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I'm trying to do a new build after some time has passed and to be honest, I'm lost in the recent events of new GPUs, CPUs, Fake frames, Intel failing and all the new gen M.2s, ddr5 rams and so on.
So if I may ask for your help or opinion on what would be the best to do.

I'm in a situation where i want to do a mid tier build like i did 2017 with my 8600k and gtx970 but, I'm in 2025 and only buying a used 2060oc a couple years ago isn't satisfying my needs any more.

So I'm looking to build an mid to mid-high build thats gonna serve me for some time like this one did with just an upgrade here and there.

To follow the rules now.

 

Budget & Location

I don't necessary have a budget to follow, just the idea of the mid to mid high build. I'm gonna buy piece by piece the pc for the next couple of months as I will be able to.

I'm living in Switzerland. (recently moved for work, not rich heh)

 

Aim

Aim is to play Games. From AAA to Indie, In 1440p mid to max setting. ATX SUP 01, love the case.
Also in the close future I will need to start editing some videos, mostly short form ones.

 

Monitors

Right now I have 2 32" 1440p monitors that I would upgrade to something like the Samsung G5 + A 1440p monitor above it but just for watching content and such.

 

Peripherals

I'm fine with those.

 

Why are you upgrading

It's old. Need more powah.

 

Now, There is my idea/plan

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PrGTmC

 

Now, with what I need help is following.

 

CPU

Don't have any exp with AMD, but I want to switch. From what i have seen the 7700x is in a sweet spot for my needs and the "budget".

What do you think?

 

MOBO

I like that its not packed with RGB (just a bit), but I've seen that there is something with the m.2 slots if you use more than 1 you basically make your gpu slot from x16 to x8.

So is that normal or it's just a Gigabyte thing? If so, could you recommend me a similar MOBO that's in the same price range and style.

That's why i went with 1 m.2 and a 2.5 drive. I would rather just have 2 m.2 drives tbh.

 

GPU

Should i go with the 4070s (i hope its gonna get some price reduction in the next couple of months, but here the normal 4070 is still holding it's price), or should i go with the 5070.

Anyway it's gonna be the last upgrade I will do cause it's the most expensive upgrade as in here where i live, comparing US prices is about 200$ more in EU.

I'm not willing to switch to team red or blue in the GPU sector. Guess old wounds still didn't heal.

 

Also if you have any other ideas, suggestions or stories to share or give me about anything with the whole build, I'm open for it.

Thanks for "listening". Have a nice day.  

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9 minutes ago, Torky15 said:

'm gonna buy piece by piece the pc for the next couple of months as I will be able to.

Dont youll spend more for a worse build and also eat into your warranty period. Save up the money and buy all at once else you are ripping yourself off.

 

Also a guideline for budget is needed as else we could give you a 2000€ build and then soneone else a 1000€ build because they cl sider that mid high end.

 

11 minutes ago, Torky15 said:

upgrade to something like the Samsung G5 + A 1440p monit

What screen do you have? The g5 is quite shit as it has major consintancy issues with colour consistency across the panel, severe backligt bleed and overall is costly for what it is.

 

The build you made is overall quite nice, however the cooler is massively overkill and a simple thermalright peerless assasin120 is more than you need.

 

The rsm is a bit pricey due to the rgb could save a nice chunk there.

 

The x870 also commands a hefty premium for nothing extra you seem to need. A good b650 can be had for much less.

 

For ssds the 2 m.2 thing is a big it depends. However what is the need for all this storage?

 

 

As for gpu yeah no idea where thats gonna go all you can do is wait

 

 

 

So overall my advice issave up the money, buy all at once and ask again the week of buying

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12 minutes ago, Torky15 said:

Hello people 🙂

I'm trying to do a new build after some time has passed and to be honest, I'm lost in the recent events of new GPUs, CPUs, Fake frames, Intel failing and all the new gen M.2s, ddr5 rams and so on.
So if I may ask for your help or opinion on what would be the best to do.

I'm in a situation where i want to do a mid tier build like i did 2017 with my 8600k and gtx970 but, I'm in 2025 and only buying a used 2060oc a couple years ago isn't satisfying my needs any more.

So I'm looking to build an mid to mid-high build thats gonna serve me for some time like this one did with just an upgrade here and there.

To follow the rules now.

 

Budget & Location

I don't necessary have a budget to follow, just the idea of the mid to mid high build. I'm gonna buy piece by piece the pc for the next couple of months as I will be able to.

I'm living in Switzerland. (recently moved for work, not rich heh)

 

Aim

Aim is to play Games. From AAA to Indie, In 1440p mid to max setting. ATX SUP 01, love the case.
Also in the close future I will need to start editing some videos, mostly short form ones.

