of those 2nd hand.

 

 

CPU alone is 200pounds

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current PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti [further details on my profile]

PCs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
  3. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti
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4 hours ago, podkall said:

CPU alone is 200pounds

Yep.... in terms of 2nd hand prices, eBay auctions are closing £180-£200, so I was going on ~£200 for the CPU since they tend to hold their value a little better... (roughtly 2/3 of a retail price of £283).

 

Then £45-£50 for the motherboard: there are better new boards for ~£100-£120, so half price seemed fair, since motherboards seldom hold their value as much as there's more to damage / more to go wrong, etc.... so lack of warranty is more of a risk.

 

If the RAM is CL30, then maybe £50-£60 (2/3 of retail), but since the latency wasn't mentioned and most Corsair budget stuff is CL36, I was thinking £40-£45 for that.... as recently as 2 months ago there was better DDR5 6000 CL30 RAM (Teamgroup T-Create / GSkill FlareX5) for ~£90.... current price bump to ~£100-£105 is likely very temporary.

 

And the cooler included too. Saves £20-£30 on a budget cooler and that's a fairly decent one from what I've heard.

 

£230 is a good, fair price.... borderline "mates rates".... I'd gladly buy it for that, even if the RAM is CL36.

Main rig: Ryzen 7 7800X3D, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb Teamgroup Create-T DDR5-6000C30, AC Freezer3 280mm AIO, Asrock Steel Legend X670E, M.2 2Tb Samsung 990 Pro, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, SATA 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, MSI MPG 271QRX (27"/1440P/360Hz), Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G Pro X Superlight 2, Audezee Maxwell.

Games room "TV rig": 5800X3D, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS Prime B450M, RTX4080S w/iChill AIO, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 500Gb & 1Tb WDSN550, 8Tb WD80EFAX, BeQuiet Straight 1000W,  LianLi O11 Air Mini, LG G4 (55"/4K/120Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, LG G1 Soundbar / Audezee Maxwell.

Lounge HTPC: Minisforum UM760 Slim, Ryzen 5 7640HS, 16Gb DDR5, 1Tb M.2, LG C2 (42"/4K/120Hz), generic wireless remote/mouse.

NAS: Synology 1812+, 3Gb RAM, 3x16Tb Seagate EXOS RAID5, 1Tb MX500 cache, 3x3Tb WDRED RAID6, 120Gb SSD cache. 

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8 minutes ago, BahnStormer said:

Yep.... in terms of 2nd hand prices, eBay auctions are closing £180-£200, so I was going on ~£200 for the CPU since they tend to hold their value a little better... (roughtly 2/3 of a retail price of £283).

If you're optimistic, CPUs last ~10 years, so their re-sell value on used market doesn't always drop down much

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current PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti [further details on my profile]

PCs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
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8 hours ago, podkall said:

CPUs last ~10 years

Yes, most CPU's will last 10 years plus (RaptorLake aside!), but that does not mean they retain value after the initial purchase. This is especially true once they're superseded on that platform.

 

Based on everything I can see, 2nd hand CPUs seem to track around 2/3 of the latest retail (new) price.

 

I would expect Ryzen 5000 to keep tracking at 2/3 as it is the last AM4 upgrade that people can make, but Ryzen 7000 is now nearly 3 years old and their AM5 replacement has been out for ~6 months.

I think 2/3 of current retail is a fair valuation and that is reflected in the eBay auction closing prices. Hence £283 becomes just under £200.

 

@SimplyChunk
£230 is a really decent deal, especially as it's from a trusted source. Go convince the missus and I hope you get it... it's a really solid all-rounder CPU!

Main rig: Ryzen 7 7800X3D, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb Teamgroup Create-T DDR5-6000C30, AC Freezer3 280mm AIO, Asrock Steel Legend X670E, M.2 2Tb Samsung 990 Pro, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, SATA 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, MSI MPG 271QRX (27"/1440P/360Hz), Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G Pro X Superlight 2, Audezee Maxwell.

Games room "TV rig": 5800X3D, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS Prime B450M, RTX4080S w/iChill AIO, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 500Gb & 1Tb WDSN550, 8Tb WD80EFAX, BeQuiet Straight 1000W,  LianLi O11 Air Mini, LG G4 (55"/4K/120Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, LG G1 Soundbar / Audezee Maxwell.

Lounge HTPC: Minisforum UM760 Slim, Ryzen 5 7640HS, 16Gb DDR5, 1Tb M.2, LG C2 (42"/4K/120Hz), generic wireless remote/mouse.

NAS: Synology 1812+, 3Gb RAM, 3x16Tb Seagate EXOS RAID5, 1Tb MX500 cache, 3x3Tb WDRED RAID6, 120Gb SSD cache. 

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1 hour ago, BahnStormer said:

Yes, most CPU's will last 10 years plus (RaptorLake aside!), but that does not mean they retain value after the initial purchase. This is especially true once they're superseded on that platform.

That's only true of the future CPUs start out-performing older ones,

 

while this isn't the most fair comparison, or not too old of a CPU, it still shows,

 

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Feel free: To ask any question, no matter what question it is, I will try to answer. I know a lot about PCs but not everything.

current PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti [further details on my profile]

PCs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
  3. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti
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