Studio grade wireless earbuds?

[ladybug]

Hey, anyone know any wireless earbuds that have studio grade sound? They need to sound like bug studio monitors, for example the ATH M70x(same kind of fullness and clarity and everything to the sound), just basically studio earbuds, but wireless-do they exist? How much do they cost? If you know of any pair, please let me know regardless of the price I am just curious, obviously the cheaper the better, so prioritize the cheapest you can find with this kind of sound, but honestly anything you know of just let me know so I put them in the wish list otherwise even if I can afford them at some point if I don't know about them I can't get them and earbuds are not something you can try before you buy usually. So please and that will be highly appreciated!

[Cocococo]

No, they don't exist "studio sound" is just marketing, studios don't care about good sound anyway, it's what their crazy speaker setups are for. I do know some mastering is done with airpods (because this is how a lot of people listen to modern music unfortunately) if you want great clarity of sound then the airpods pro 2 are pretty great, but they do not sound like real speakers

[Blue4130]

16 minutes ago, ladybug said:

Hey, anyone know any wireless earbuds that have studio grade sound? They need to sound like bug studio monitors, for example the ATH M70x(same kind of fullness and clarity and everything to the sound), just basically studio earbuds, but wireless-do they exist? How much do they cost? If you know of any pair, please let me know regardless of the price I am just curious, obviously the cheaper the better, so prioritize the cheapest you can find with this kind of sound, but honestly anything you know of just let me know so I put them in the wish list otherwise even if I can afford them at some point if I don't know about them I can't get them and earbuds are not something you can try before you buy usually. So please and that will be highly appreciated!

What do you mean by "studio grade sound"? Just a flat response?

[BillBill]

9 minutes ago, Cocococo said:

No, they don't exist "studio sound" is just marketing, studios don't care about good sound anyway, it's what their crazy speaker setups are for. I do know some mastering is done with airpods (because this is how a lot of people listen to modern music unfortunately) if you want great clarity of sound then the airpods pro 2 are pretty great, but they do not sound like real speakers

Some full-size headphones are studio headphones. Not sure they make any earbuds with that level of quality though. 

[Cocococo]

3 hours ago, BillBill said:

Some full-size headphones are studio headphones. Not sure they make any earbuds with that level of quality though. 

Not really, studios care about durability and isolation. This is why Beyerdynamic DT770's are so popular in studios despite them being very lacking in sound quality compared to similarly priced closed back headphones, they can survive a lot of drops, the cable won't be destroyed when run over by some office chair wheels and the fixed cable makes it nearly impossible for a forgetful musician to take home.

 

IEM's are widely used by musicians and sound engineers, usually Shure IEM's because they were the gold standard for a long time, and they just don't really break (common theme with artists and recording studios, reliability always comes first) But again, there's a ton of better sounding options out on the wider market for much cheaper.

 

"Studio" headphones were a decent indication of quality back in the hifi days, mixing desks back in the 70's and 80's had really bad interference and distortion, the best way to get around this was making your mixing headphones really high ohms (in modern times ohms really don't mean much) so you drop a small fortune on some AKG K240 Sextett's and plug them into a home hifi system, you'd get none of the awful distortion noises that usually came with using headphones at the time. Again, these days the effect doesn't really exist and "studio" is just used to market mediocre products.

[BillBill]

12 hours ago, Cocococo said:

Not really, studios care about durability and isolation. This is why Beyerdynamic DT770's are so popular in studios despite them being very lacking in sound quality compared to similarly priced closed back headphones, they can survive a lot of drops, the cable won't be destroyed when run over by some office chair wheels and the fixed cable makes it nearly impossible for a forgetful musician to take home.

 

IEM's are widely used by musicians and sound engineers, usually Shure IEM's because they were the gold standard for a long time, and they just don't really break (common theme with artists and recording studios, reliability always comes first) But again, there's a ton of better sounding options out on the wider market for much cheaper.