 

Monitors

Right now I have 2 32" 1440p monitors that I would upgrade to something like the Samsung G5 + A 1440p monitor above it but just for watching content and such.

 

Peripherals

I'm fine with those.

 

Why are you upgrading

It's old. Need more powah.

 

Now, There is my idea/plan

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PrGTmC

 

Now, with what I need help is following.

 

CPU

Don't have any exp with AMD, but I want to switch. From what i have seen the 7700x is in a sweet spot for my needs and the "budget".

What do you think?

 

MOBO

I like that its not packed with RGB (just a bit), but I've seen that there is something with the m.2 slots if you use more than 1 you basically make your gpu slot from x16 to x8.

So is that normal or it's just a Gigabyte thing? If so, could you recommend me a similar MOBO that's in the same price range and style.

That's why i went with 1 m.2 and a 2.5 drive. I would rather just have 2 m.2 drives tbh.

 

GPU

Should i go with the 4070s (i hope its gonna get some price reduction in the next couple of months, but here the normal 4070 is still holding it's price), or should i go with the 5070.

Anyway it's gonna be the last upgrade I will do cause it's the most expensive upgrade as in here where i live, comparing US prices is about 200$ more in EU.

I'm not willing to switch to team red or blue in the GPU sector. Guess old wounds still didn't heal.

 

Also if you have any other ideas, suggestions or stories to share or give me about anything with the whole build, I'm open for it.

Thanks for "listening". Have a nice day.  

This is a great build 🙂  I personally only game and I have a 7700x and an Nvidia RTX 4000 series GPU and I am having such a good time!.

 

I would recommend a B650 motherboard as these can be had for a bit less money than a new X870 without compromising on performance.  That being said, the Gigabyte X870 AORUS ELITE is a sexy motherboard.

 

Are you going with an AIO for aesthetic reasons? The 7700x is easily cooled by a cheaper air cooler like a Peerless Assassin SE120.  I cool mine with a AK620 with a constant fan speed of 30%, stays cool and quiet!

 

We'll see the 5070 hit shelves some times in February so if you can wait until then and look at benchmarks, this is ideal.

 

You mention that you will buy components piece by piece over a couple of months... We highly recommend AGAINST this.

You will not be able to test some components and if a components is dead on arrival, you might not be able to RMA or get a refund if you have had it for 4 months before being able to test it...

At least buy the PSU, CPU, Motherboard and RAM so you can test that everything works on the motherboard box. The 7700x has onboard graphics.

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46 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Dont youll spend more for a worse build and also eat into your warranty period. Save up the money and buy all at once else you are ripping yourself off.

 

 

43 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

You mention that you will buy components piece by piece over a couple of months... We highly recommend AGAINST this.

You will not be able to test some components and if a components is dead on arrival, you might not be able to RMA or get a refund if you have had it for 4 months before being able to test it...

At least buy the PSU, CPU, Motherboard and RAM so you can test that everything works on the motherboard box. The 7700x has onboard graphics.

 

 

I understand Your concerns guys. But yes. The plan is to buy the cpu,mobo and ram all at once. I already have the same corsair psu but 650 and that will be fine from what I've seen to run it with my 2060 till I save up for a new Gpu. 

 

46 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Also a guideline for budget is needed as else we could give you a 2000€ build and then soneone else a 1000€ build because they cl sider that mid high end.

 

 

 

I would then say to 2000€, thats about how much this pcpartpicker list would cost me here where i live.  

 

46 minutes ago, jaslion said:

What screen do you have? The g5 is quite shit as it has major consintancy issues with colour consistency across the panel, severe backligt bleed and overall is costly for what it is.

 

I Have 2 old AOC screens that i would like to switch for 2 ultrawide. I'm open for suggestions. I would lie if i told you that i didn't see some mixed reviews about the G5

 

46 minutes ago, jaslion said:

however the cooler is massively overkill and a simple thermalright peerless assasin120 is more than you need.

 

43 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Are you going with an AIO for aesthetic reasons? The 7700x is easily cooled by a cheaper air cooler like a Peerless Assassin SE120.

 

The Lian Li SUP 01 is a "low profile" case that only goes with water cooling or AIO's. And yes, I would definetly buy the artic freezer 3 but i just love the little lcd on this one and it's not priced as an ASUS aio.....

46 minutes ago, jaslion said:

The rsm is a bit pricey due to the rgb could save a nice chunk there.

 

Also, looks. I have the old ones in my old rig and i love them.  

