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Intel AX200 Wi-Fi 6 Low Speed Issue and Troubleshooting (MSI X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI)

Hello,

 

As I mentioned in the title, I have an MSI X570 Gaming Pro Carbon Wi-Fi motherboard. This motherboard uses Intel's AX200 Wi-Fi 6 network adapter.

I have a 1000 Mbps internet connection at home, and based on the speed tests I performed on the 5 GHz network with my phone and laptop, I can easily see speeds above 800 Mbps. My ping values range between 2 and 10.

However, from the same location in the house, when I test on my desktop computer, I occasionally see speeds around 250 Mbps (with ping between 2 and 10), but most of the time, I get results around 50-150 Mbps (with ping over 30). It's unlikely that there’s an issue with the device provided by ISP since all my other devices work flawlessly.

I’ve tried different versions of Wi-Fi drivers and applied many settings suggestions I found online through Device Manager. Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to solve the problem.

I’m awaiting your help. Thank you.

Answers can be in Turkish or English.

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6 hours ago, CrossBench said:

Definitely yes

I presume you have also tried moving this antenna around to see where the best spot is for reception?

Also make sure the connections are tight where it connects on the back of the motherboard.

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On 1/15/2025 at 6:09 AM, CrossBench said:

most of the time, I get results around 50-150 Mbps (with ping over 30

This means your antenna is in a bad spot.

 

Right now it's being reflected off the metal computer case, as well as trying to transmit forward.

 

A wi-fi antenna sends out radio waves in what has been described as a donut (doughnut).  Not much up and down, but rather in every possible direction in a circle.

 

This is just un-necessary in a client device, because you know exactly what direction the wireless access point is.

 

For using what you have, I would suggest antenna extension cable, five+ feet to position farther away from your body.  I don't think it's a safe bet to have a wi-fi antenna within arms reach of you, basically always on.  Instead get 15+ feet of cable, male to male, to connect the antennas much farther away from you and also get a stronger signal.

 

I would suggest a (not omni-) directional antenna that has a narrow signal radius.  This is because you know EXACTLY where the wireless access point is, at all times, even if you move your computer, you can still walk over to the access point and know where it is.

 

So why in the world does everyone take the "convenient" route and use omni antenna which reduce wireless performance.  I can completely understand why in smart phones and similar, but for a system that allows you to use ANY antenna you want, why use an inferior tool?  More than 80% of the wi-fi perfornance is wasted with an omni-directional antenna, and it is still considered niche to use a directional, even though it's vastly superior.

 

Directional antennas are measured in dBi

 

The higher that rating the narrower the signal radius.  Somerhing like 15 dBi is a 30 degree radius.  There is 360 degrees in a circle.

 

Why transmit a wireless signal from your pc in the exact opposite of your access point?  Because it's easier?

: JRE #1914 Siddarth Kara

How bad is e-waste?  Listen to that Joe Rogan episode.

 

"Now you get what you want, but do you want more?
- Bob Marley, Rastaman Vibration album 1976

 

Windows 11 will just force business to "recycle" "obscolete" hardware.  Microsoft definitely isn't bothered by this at all, and seems to want hardware produced just a few years ago to be considered obsolete.  They have also not shown any interest nor has any other company in a similar financial position, to help increase tech recycling whatsoever.  Windows 12 might be cloud-based and be a monthly or yearly fee.

 

Software suggestions


Just get f.lux [Link removed due to forum rules] so your screen isn't bright white at night, a golden orange in place of stark 6500K bluish white.

released in 2008 and still being improved.

 

Dark Reader addon for webpages.  Pick any color you want for both background and text (background and foreground page elements).  Enable the preview mode on desktop for Firefox and Chrome addon, by clicking the dark reader addon settings, Choose dev tools amd click preview mode.

 

NoScript or EFF's privacy badger addons can block many scripts and websites that would load and track you, possibly halving page load time!