 

"Studio" headphones were a decent indication of quality back in the hifi days, mixing desks back in the 70's and 80's had really bad interference and distortion, the best way to get around this was making your mixing headphones really high ohms (in modern times ohms really don't mean much) so you drop a small fortune on some AKG K240 Sextett's and plug them into a home hifi system, you'd get none of the awful distortion noises that usually came with using headphones at the time. Again, these days the effect doesn't really exist and "studio" is just used to market mediocre products.

What I mean by studio headphones is high quality sound. 

[Cocococo]

1 hour ago, BillBill said:

What I mean by studio headphones is high quality sound. 

I know, i'm saying that the label "studio headphones" doesn't mean anything and is purely marketing these days, just take a look around some of the most famous great sounding headphones (Sennheiser HD600 and HD800, Focal Utopia and Clear, Hifiman Susvara) none of them even try to use "studio" as a sign of quality, meanwhile atrocious headphones like the AKG K72, K240 Studio, K712 and Sony MDR-7506 are heavily marketed as "studio headphones" despite the fact that they sound pretty bad, Beyerdynamic has an entire page dedicated to saying how great their headphones are for studio use. 

[ladybug]

21 hours ago, Cocococo said:

No, they don't exist "studio sound" is just marketing, studios don't care about good sound anyway, it's what their crazy speaker setups are for. I do know some mastering is done with airpods (because this is how a lot of people listen to modern music unfortunately) if you want great clarity of sound then the airpods pro 2 are pretty great, but they do not sound like real speakers

 

21 hours ago, Blue4130 said:

What do you mean by "studio grade sound"? Just a flat response?

Yeah I know they use it for marketing. I meant not so much flat response, yes flat response definitely, but even if it's not completely flat, balanced. Not too much bass that overpowers everything but not too little either not too much highs because it sounds like a tin can, stuff like that you know. Very balanced, deep sound, like if you wear a pair of big studio headphones(and I mean just professional studio monitors, or IEMs in the earbud world). I use Audiotechnica ATH M70x as my "studio" headphones and I like how the sound is, the voice is very natural and clear, it just sounds like a natural human voice with all the little fluctuations and stuff the singer might do, and the instruments sound good, there is a good soundstage I guess because it sounds very surround, so when I said studio I meant more the sound signature. Something with the same sound signature as studio headphones or IEMs. But wireless. So anyone know anything like that? I just want the convenience of wireless earbuds without compromising the great sound with the wired ones. And having tried multiple pairs of wireless earbuds with no success and as I said there is no easy way to try them before you buy(binaural sound recordings exist of some but they are usually cheap and sound bad or they aren't tested at all, the list is very small and I heard most of them didn't like any of them, they are either tinny in the recording of course or just good sound, not tinny but overpowering bass). So yeah I just don't know how am I going to find anything good enough, and honestly if I put a budget constraint I might not learn of some great ones which maybe sometimes I can afford but don't know about them and I will be spending hours researching cheap crap or overpriced crap or just not good enough expensive crap(not actually crap but you get it as a joke). So yeah if anyone knows anything like that please let me know. And I will add them to my shopping list now or in the far future depending on how $$$$$ they are.

[E-waste]

On 12/8/2024 at 5:57 PM, ladybug said:

wireless earbuds that have studio grade sound

Bluetooth, noticable at lower volumes distorts the original sound.

 

Don't believe me?

 

If you have any bluetooth speakers, whether it be regular or head/ear phones, download a simple tone generator / frequency generator app.

 

Use a mild tone like 500 hz and also try a high-pitch such as

 

11,000 or 12,000 hz

 

In the app called "frequency generator" on android, with an orange icon

 

It has its own separate volume control.

 

I recomnend strongly to use a very low volume so you don't unnecessarily and avoidably damage your ears.

 

Using a very low volume inside the app, and using the system volume to increase volume, you'll definitely hear the distortion and tone changes caused by just changing the volume.

 

There's your proof.  So if you really want high quality, wired is the only valid option.