 

43 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

I would recommend a B650 motherboard as these can be had for a bit less money

 

46 minutes ago, jaslion said:

The x870 also commands a hefty premium for nothing extra you seem to need

Tbh, the price difference when i look at the same aorus just b650 vs x870 is 70 euro, thats not to bad.

I get 2 usb c instead of 1 (I need 1 for connecting the aio lcd) and i get the wifi7, I will have 10gbps internet middle year.

And it looks quote "Sexy"

46 minutes ago, jaslion said:

For ssds the 2 m.2 thing is a big it depends. However what is the need for all this storage?

 

I like to have 2 drives. Maybe I've overdone on the amount but rn i have 3.5 and about 1tb is free. And I didn't start with the video editing part.

 

The GPU, yes. Wait. I agree

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Just now, Renegade042 said:

I'd expect the 5070 to sell out day 1. (prob scalpers)

I'd also expect a B650 aorus elite to have a much more mature BIOS.

True that. Idk how is it here in EU but I know its a big problem in USA.

I get that, but I'm not in to overclocking or anything thats happening in bios. I just turn on exrp for the ram (if thats how its called) heh

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53 minutes ago, jaslion said:

For ssds the 2 m.2 thing is a big it depends. However what is the need for all this storage?

I would just get 2 4TB NVMEs if the storage really is required to be that big, especially if you plan on getting 4 M.2 slot Motherboard.

 

Maybe one cheaper for games and stuff and one faster for OS and stuff.

 

1 hour ago, Torky15 said:

I like that its not packed with RGB (just a bit), but I've seen that there is something with the m.2 slots if you use more than 1 you basically make your gpu slot from x16 to x8.

That depends, which slot it is, some motherboards have more 16x slots, so if it's not the first one, it won't matter as you probably won't use like the 2nd/3rd 16x slot for example anyway.

 

56 minutes ago, jaslion said:

The x870 also commands a hefty premium for nothing extra you seem to need. A good b650 can be had for much less.

yep, and with 36 PCIe lanes, the B650 isn't really lacking bandwidth, quite the opposite, 16+4+4+4+4=32 (GPU+NVME*4)

 

54 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

You mention that you will buy components piece by piece over a couple of months... We highly recommend AGAINST this.

For some components it's fine, but that depends which components exactly, though yes, you never know which components won't drop/increase in price, or which will go out of stock entirely, or temporarily during the time window you'll be buying it.

 

57 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Are you going with an AIO for aesthetic reasons? The 7700x is easily cooled by a cheaper air cooler like a Peerless Assassin SE120.

actually I was in middle of altering the list, when I found out the case selected doesn't support tall coolers, it's quite thin,

 

which I have to add, while I respect small case builds, it usually brings up cost, the building process can be bit trickier, and on occasion some smaller cases can be worse cooling/airflow wise, though not all

 

2 minutes ago, Torky15 said:

True that. Idk how is it here in EU but I know its a big problem in USA.

I get that, but I'm not in to overclocking or anything thats happening in bios. I just turn on exrp for the ram (if thats how its called) heh

Is Arc B580 in stock? That GPU basically out-valued any previous GPU by almost 2x less price for similar performance, or 2x more features in about 0,5x less of a price.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, podkall said:

would just get 2 4TB NVMEs if the storage really is required to be that big, especially if you plan on getting 4 M.2 slot Motherboard.

Will probably do so. But get 2 good ones just 1 1tb for os and other stuff and 1 4tb for gaming and editing.

 

18 minutes ago, podkall said:

and on occasion some smaller cases can be worse cooling/airflow wise, though not all

This one is not small in that way just the layout is not traditional. The front fans are replaced by the gpu and aio and 3 extra fans on the back and actually all reviews praise the thermals. Also i quite like it. And the customisable screen at the AIO

 

20 minutes ago, podkall said:

That depends, which slot it is,

 

I need to look more in to it then.

21 minutes ago, podkall said:

Arc B580

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21 minutes ago, podkall said:

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I like the ssd recommendation and the psu. Really i dont need a fully modular one cause it has enough space in the sup 01 to accommodate the "leftovers".

I'mma go to sleep rn but I'm gonna merge our 2 lists. Just fyi, you put 2 different rams and the non x version of the cpu. The differecne is about 20-30€ here x vs non x.

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6 hours ago, Torky15 said:

I Have 2 old AOC screens that i would like to switch for 2 ultrawide. I'm open for suggestions. I would lie if i told you that i didn't see some mixed reviews about the G5

Any specific reasons for an ultrawide? Youve already got nice bif screens. Keep in mind that even today there are games releasing that just do not support ultrawide resolutions or look quite odd on them.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Why_Me said:

Great build, would say. But I can manage/afford around 500Chf more without an issue to future proof it and make it aesthetically more pleasing

 

16 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Any specific reasons for an ultrawide?

