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Start/Stop count is on 100 consistently

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3 hours ago, NystriX said:

Should I just trash this one with the stop/start count?

 

2 hours ago, kokosnh said:

The value is ok, wonder why it is red, it’s just start stop count, nothing critical… 

 

3 hours ago, AAVVIronAlex said:

It is on 419.

 

Hexadecimal says 445 though.

 

So now let's tie all this together:

 

  • Whether it is 419 or 449, neither of those numbers indicate a blatant issue with your drive.
  • Perhaps the fact that Power On Count in the upper right is different than what is shown after converting the hexadecimal value below is what causes CrystalDiskInfo to flag that specific value red, and therefore your entire drive.

Therefore, I recommend getting whatever tool WD provides on checking these SMART stats and doing diagnostics.

 

Sometimes the way that manufacturers use SMART is dumb because the makers aren't always consistent with each other. So if one deviates from others, and the tool you use (CrystalDiskInfo) expects what the others tend to do, then this can't happen. So I'm sorry that this doesn't confirm one way or another if there is a drive issue, but at least you know why you have to dig deeper to know more, and why SMART is sometimes dumb.

I have many spare drives, should I stop using this one for archiving and backing? I have several drives with Reallocated sectors count, and I'm fine with it, I just do more frequent checks on those. Should I just trash this one with the stop/start count?

Thx!

 

 

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The value is ok, wonder why it is red, it’s just start stop count, nothing critical… 

   
 
 
 
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3 hours ago, NystriX said:

Should I just trash this one with the stop/start count?

 

2 hours ago, kokosnh said:

The value is ok, wonder why it is red, it’s just start stop count, nothing critical… 

 

3 hours ago, AAVVIronAlex said:

It is on 419.

 

Hexadecimal says 445 though.

 

So now let's tie all this together:

 

  • Whether it is 419 or 449, neither of those numbers indicate a blatant issue with your drive.
  • Perhaps the fact that Power On Count in the upper right is different than what is shown after converting the hexadecimal value below is what causes CrystalDiskInfo to flag that specific value red, and therefore your entire drive.

Therefore, I recommend getting whatever tool WD provides on checking these SMART stats and doing diagnostics.

 

Sometimes the way that manufacturers use SMART is dumb because the makers aren't always consistent with each other. So if one deviates from others, and the tool you use (CrystalDiskInfo) expects what the others tend to do, then this can't happen. So I'm sorry that this doesn't confirm one way or another if there is a drive issue, but at least you know why you have to dig deeper to know more, and why SMART is sometimes dumb.

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There is different attribute for „power cycle count” it’s usually 0b or 0c ( and the value should be the same as „power on count” if you calculate it from hex to dec )

this 04 is just stop start count, and they usually are 300k or 600k in spec of the HDD

   
 
 
 
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On 12/7/2024 at 4:18 PM, NobleGamer said:

 

 

 

So now let's tie all this together:

 

  • Whether it is 419 or 449, neither of those numbers indicate a blatant issue with your drive.
  • Perhaps the fact that Power On Count in the upper right is different than what is shown after converting the hexadecimal value below is what causes CrystalDiskInfo to flag that specific value red, and therefore your entire drive.

Therefore, I recommend getting whatever tool WD provides on checking these SMART stats and doing diagnostics.

 

Sometimes the way that manufacturers use SMART is dumb because the makers aren't always consistent with each other. So if one deviates from others, and the tool you use (CrystalDiskInfo) expects what the others tend to do, then this can't happen. So I'm sorry that this doesn't confirm one way or another if there is a drive issue, but at least you know why you have to dig deeper to know more, and why SMART is sometimes dumb.

thx, i'll run some checks. anyway im gonna mark this drive with a sticker so i'll know to use it for backup of backups and not for archiving.

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