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New PC Build, need help with the final fine tuneing

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4 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

Ah thank you, ill be getting to seeing that tomorrow

Looks like the MSI MPG X870E Edge TI WiFi Motherboard is brand new (released on 16th of January 2025), and also does not have any lane sharing for the GPU, like the NOVA. Probably a decent choice as well.

Budget (including currency): 10000-15000 DKK (1380-2070 USD, 1340-2010,5 Euro)

Country: Denmark

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: DCS World, Modded Assetto Corsa, Titanfall 2, Arma Reforger, Monster Hunter World / Wilds, Strinova, Unity (Making games for school projects, so Blender could also be used.)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

So im upgrading from a prebuild system i got a little over 4 years ago. It has a Intel i5-10400f/h (cant remember, writing from laptop), a 2060 and 16gb of ddr4. My current setup is two monitors, an Asus 27" curved display and a 24" Samsung display both running at 1080p. 

When i started looking to upgrade i originally looked at an Intel Core Ultra 7 265k, but after a little more research i found out it had some problems that maby where fixed. So not really wanting to take any chanses i started looking at AMD CPUs, and the current ones im between choosing are either a 9700X or a 9900X. I feel that the 9800X3D is a bit too overprized, but yes i know it is the current best CPU for gaming. 

For the systems i have made 2 PCPartPicker lists, they should be the same, just with the different CPUs:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s8YZ2x (9700X list)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GbX7C8 (9900X list)

A little ekstra contecst: I alredy have bougt the case, and the GPU is just a stand in for a Yeston 4070 Ti-Super i also already have bought (i did it before the 50-series got ananunced, and was more just a rumor) 

Im also thinking about upgrading my displays so they can run QHD insted of 1080p. 

 

I would gladly acceppt help with adjusting my parts, but i ideally want to stay on the newest gen CPUs. GPU and case cant really be changed, so they are also set in stone.. Other then that feedback, sugestions or changes to my parts list are gladly accepted. 

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When I did gamedev at uni, any performance on good hardware was nuked due to bad optimsation due to lack of knowledge. I don't think that's something you should worry about. Lack of RAM and storage however were issues I'd run into that weren't related to the nature of learning.

 

Us Danish PCPP not US. They have different prices and parts availability. In one way more simply because they're a bigger market but also in a way less because they keep banning companies thus their product. Consider a PC like this. 7500F has a great price right now:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor  (1299.00kr @ Proshop) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 36 CPU Cooler  (272.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (1271.00kr @ Proshop) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (804.00kr @ Alternate) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S50 Core 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (494.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Storage: Kingston NV2 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (1784.00kr @ Proshop) 
Video Card: Gainward Phoenix GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (6985.00kr @ Alternate) 
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case  (564.00kr @ Dustin Home) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD-GM PG5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (766.00kr @ Proshop) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 Max 81.04 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  (341.00kr @ Alternate) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 Max 81.04 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  (341.00kr @ Alternate) 
Total: 14921.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-20 10:08 CET+0100

 

Of course, latest gen is also an option:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  (2852.00kr @ Proshop) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 36 CPU Cooler  (272.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B850M GAMING X WIFI6E Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (1790.00kr @ Proshop) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (804.00kr @ Alternate) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S50 Core 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (494.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Storage: Kingston NV2 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (1784.00kr @ Proshop) 
Video Card: Gainward Phoenix GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (6985.00kr @ Alternate) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (568.00kr @ Proshop) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD-GM PG5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (766.00kr @ Proshop) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 Max 81.04 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  (341.00kr @ Alternate) 
Total: 16656.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-20 10:13 CET+0100

Desktop: Ryzen 7 5800X3D - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3600MHz 32GB Kingston Fury - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 1TB P3 - 4TB HDD - RX6800 - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta - Silent Wings Pro 4's enjoyer

SetupZowie XL2740 27.0" 240hz - Roccat Burt Pro OG Corsair K70 browns - PC38X - Mackie CR5X's

Current build on PCPartPicker

 

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1 hour ago, Cake Monster said:

I alredy have bougt the case, and the GPU is just a stand in for a Yeston 4070 Ti-Super i also already have bought (i did it before the 50-series got ananunced, and was more just a rumor) 

There's an option in pcpartpicker to set price to 0, if it can help with managing the "remaining" budget, rather than using total budget.

 

49 minutes ago, venomtail said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor  (1299.00kr @ Proshop) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 36 CPU Cooler  (272.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (1271.00kr @ Proshop) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (804.00kr @ Alternate) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S50 Core 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (494.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Storage: Kingston NV2 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (1784.00kr @ Proshop) 
Video Card: Gainward Phoenix GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (6985.00kr @ Alternate) 
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case  (564.00kr @ Dustin Home) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD-GM PG5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (766.00kr @ Proshop) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 Max 81.04 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  (341.00kr @ Alternate) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 Max 81.04 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  (341.00kr @ Alternate) 
Total: 14921.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-20 10:08 CET+0100

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor  (1299.00kr @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE ARGB 58 CFM CPU Cooler  (268.00kr @ Proshop)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (1271.00kr @ Proshop)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (1699.00kr @ Proshop)
Storage: *Kingston Fury Renegade 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (1141.00kr @ Computersalg)
Video Card: Asus PRIME OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (~7500.00kr)
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (~700.00kr)
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 850 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (916.00kr @ Alternate)
Total: ~14794.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-20 11:01 CET+0100

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Feel free: To ask any question, no matter what question it is, I will try to answer. I know a lot about PCs but not everything.

current PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti [further details on my profile]

PCs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
  3. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti
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1 hour ago, venomtail said:

any performance on good hardware was nuked due to bad optimsation due to lack of knowledge.

