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Ryzen 9800X3D wont clock over 5,0 Ghz while in Cinebench R23 & others

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I hope I'm writing this in the right section.
 

As title says, I have a ryzen 7 9800X3D which I'm benchmarking. It's mounted on a MSI x870 Tomahawk with 64gb 6000Mhz CL30 rams.
While performing the multi-core test on cinebench - all tabs closed but while having a dual monitor config - I noticed that it's unable to reach it's desired 5.20 boost clock frequency but instead sits at a "weird" 5.08.
Temps were "fine", after 10 minute stress it barely touched 80°.
Artic Freezer III 360 AIO as cooler.

Strangely enough, when performing a CPU stress test with AIDA64, it reaches 5.20 Ghz of boost clock but also it peaked at a whopping 93° for a few seconds (with consequent throttle).
Last but not less important, while executing the cpu stress test built in CPU-Z, the results are different once again. Temps wont exceed 64-65° but also the clock frequency sits at 5.12Ghz.
While idling the CPU ranges between 4.10-4.30Ghz.

Last thing: These are stock settings.
The tests were made with both updated and not updated (stock) BIOS.
The updated test went better with a result of 23100 but I'm kinda concerned about it not reaching it's full clock boost.

Any idea on how to achieve those numbers?? I already looked up at energy saving settings and I'm already on performance mode.

 

Thank you guys in advance! 🙂  

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when it is cinebench r24 this is supposed to happen... it works differently than r23 which is more taxing on the cpu... 

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1 minute ago, Anghammarad said:

when it is cinebench r24 this is supposed to happen... it works differently than r23 which is more taxing on the cpu... 

Thank you for your quick answer!
Anyway I still find quite strange the fact that most people with the stock config for the 9800x3d manage to pull a whopping 23.5k... I'm barely hitting 22k in my latest tests - everything closed - high priority on cinebench process!

That's why I'm asking for an advice!

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4 minutes ago, Anghammarad said:

when it is cinebench r24 this is supposed to happen... it works differently than r23 which is more taxing on the cpu... 

Not so sure

 

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3 minutes ago, Fagianorex said:

Thank you for your quick answer!
Anyway I still find quite strange the fact that most people with the stock config for the 9800x3d manage to pull a whopping 23.5k... I'm barely hitting 22k in my latest tests - everything closed - high priority on cinebench process!

That's why I'm asking for an advice!


If you are doing actual benchmark run turn off everything in the background including any monitoring software, anything that pulls the sensors will affect the score,
I get around 65C in R24 with -20CO (tho its quite cold in my room)

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Just now, Fagianorex said:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying! Which settings are you using on your system? 

Only -20 on all core in Curve Optimizer 

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Just now, KnoT said:


If you are doing actual benchmark run turn off everything in the background including any monitoring software, anything that pulls the sensors will affect the score,
I get around 65C in R24 with -20CO (tho its quite cold in my room)

I capped at 23k when I loaded up cinebench right after booting up the PC.
Got 23010.
But -20 curve optimizer is something many people are talking about; what is it exacly needed for? 

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2 minutes ago, Fagianorex said:

I capped at 23k when I loaded up cinebench right after booting up the PC.
Got 23010.
But -20 curve optimizer is something many people are talking about; what is it exacly needed for? 

It shifts the voltage curve so CPU is fed lest Voltage per Clock ( its undervolting but without setting flat voltage )

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1 minute ago, Fagianorex said:

Will try right now! 

Thank you very much!

Do some googling/research first before changing anything you dont know in BIOS please 🙂

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12 minutes ago, KnoT said:

Do some googling/research first before changing anything you dont know in BIOS please 🙂

Thank you for caring about my components ahah
Anyway, did the modification, now it's finally pulling those sweet 5.2Ghz.
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and yeah, temps are wayyyy too high; tomorrow I will try and apply a new thermal paste and will also try to do a better job tightening the cooler to the CPU socket. 

I got 20°C as my room temperature right now so I'd say it's not hot at all here aswell but still I get 82° after the very first couple of cycles. 

Will keep you updated on the results!

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1 minute ago, Fagianorex said:

Thank you for caring about my components ahah
Anyway, did the modification, now it's finally pulling those sweet 5.2Ghz.
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and yeah, temps are wayyyy too high; tomorrow I will try and apply a new thermal paste and will also try to do a better job tightening the cooler to the CPU socket. 

I got 20°C as my room temperature right now so I'd say it's not hot at all here aswell but still I get 82° after the very first couple of cycles. 

Will keep you updated on the results!

Dont use HWMonitor, try HWInfo 🙂

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2 hours ago, Fagianorex said:

and yeah, temps are wayyyy too high; tomorrow I will try and apply a new thermal paste and will also try to do a better job tightening the cooler to the CPU socket. 

What is way too high? Presumably during the Cinebench run. Technically speaking if you're hitting 5.2Ghz its not "too" high at all. 

 

How many Ryzen CPU's have you had? Familiar with their thermal expectations?

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From the way that my 9800x3d run that temp is high. I am running at 68c @ 5450  curve optimize set to -40.(Ran intel burn set 64GB ram 5 pass) My system is large case with  with 4x140 corsair ll fans. Also  6x120 link fan on corsair rad in push/pull setup. System average 5450 intel burn test. I also might have hit silcon lottery on my system at least how I am running it.

My point is that reason your frequency is  lower because system is hitting 90c so that lower speed of cpu.Based on the other am5 cpu I have worked with your system seem to be normal. Maybe running a little warm but I have no idea what case or air flow setup.

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