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THE ARC B580 IS ACTUALLY GREAT & AFFORDABLE

After launches ranging from whelming (RX 7600) to insulting (RTX 4060), we finally have a good budget contender: The Intel Arc B580. This Battlemage GPU brings impressive performance at a price that is better than any other video card out there right now. Better than the 4060 Ti, the 6700 XT, and pretty much any other card. Intel and their Xe2 architecture have impressed.

 

 

 

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A good impression is a good impression. Might start seeing a shift in PC recommendations. I wonder what software issues normies will run into.

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The most exciting thing this year is seen another competitor in the GPU card market. I really think the inclusion of XE cores is transforming what we will think is a Graphics Processing Unit to something that can handle Graphics and AI generative tasks. I am happy to see some casual look into AI testing. I am hoping we can see more benchmarks, not only in image generative tasks like UL Procyon, but text generative charts that show common LLMs such as llama c++

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I really hate being a Debbie Downer about this, but it looks like ARC performance is still completely busted in Starfield (according to the HUB review).

 

Now I understand that most people don't like Starfield, but the problem isn't that I think people will want to play Starfield. The problem is that this indicates that Intel, for whatever reason, still can't get proper performance out of their cards in every modern AAA game, and that makes me very wary of recommending this card to anybody. Like, will this problem crop up again with other AAA games in the future, where ARC is just broken and won't run correctly? If it's specific to Bethesda's engine, will ES6 be busted on ARC?

 

If Intel can't guarantee that every AAA game currently on the market will run correctly on ARC, then frankly I still think this is a product to be avoided, no matter how good the performance and value is otherwise.

 

And trust me when I say that I really, really wanted the B580 to be good and recommendable without reservations.

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7 minutes ago, Ha-Satan said:

every modern AAA game

7 minutes ago, Ha-Satan said:

but it looks like ARC performance is still completely busted in Starfield

You see, that's where they get you. Intel's had issues supporting older game architectures, that's where it fell behind and Starfield, whilst having a new coat of paint with bondo seal to cover the cracks, is one of the older architecture games that showed it age in the first trailer that came out. Starfield runs bad on Arc cards because it's a game based on a 2011 engine, just like all the other 2012 games made on 2011 game engines, just this one was released a decade later.

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2 minutes ago, venomtail said:

You see, that's where they get you. Intel's had issues supporting older game architectures, that's where it fell behind and Starfield, whilst having a new coat of paint with bondo seal to cover the cracks, is one of the older architecture games that showed it age in the first trailer that came out. Starfield runs bad on Arc cards because it's a game based on a 2011 engine, just like all the other 2012 games made on 2011 game engines, just this one was released a decade later.

 

Yeah, this is one of the issues that has kept me on Nvidia. As somebody who plays a mix of new and old games, I want to be able to boot up a game from 2008 that uses DX9 and UE3 and have it Just Work. Like, I understand that with some really old games I might have to do a bit of legwork to get it running correctly, but I want to minimize that sort of thing as much as possible.

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I just wanted to pop in to say, good frickin' job on the graphs. This might've been the first video in a while where I didn't have to pause on a graph while going "wait, wah?"

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1 hour ago, venomtail said:

A good impression is a good impression. Might start seeing a shift in PC recommendations. I wonder what software issues normies will run into.

yea it looks great. i suck with computers though and can see it having some weird gpu specific bugs in loads of games so ill think ill wait alitttttle bit longer

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1 hour ago, Ha-Satan said:

 

Yeah, this is one of the issues that has kept me on Nvidia. As somebody who plays a mix of new and old games, I want to be able to boot up a game from 2008 that uses DX9 and UE3 and have it Just Work. Like, I understand that with some really old games I might have to do a bit of legwork to get it running correctly, but I want to minimize that sort of thing as much as possible.

My favorite game (Final Fantasy XII Zodiac Age) crashed regularly on my older Dell with Iris XE graphics (it ran well when it wasn’t crashing), and Kingdom Hearts (1 + 2) also ran into pretty severe performance problems, despite being ports of 20 year old games. Granted, the hardware and drivers were pre-Arc (and KH had issues on RDNA 3 hardware too), but this is pretty firmly in my mind when I look at Arc. 
 

Not that I’m looking at a new system right now, but being able to play the games I want to play is pretty top priority. 

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Hey folks,
I am thinking of upgrading from my old 1080 (none ti) to the B580.

I am only playing WoW, League of Legends and some Minecraft. Maybe wanna check out Monster Hunter Wilds in the future.

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My question is would the B580 be able to handle this?
I mean my 1080 does at low to mid performance.

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On 12/12/2024 at 7:41 PM, Zerant said:

- 1x LG Electronics 27GP850P-B @160Hz 4k (Main Display)

That's 1440p not 4k is all that I know.

  

On 12/12/2024 at 7:41 PM, Zerant said:

- 1x Dell S3422DWG @144Hz 4k (top display)

Ultra-wide 1440p i think?

 

 

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You know, I don't think I'd ever have expected this back during the Alchemist era. I may be a pure AMD boy, it's exciting to see Intel pull off a win like this, especially since they've really needed one for a long while (especially in their graphics department, which had never been that great up until now).

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i knew it wasnt a mistake to wait til battle mage for a gpu upgrade!

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14 minutes ago, UnawareBlaire said:

If Intel continues this trend, whenever they release a card to compete with the top end I will 100% buy it.

by being 2 years late and with a die the size of a 4070 so they are not even selling at a profit? They are still sending money into a deep pit with this GPU. I doubt they can maintain competitiveness with RDNA4. Blackwell 5060 wont be competitive because of GDDR7 3GB chips not being out. 

This GPU would be amazing, 6 months ago. 

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7 minutes ago, Justin12234 said:

Does Anyone know why they are using a 7800X3d and not a 9800x3d image.thumb.png.4475e8849f99a18906c66ee170e4af73.png they are using a 7800X3D

It doesnt matter for GPUs of this class, at no resolution are they being CPU bottlenecked for the GPUS in their test suite.

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4 hours ago, Justin12234 said:

Yeah But it should be best practice for them to use the 9800X3d mainly due to its higher frequency 

 

Both Hardware unboxed and Lv1 Techs has higher shadow of the tomb raider benchmarks by 10 percentage same with last of us.

I've not watched the video, I don't watch lmg anymore, more l1tech, techtechpotato and GN, but maybe they don't have enough comparison data from LABS to be able to verify their data? 

 

That would be my guess

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