Yup!!!!!! Thats why a main point for second years end project was to get a game to run on extreme low powered hardware. Ours was based around the limits of a game boy color. Was ROUGH but we got a ducktales 2 clone made and running

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8 hours ago, venomtail said:

Us Danish PCPP not US. They have different prices and parts availability. In one way more simply because they're a bigger market but also in a way less because they keep banning companies thus their product. Consider a PC like this. 7500F has a great price right now:

 

I forgot i could change it to search the Danish markets instead. But if i can ask to one of your two PCPP lists, i would personally prefer to get the newer gen CPU so thats the one im most interrested in. Could i also ask for you to elaborate on the choises of components you chose over the parts i had found myself?

Edit 1: 

Also i already have a case and GPU so they wont be nessesary to elaborate on. 

Edit 2:

This should be my fixed PCPP list for the 9700X CPU, if you want to compare:

https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8mCX2x

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2 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

I forgot i could change it to search the Danish markets instead. But if i can ask to one of your two PCPP lists, i would personally prefer to get the newer gen CPU so thats the one im most interrested in. Could i also ask for you to elaborate on the choises of components you chose over the parts i had found myself?

Edit 1: 

Also i already have a case and GPU so they wont be nessesary to elaborate on. 

Edit 2:

This should be my fixed PCPP list for the 9700X CPU, if you want to compare:

https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8mCX2x

  • 500 Krona for that Thermalright cooler is pricy.
  • Corsair has fallen off, become a jucky brand for me especially after they went public for investors. The quality and attention to detail is gone. Basically at all price or performance points Corsair's getting beaten. Just riding the wave of their past reputation.
  • I think motherboard's overpriced. That Gigabyte board does 99% of the stuff that ASUS board can at half the price.

I optimised the storage how I'd like it, Gen 5 too ahead of the curve. Skimmed over the part where you said you bought the case and GPU already. RAM and PSU was indifferent, rated well on reviewer sites. That Corsair PSU lacks a true 12VHPWR cable unlike that one alternative.

Desktop: Ryzen 7 5800X3D - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3600MHz 32GB Kingston Fury - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 1TB P3 - 4TB HDD - RX6800 - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta - Silent Wings Pro 4's enjoyer

SetupZowie XL2740 27.0" 240hz - Roccat Burt Pro OG Corsair K70 browns - PC38X - Mackie CR5X's

Current build on PCPartPicker

 

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If you are going for an x870e motherboard and paying >$300 US, the better choice is ASRock x870e NOVA, since it does not have any lane sharing for Nvme slots and GPU PCIE slot, includes a back plate and more goodies. Have to make sure to get it at MSRP though. It's being scalped a lot due to big demand.

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1 hour ago, Kagaratsch said:

If you are going for an x870e motherboard and paying >$300 US, the better choice is ASRock x870e NOVA, since it does not have any lane sharing for Nvme slots and GPU PCIE slot, includes a back plate and more goodies. Have to make sure to get it at MSRP though. It's being scalped a lot due to big demand.

So that would be this on my preferred retailer:

https://www.proshop.dk/Bundkort/ASRock-X870E-NOVA-WIFI-Bundkort-AMD-X870E-AMD-AM5-socket-DDR5-RAM-ATX/3301912 (Danish webshop)

 

Just so im up to speed, whats the pros and cons of this compared to the MSI one i currently have in mind? I find it a little confusing when trying to compare the diffrences, and the part on the ASRock board where there is no lane sharing i dont really get, could you explain it?

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3 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

So that would be this on my preferred retailer:

https://www.proshop.dk/Bundkort/ASRock-X870E-NOVA-WIFI-Bundkort-AMD-X870E-AMD-AM5-socket-DDR5-RAM-ATX/3301912 (Danish webshop)

 

Just so im up to speed, whats the pros and cons of this compared to the MSI one i currently have in mind? I find it a little confusing when trying to compare the diffrences, and the part on the ASRock board where there is no lane sharing i dont really get, could you explain it?

Hope it's fine to link youtube here on the forums:

 

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4 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

Ah thank you, ill be getting to seeing that tomorrow

Looks like the MSI MPG X870E Edge TI WiFi Motherboard is brand new (released on 16th of January 2025), and also does not have any lane sharing for the GPU, like the NOVA. Probably a decent choice as well.

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2 hours ago, Kagaratsch said:

Looks like the MSI MPG X870E Edge TI WiFi Motherboard is brand new (released on 16th of January 2025), and also does not have any lane sharing for the GPU, like the NOVA. Probably a decent choice as well.

Probably going to look into this myself, but thank you for the recommendation. From the retailer where I'm most certain to buy there is around a 10 dollar prize difference, so I'll probably just go with the cheaper board when I'm buying (depending on discounts and so on)

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