The screens are getting old so one of them is also bleeding light on the bottom edge (they changed 3 countries, with me).

And if i'm able to have more fps with the new build the 75Hz I guess will feel lacky. Also they dont have the vesa mount. 

 

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1 hour ago, Torky15 said:

Great build, would say. But I can manage/afford around 500Chf more without an issue to future proof it and make it aesthetically more pleasing

 

The screens are getting old so one of them is also bleeding light on the bottom edge (they changed 3 countries, with me).

And if i'm able to have more fps with the new build the 75Hz I guess will feel lacky. Also they dont have the vesa mount. 

 

Ah ok that is fair. Are you dead set on an ultrawide? Also 2 ultrawides above eachother basically just makes a big tv 😛

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2 hours ago, jaslion said:

Ah ok that is fair. Are you dead set on an ultrawide? Also 2 ultrawides above eachother basically just makes a big tv 😛

 

Thats true hahah with a line in the middle.

Not dead set but I see it more visually appealing and my desk would be more free. Ok in that way i could buy the popular dell's 32" ones and put them on mounts but Im tired looking left and right for 13 years now. Heh.

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5 minutes ago, Torky15 said:

 

Thats true hahah with a line in the middle.

Not dead set but I see it more visually appealing and my desk would be more free. Ok in that way i could buy the popular dell's 32" ones and put them on mounts but Im tired looking left and right for 13 years now. Heh.

I feel like this is one of those cases where juat getting 2 27 inch screens and putting them at a proper distance away from you is the best solution of all.

 

Looking up is a lot more neck straining than left and right and one of the reason most stacked monitor setups are very fleeting in time set up and used 😛

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11 hours ago, Torky15 said:

This one is not small in that way just the layout is not traditional. The front fans are replaced by the gpu and aio and 3 extra fans on the back and actually all reviews praise the thermals. Also i quite like it. And the customisable screen at the AIO

well aesthetics are aesthetics, but these ones will find you spending little more for them

 

11 hours ago, Torky15 said:

I like the ssd recommendation and the psu. Really i dont need a fully modular one cause it has enough space in the sup 01 to accommodate the "leftovers".

Modular's better since you're not constantly sifting through cables to figure out which one is going where, and there's less chance they tangle.

 

11 hours ago, Torky15 said:

I'mma go to sleep rn but I'm gonna merge our 2 lists. Just fyi, you put 2 different rams and the non x version of the cpu. The differecne is about 20-30€ here x vs non x.

Well, in performance the difference is 0 to 1% X vs non-x,

 

I put different RAM, I forgot to remove the Trident Z RAM, 4 sticks are not good on DDR5 platform, the list of different RAMs is obviously the ones I intended to keep, just looking at cheapest RAM with good speeds, and RGB because I saw the Trident is RGB, most RAMs if you click on them will have 30-36-36-X timing

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57 minutes ago, jaslion said:

I feel like this is one of those cases where juat getting 2 27 inch screens and putting them at a proper distance away from you is the best solution of all.

 

Looking up is a lot more neck straining than left and right and one of the reason most stacked monitor setups are very fleeting in time set up and used 😛

nobody tilts their head vertically, only downwards to look at the phone

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10 hours ago, jaslion said:

I feel like this is one of those cases where juat getting 2 27 inch screens and putting them at a proper distance away from you is the best solution of all.

Yeah, had some thoughts, like maybe they are just to big, But i need to get to a store and compare 32 vs 27.

The Dell G2724D caught my eye. If y'all know a better one in that price range. Feel free to say.

 

10 hours ago, jaslion said:

Looking up

I ain't hanging it on the ceiling bro xD thats just eye movement. 

 

9 hours ago, podkall said:

Modular's better

True.

 

9 hours ago, podkall said:

Well, in performance the difference is 0 to 1% X vs non-x,

 

I've seen that and also the power consumption and temps are much lower, went with the x cause of the 25$ price difference, but when you say like that... maybe its smarter to go non x

9 hours ago, podkall said:

most RAMs if you click on them will have 30-36-36-X timing

 

dont know much about timings on ram, but ty 🙂

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5 minutes ago, Torky15 said:

I've seen that and also the power consumption and temps are much lower, went with the x cause of the 25$ price difference, but when you say like that... maybe its smarter to go non x

They draw same power once you turn on PBO

 

5 minutes ago, Torky15 said:

dont know much about timings on ram, but ty 🙂

Me neither, but these numbers are low without doubling the price.

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3 minutes ago, Torky15 said:

Didn't know about pbo either. 

it makes Ryzen go vroom for 0,01% reasons

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