 

F-droid is a place to install open-source software for android, Antennapod, RethinkDNS, Fennec which is Firefox with about:config, lots of performance and other changes available, mozilla KB has a huge database of what most of the settings do.  Most software in the repository only requires Android 5 and 6!

 

I recommend firewall apps (blocks apps) and dns filters (redirect all dns requests on android, to your choice of dns, even if overridden).  RethinkDNS is my pick and I set it to use pi-hole, installed inside Ubuntu/Debian, which is inside Virtualbox, until I go to a website, nothing at all connects to any other server.  I also use NextDNS.io to do the same when away from home wi-fi or even cellular!  I can even tether from cellular to any device sharing via wi-fi, and block anything with dns set to NextDNS, regardless if the device allows changing dns.  This style of network filtration is being overridden by software updates on some devices, forcing a backup dns provuder, such as google dns, when built in dns requests are not connecting.  Without a complete firewall setup, dns redirection itself is no longer always effective.

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On 1/15/2025 at 10:09 PM, Alex Atkin UK said:

I presume you have also tried moving this antenna around to see where the best spot is for reception?

Also make sure the connections are tight where it connects on the back of the motherboard.

 

Yes, I’ve tried that. I’ve also moved the computer to different rooms, but the result is the same. However, with a wired connection, I was able to achieve speeds of +900 Mbps.

 
14 hours ago, E-waste said:

This means your antenna is in a bad spot.

 

Right now it's being reflected off the metal computer case, as well as trying to transmit forward.

 

A wi-fi antenna sends out radio waves in what has been described as a donut (doughnut).  Not much up and down, but rather in every possible direction in a circle.

 

This is just un-necessary in a client device, because you know exactly what direction the wireless access point is.

 

For using what you have, I would suggest antenna extension cable, five+ feet to position farther away from your body.  I don't think it's a safe bet to have a wi-fi antenna within arms reach of you, basically always on.  Instead get 15+ feet of cable, male to male, to connect the antennas much farther away from you and also get a stronger signal.

 

I would suggest a (not omni-) directional antenna that has a narrow signal radius.  This is because you know EXACTLY where the wireless access point is, at all times, even if you move your computer, you can still walk over to the access point and know where it is.

 

So why in the world does everyone take the "convenient" route and use omni antenna which reduce wireless performance.  I can completely understand why in smart phones and similar, but for a system that allows you to use ANY antenna you want, why use an inferior tool?  More than 80% of the wi-fi perfornance is wasted with an omni-directional antenna, and it is still considered niche to use a directional, even though it's vastly superior.

 

Directional antennas are measured in dBi

 

The higher that rating the narrower the signal radius.  Somerhing like 15 dBi is a 30 degree radius.  There is 360 degrees in a circle.

 

Why transmit a wireless signal from your pc in the exact opposite of your access point?  Because it's easier?

I not only adjusted the direction of the antenna but also moved the computer to different rooms to test it. I even placed it next to the modem and tested it again, but nothing changed.

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7 hours ago, CrossBench said:

I even placed it next to the modem and tested it again, but nothing changed

Sounds like a software issue

 

Open windows settings, go to network connections.  Or right click the wifi by the clock and get to it there.

 

First on the status page, click properties--not on the wi-fi settings, but status of the network screen.

 

If you click the correct properties button it should say the wireless frequency being used, may need to look around different buttons for it.

 

It will be useful to know for sure if you are on 5 or 2.4 Ghz

 

Here's the technical part.

 

Go back to status and click

 

Under Advanced Network Options in bold

 

Change Adapter Settings

 

This takes you to the control panel, but I can't remember how exactly to get there, so this is an easier way for me to explain.

 

Right click your wi-fi and click disable, since if it's this slow why not give it a break.

 

Click properties in the right click menu for the wi-fi.

 

Highlight Internet Protocol v 6 and remove the check mark.

 

Click OK.  Re-enable the wi-fi and give it a go.

