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2 minutes ago, freikugel4 said:

I am positive I used the correct bios. Not to mention that when I got the new motherboard I had an updated version of the bios, and it wouldn't even boot until I flashed back to the old bios that my previous (damaged) motherboard had, that I downloaded from MSI's site. I didn't update that one, it was on the new motherboard when I got it.

are you 100% sure your cpu is fine? cuz it only working with the older bios that over-volts the chip points to cpu degradation

Okay. I'm really not sure where to start on this one or how to concisely explain it. To start, I'm going to preface this by saying that I've been struggling with this computer for over a month now. I bought some new components for my PC for my birthday, was excited because its my first big upgrade in years. I got a new motherboard, and a new processor. Great. I'll give some information about how I got here, but my current problem is that I cannot use my computer after a bios update. Here's some additional information.

 

I bought an intel 14700k. That was my bad. I bought an MSI Pro Z690-A ddr4 with no wifi chip (I'm cheap and didn't want to buy new ddr5 ram). The first motherboard I got had bent pins and a damaged cpu 8 pin socket. I managed to unbend some pins and make a workaround. I couldn't return and get a new one. However, this processor was still running insanely hot. No surprise I learned afterwards that new gen intel CPUs do this. It's on me. Whatever. So I do the logical thing and I update my bios. I am getting infinite blue screens on my computer, I can't even open the windows recovery environment. The only thing that fixes it is to flash back to my old bios. Fine. Whatever. I think that maybe it's because my motherboard is damaged. So I bought a replacement motherboard. I load everything up in it tonight and notice it's updated to the version of the bios that optimizes my cpu, awesome. I try to boot it up this time. No dice. Infinite bluescreens. I think maybe I'll just try and reinstall windows. I can't even get the usb installer to boot. It's skipping the boot order I told it to do to blue screen on the ssd. I know the installer usb is perfectly fine (for reasons I'll get to later) and I'm about ready to tear my hair out. I got it to boot once, but I foolishly pressed the repair button instead of just ending my suffering and reinstalling windows. I take out the SSD that has my original boot drive in it. It's still skipping the USB and going straight to the blue screen on a drive that ISN'T EVEN IN THE COMPUTER ANYMORE. I unseat the RAM. I reseat the RAM. It's still bluescreening. It's been 6 hours and I just about give up.

 

I have a genius idea around 1:30 AM. I think, hm, what if I just go back to the bios that was on my first damaged motherboard from November of 2022. Which was nearly a year behind the bios that came loaded on the new motherboard. And what do you know, I am now reinstalling Windows. I'm about ready to tear my hair out. I need to update the bios because the CPU runs nearly 25 degrees hotter without it. What in the world can I even try guys. I seriously would appreciate any help or wisdom anyone can give me, I'm about to lose my mind. When I get up tomorrow morning I'm going to check how out of date drivers are, and possibly do some more research. It's 2 AM and I barely slept last night stressing out over this.

 

 

 

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Are you sure you use the correct updated BIOS ? There are so many board models that it's easy to get a wrong one...

In your case I'd stop tinkering, use the working BIOS, take an internet fast course on Intel CPU power, voltages and clocks, and set in BIOS values that give a good performance and not too much heat, it's quite easy in fact

 

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3 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Are you sure you use the correct updated BIOS ? There are so many board models that it's easy to get a wrong one...

In your case I'd stop tinkering, use the working BIOS, take an internet fast course on Intel CPU power, voltages and clocks, and set in BIOS values that give a good performance and not too much heat, it's quite easy in fact

 

I am positive I used the correct bios. Not to mention that when I got the new motherboard I had an updated version of the bios, and it wouldn't even boot until I flashed back to the old bios that my previous (damaged) motherboard had, that I downloaded from MSI's site. I didn't update that one, it was on the new motherboard when I got it.

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26 minutes ago, freikugel4 said:

When I get up tomorrow morning I'm going to check how out of date drivers are, and possibly do some more research. It's 2 AM and I barely slept last night stressing out over this.

 

im pretty sure you could have skipped most of this by just formatting your drive through the bios and then installing windows

 

 

2 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Are you sure you use the correct updated BIOS ? There are so many board models that it's easy to get a wrong one...

In your case I'd stop tinkering, use the working BIOS, take an internet fast course on Intel CPU power, voltages and clocks, and set in BIOS values that give a good performance and not too much heat, it's quite easy in fact

 

i thought about this too, but what are the chances msi motherboards are that similar, that the wrong bios would cripple functionality instead of just bricking the board?

