Need help, low fps with 4070 GPU

[Rang0o]

Hi there

I'm having an issue and I'm not sure why, I sincerely hope someone can help me.

 

I've had an issue for awhile, that my PC doesn't really seem to perform as the hardware in it should allow it.

The newest and best example is my RTX 4070 working at 90% to give me 40FPS in Path Of Exile 2.

 

 

 

My hardware:

CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor

 

CPU Cooler
NZXT Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler

 

Motherboard
MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard

 

Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory

 

Storage
Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

 

Video Card
Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card

Power Supply
Corsair RM750e (2022) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
 

 

I'll take any and all help and suggestions.

[podkall]

26 minutes ago, Rang0o said:

AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor

Might be lacking a bit in the CPU department,

 

 

 

• Not sure if there are any settings that could help boost the performance, that's also possible

[starsmine]

inb4 people falsely put it all on CPU bottleneck. 

Damn im late
 

For people that put it on the CPU
the gpu is taking over twice as long to draw the frame at the settings OP is using.
The CPU is running the game at 100FPS, the GPU is running at 45fps on average, the instantaneous fps is 39, since the gpu took 26ms to draw that frame.

 

[Tan3l6]

Even Ryzen 5 7600 is in some games 100%+ faster:

 

[starsmine]

2 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Even Ryzen 5 7600 is in some games 100%+ faster:

 

but would that help here?

so the CPU hypothetically runs the game at 200fps. 
The GPU will still be running that game at 40fps. 

Meaning your fps is, 40fps. 

[Tan3l6]

4 minutes ago, starsmine said:

but would that help here?

so the CPU runs the game at 200fps. 
The GPU will still be running that game at 40fps. 

What are you talking about?

The CPU in this case 100% the culprit. 

Bottleneck if you will. GPU, the RTX 4070 is severely limited by Ryzen 2600. I just added the video to show the scale of how much.

[starsmine]

2 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

What are you talking about?

The CPU in this case 100% the culprit. 

Bottleneck if you will.

Bro, look up. 
The settings OP is using, the CPU is not the culprit, 

[Rang0o]

The fact that the CPU is considered a possible bottleneck is enough reason to get a new one.

I'm not that informed on the CPU market though, any good suggestions?
Google seems to really like AMD Ryzen 7 5800X

[Tan3l6]

9 minutes ago, starsmine said:

Bro, look up. 
The settings OP is using, the CPU is not the culprit, 

Perhaps. In any case it's an unbalanced build. Only 1,8GB VRAM usage is strange also.

 

@Rang0o have you run DDU? Display Driver Uninstaller to remove current Nvidia drivers and reinstall the latest?

 

 

  

2 minutes ago, Rang0o said:

Google seems to really like AMD Ryzen 7 5800X

5700X3D would be better for gaming

[starsmine]

3 minutes ago, Rang0o said:

The fact that the CPU is considered a possible bottleneck is enough reason to get a new one.

No its not, I highly discourage money cannoning problems, especially when there isn't reason to believe it will fix the issue.

3 minutes ago, Rang0o said:

I'm not that informed on the CPU market though, any good suggestions?
Google seems to really like AMD Ryzen 7 5800X

5800x3d is the best gaming CPU for that platform, if you have other games where the CPU is a bottleneck it may help, but if you are playing at 4k, the gains will be minimal, you will see more gains at 1080p. 

[Rang0o]

I also just noticed that my MHz on ram seems really low

[Rang0o]

4 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Perhaps. In any case it's an unbalanced build. Only 1,8GB VRAM usage is strange also.

 

@Rang0o have you run DDU? Display Driver Uninstaller to remove current Nvidia drivers and reinstall the latest?

 

 

I have not run DDU, I just run the Nvidia App, I think it was formerly Geforce Experience, I thought it would take care of all that.
Is DDU necessary?

[Tan3l6]

2 hours ago, Rang0o said:

Is DDU necessary?

Could help in such cases. 

And you should enable EXPO/XMP in BIOS for RAM speeds.

[starsmine]

2 minutes ago, Rang0o said:

I have not run DDU, I just run the Nvidia App, I think it was formerly Geforce Experience, I thought it would take care of all that.
Is DDU necessary?

almost never, especially if the GPU has always been the same vendor on that install. but its a quick free sanity check if something did corrupt.

Going into bios to correct the ram speeds to 1800MHz will also be free performance in general use for that PC. 

[Rang0o]

2 minutes ago, starsmine said:

almost never, especially if the GPU has always been the same vendor on that install. but its a quick free sanity check if something did corrupt.

Just to be sure, cause the sites for DDU are kinda sketchy, we are talking about this: https://www.wagnardsoft.com/display-driver-uninstaller-DDU-

[starsmine]

Just now, Rang0o said:

Just to be sure, cause the sites for DDU are kinda sketchy, we are talking about this: https://www.wagnardsoft.com/display-driver-uninstaller-DDU-

yup, 
To ease your nerves
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000091878/graphics.html
Look where that links you to. 