 

Still no luck?

 

Go back to that, and try unchecking

 

QoS (quality of service) and click OK.  Disable and re-enable the wi-fi adapter.

 

No luck?

 

Back in the properties, this time go to Configure

 

Then in the 2nd window go to

 

Advanced tab.

 

This is the really technical part.

 

You'll need to research what these settings do, and it varies from brand.

 

I would suggest increasing the receive and transmit buffers.  I'm not sure what the numbers refer to, but I've had a more stable connection with higher buffers.  Latency will go up though, so if you need lower delay for video or voice communication, this is important to be aware of.

 

Try changing the transmitter power option from highest, to maximum power saving / lowest.

 

Click OK on both Windows, disable and re-enable the wireless adapter and test performance.

 

It is really helpful to test performance after each change, this way you will know which change actually helped.

 

Look through those settings, research them, and maybe something helps.

 

Or, did you install the wireless software drivers from your motherboard website?  That might help too.

: JRE #1914 Siddarth Kara

How bad is e-waste?  Listen to that Joe Rogan episode.

 

"Now you get what you want, but do you want more?
- Bob Marley, Rastaman Vibration album 1976

 

Windows 11 will just force business to "recycle" "obscolete" hardware.  Microsoft definitely isn't bothered by this at all, and seems to want hardware produced just a few years ago to be considered obsolete.  They have also not shown any interest nor has any other company in a similar financial position, to help increase tech recycling whatsoever.  Windows 12 might be cloud-based and be a monthly or yearly fee.

 

Software suggestions


Just get f.lux [Link removed due to forum rules] so your screen isn't bright white at night, a golden orange in place of stark 6500K bluish white.

released in 2008 and still being improved.

 

Dark Reader addon for webpages.  Pick any color you want for both background and text (background and foreground page elements).  Enable the preview mode on desktop for Firefox and Chrome addon, by clicking the dark reader addon settings, Choose dev tools amd click preview mode.

 

NoScript or EFF's privacy badger addons can block many scripts and websites that would load and track you, possibly halving page load time!

 

F-droid is a place to install open-source software for android, Antennapod, RethinkDNS, Fennec which is Firefox with about:config, lots of performance and other changes available, mozilla KB has a huge database of what most of the settings do.  Most software in the repository only requires Android 5 and 6!

 

I recommend firewall apps (blocks apps) and dns filters (redirect all dns requests on android, to your choice of dns, even if overridden).  RethinkDNS is my pick and I set it to use pi-hole, installed inside Ubuntu/Debian, which is inside Virtualbox, until I go to a website, nothing at all connects to any other server.  I also use NextDNS.io to do the same when away from home wi-fi or even cellular!  I can even tether from cellular to any device sharing via wi-fi, and block anything with dns set to NextDNS, regardless if the device allows changing dns.  This style of network filtration is being overridden by software updates on some devices, forcing a backup dns provuder, such as google dns, when built in dns requests are not connecting.  Without a complete firewall setup, dns redirection itself is no longer always effective.

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Another test is to boot a Linux Live USB and test it there.  If its a software problem it will usually perform much better in Linux.

ASUS B650E-F GAMING WIFI + R7 7800X3D + 2x Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30-36-36-76  + ASUS RTX 4090 TUF Gaming OC

Router:  Intel N100 (pfSense) Backup: GL.iNet GL-X3000/ Spitz AX Switches: Netgear MS510TXUP, MS510TXPP, GS110EMX
WiFi6: Zyxel NWA210AX (1.7Gbit peak at 160Mhz) WiFi5: Ubiquiti NanoHD OpenWRT (~500Mbit at 80Mhz)
ISPs: Zen Full Fibre 900 (~930Mbit down, 115Mbit up) + Three 5G (~1200Mbit down, 115Mbit up, variable)
Upgrading Laptop/Desktop CNVIo WiFi 5 cards to PCIe WiFi6e/7

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