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2 minutes ago, freikugel4 said:

I am positive I used the correct bios. Not to mention that when I got the new motherboard I had an updated version of the bios, and it wouldn't even boot until I flashed back to the old bios that my previous (damaged) motherboard had, that I downloaded from MSI's site. I didn't update that one, it was on the new motherboard when I got it.

are you 100% sure your cpu is fine? cuz it only working with the older bios that over-volts the chip points to cpu degradation

gaming system: Intel core I9 12900ks / biostar Z690A valkyrie / 4x8gb corsair Vengeance @3333Mhz ram / RX 7900XTX pulse gpu / Thermalright peerless assassin 140 /Coolermaster Qube 500 case / Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 12 1500w power supply

 

laptop: Dell xps 9510, 3.5k OLED, i7 11800h, rtx 3050 ti, 2x16gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, 1TB main drive, 2TB add in ssd

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1 minute ago, ki8aras said:

im pretty sure you could have skipped most of this by just formatting your drive through the bios and then installing windows
 

I'm relatively new at all this so can you explain how I could do this? I'm so tired lol

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Just now, ki8aras said:

are you 100% sure your cpu is fine? cuz it only working with the older bios that over-volts the chip points to cpu degradation

I just got the CPU last month. It also will take the bios update, I just can't boot into Windows. At all.

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Just now, freikugel4 said:

I'm relatively new at all this so can you explain how I could do this? I'm so tired lol

Don't need to do it in BIOS, make an Windows Install stick, boot on it,  and it'll give you the reformat option

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1 minute ago, freikugel4 said:

I'm relatively new at all this so can you explain how I could do this? I'm so tired lol

it'd be better to do this with a clear head the next day, sadly im not familiar with msi's bios so i cant guide you to which sub-menu you need to go

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3 minutes ago, ki8aras said:

it'd be better to do this with a clear head the next day, sadly im not familiar with msi's bios so i cant guide you to which sub-menu you need to go

Yep, I will be trying tomorrow. Thank you for the tip though I'll look into it

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5 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Don't need to do it in BIOS, make an Windows Install stick, boot on it,  and it'll give you the reformat option

The problem is I couldn't even boot into my windows installation stick. I changed priority boot order and for hours it just kept sending me to blue screens off my original boot drive. Even after I disconnected the boot drive

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27 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Are you sure you use the correct updated BIOS ? There are so many board models that it's easy to get a wrong one...

In your case I'd stop tinkering, use the working BIOS, take an internet fast course on Intel CPU power, voltages and clocks, and set in BIOS values that give a good performance and not too much heat, it's quite easy in fact

 

This is most likely what I'm going to end up doing tomorrow. I messed up buying this CPU. It's on me just listening to a suggestion without doing my own research. For right now I will just optimize with what I have so I don't break anything and can use this CPU for as long as I can

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29 minutes ago, freikugel4 said:

The problem is I couldn't even boot into my windows installation stick. I changed priority boot order and for hours it just kept sending me to blue screens off my original boot drive. Even after I disconnected the boot drive

you might be booting into the wrong partition on the windows installation stick, im assuming there's a partition marked uefi and a partition without it, try both of them

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9 minutes ago, ki8aras said:

you might be booting into the wrong partition on the windows installation stick, im assuming there's a partition marked uefi and a partition without it, try both of them

I was booting into the partition called UEFI. It also finally booted into windows installation once I flashed back to the previous bios my old motherboard had

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On 1/19/2025 at 2:34 AM, ki8aras said:

are you 100% sure your cpu is fine? cuz it only working with the older bios that over-volts the chip points to cpu degradation

I appreciate this comment, after spending the entire weekend trying to fix the problem this turned out the be the real issue at play. I brought it into a repair shop to be sure so I wouldn't be buying parts willy nilly and what do you know, its damaged. I didn't think this was possible running it at the factory settings for less than a month but I guess this is just hammering home that I can't take suggestions from people without doing my own research. I bought this cpu because it was suggested to me and i was too naive to actually look into it more. I've learned so much about computers in the last month or so. It's actually sparked a big interest in them from me, so if nothing else that is the silver lining of this whole issue.

 

I've ordered an amd cpu and a compatible mobo and will hopefully be installing them later this week. Thanks for everyone's help.

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7 hours ago, freikugel4 said:

I appreciate this comment, after spending the entire weekend trying to fix the problem this turned out the be the real issue at play. I brought it into a repair shop to be sure so I wouldn't be buying parts willy nilly and what do you know, its damaged. I didn't think this was possible running it at the factory settings for less than a month but I guess this is just hammering home that I can't take suggestions from people without doing my own research. I bought this cpu because it was suggested to me and i was too naive to actually look into it more. I've learned so much about computers in the last month or so. It's actually sparked a big interest in them from me, so if nothing else that is the silver lining of this whole issue.

 

I've ordered an amd cpu and a compatible mobo and will hopefully be installing them later this week. Thanks for everyone's help.

since the cpu has failed, you can also rma it with intel (if you havent already returned it)

gaming system: Intel core I9 12900ks / biostar Z690A valkyrie / 4x8gb corsair Vengeance @3333Mhz ram / RX 7900XTX pulse gpu / Thermalright peerless assassin 140 /Coolermaster Qube 500 case / Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 12 1500w power supply

 

laptop: Dell xps 9510, 3.5k OLED, i7 11800h, rtx 3050 ti, 2x16gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, 1TB main drive, 2TB add in ssd

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6 hours ago, ki8aras said:

since the cpu has failed, you can also rma it with intel (if you havent already returned it)

I actually am not entirely sure what my options are, or if I can even return it. I bought these parts back in November, installed them in December, and am finally realizing the problems now in January. I'll be looking into my options soon because I do not want to keep my $330 paperweight

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