People that do low level code are not the type of people who like making fancy websites. 

[Rang0o]

35 minutes ago, starsmine said:

yup, 
To ease your nerves
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000091878/graphics.html
Look where that links you to. 

People that do low level code are not the type of people who like making fancy websites. 

Finished DDU, did it en safe mode and everything, reinstalled Nvidia app og latest driver.
It doesn't really seem to have made the big difference though.
I'll try order the CPU and see if that will help out.

[starsmine]

39 minutes ago, Rang0o said:

I'll try order the CPU and see if that will help out.

Why?
you know its not the CPU

You prove it every time with this. 

Did you fix your ram?
What settings are you even running?
Have you tried changing those. 

[Rang0o]

59 minutes ago, starsmine said:

Why?
you know its not the CPU

You prove it every time with this. 

Did you fix your ram?
What settings are you even running?
Have you tried changing those. 

I forgot about the ram, after doing all the DDU.
I put on A-XMP in bios now, ram shows 1667 Mhz, which I believe to make more sense.

Thanks a ton Tan3l6.


Didn't make a difference in the game though.


I really don't get it...

And I've messed around a bit with POE2 settings, and it doesn't make sense to me, even putting everything on the lowest, it only gets me up to 45fps.
With everything on highest settings it puts me at 40 FPS.

[DeerDK]

OP, what resolution are you playing at? I may have missed it but I can't seem to find it in the thread? 

 

Edit: Nevermind, I now saw it in the last post. It would have been an easy solution if you were running it at 4k ultra, with raytracing

 

Edit again: seems like you are not the only one with low fps in that game. 

Could be a game driver issue. 

Another thread talks about server or connection as the culprit

 

[Rang0o]

20 minutes ago, DeerDK said:

OP, what resolution are you playing at? I may have missed it but I can't seem to find it in the thread? 

 

Edit: Nevermind, I now saw it in the last post. It would have been an easy solution if you were running it at 4k ultra, with raytracing

 

Edit again: seems like you are not the only one with low fps in that game. 

Could be a game driver issue. 

Another thread talks about server or connection as the culprit

 

I am 1920 x 1080, cause I have 2 x 24'' monitors, I did try a different monitor that goes to 3840 x 2160, but didn't have an impact on FPS, so set it back to my 2 monitor setup.
 

 

[DeerDK]

5 minutes ago, Rang0o said:

I am 1920 x 1080, cause I have 2 x 24'' monitors, I did try a different monitor that goes to 3840 x 2160, but didn't have an impact on FPS, so set it back to my 2 monitor setup.
 

 

Okay. How does it work in other games? 

[podkall]

4 hours ago, Rang0o said:

The fact that the CPU is considered a possible bottleneck is enough reason to get a new one.

I'm not that informed on the CPU market though, any good suggestions?
Google seems to really like AMD Ryzen 7 5800X

Pretty much anything 5000 series, 5600/5600x/5700x/5700x3D

 

3 hours ago, starsmine said:

Why?
you know its not the CPU

You prove it every time with this. 

Did you fix your ram?
What settings are you even running?
Have you tried changing those. 

you know the latency of GPU could just mean the GPU is "waiting" for the CPU, right?

 

1 hour ago, Rang0o said:

What's in the advanced settings?

 

does it have this setting?: (if yes try chaning this to DX11 or Vulkan)

[Rang0o]

4 hours ago, podkall said:

you know the latency of GPU could just mean the GPU is "waiting" for the CPU, right?

 

 

I did not, very good to know, I'm thinking I'll upgrade the CPU either way, it's just the most annoying part to change.

 

4 hours ago, podkall said:

 

 

What's in the advanced settings?

 

does it have this setting?: (if yes try chaning this to DX11 or Vulkan)

DirectX11 was basically unplayable, Vulkan gave 1-2 more FPS, nothing else noteworthy.
The Advanced settings aren't really graphic related, I can take a screenshot tomorrow if you wanna see.

 

4 hours ago, DeerDK said:

Okay. How does it work in other games? 

Havn't really played other games in a long time that has high requirements for my pc, so it's hard to say, you got any recommendations for benchmark or other program I could use to test?


Thanks so far everyone, has been amazing getting so much great feedback so quickly.
 

[DeerDK]

11 minutes ago, Rang0o said:

 

I did not, very good to know, I'm thinking I'll upgrade the CPU either way, it's just the most annoying part to change.

 

DirectX11 was basically unplayable, Vulkan gave 1-2 more FPS, nothing else noteworthy.
The Advanced settings aren't really graphic related, I can take a screenshot tomorrow if you wanna see.

 

Havn't really played other games in a long time that has high requirements for my pc, so it's hard to say, you got any recommendations for benchmark or other program I could use to test?


Thanks so far everyone, has been amazing getting so much great feedback so quickly.
 

Do you have any newer games you could run? It would be good to run a few tests in games like Cyberpunk or similar to see if your 4070 performs accordingly to review benchmarks.