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Hi there - long time fan, first time post.

I'm looking for some advice / suggestions on a new system build [specs in the spoiler] that seems to have 'loading lag' issues in Red Dead Redemption 2 (RDR2) and Cyberpunk [mainly these two, but other games also experience this]. Previously, with a 1080ti and an i7-8th gen(?) this problem didn't seem to present.


The graphics look fantastic, but I noticed that there is a draw distance problem and it has trouble keeping up with quick movement. I assumed it was cyberpunk and the fact that I had modded it, but as I am playing vanilla RDR2 something as simple as spinning the mouse quickly enough can cause me to catch things like houses in the middle distance spawning in. It is also very obvious that things are moving to a higher level of detail as you move closer to them, which didn’t happen with the old computer and graphics card interestingly (or, at least not in such obvious ways).

 

While playing thru cyberpunk there was stuff spawning in only when I got very close to it, but I’d modded it to hell so assumed it was that. With mods off it still happened but I figured maybe I’d broken something via the deployment so let it go… but some of it was nuts. e.g. a sign on a wall would just appear when I got within a certain distance. In RDR2 it’s more blatant.

 

It 'feels' like something is bottle-necking somewhere; some part of the game is clearly not keeping up, resulting in ironically worse net outcome than the old card (1080ti).

My very first attempt to use the card was in a game called control. I noticed in that if I spun quickly enough things would spawn in - but thought this was possibly due to the mechanics of the game.

I’ve double checked that I have every possible driver installed and up-to-date, when I do benchmark test they’ll come back fantastically, even third-party ones.

 

The issue really seems to be that the games have a very long draw distance, so I can see that the models that you would expect to be used from a very long distance away are being used right until they are very very close to the player, and the higher-res model suddenly jumps in.

 

Any thoughts or experiences with this (or similar) issue?

 

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26 minutes ago, Th3OldSk00lSoldier said:

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put the games on the os drive and see if it has an effect.

though what you describe sounds more like you have the render distances turned up too high and are just expecting far too much from the machine with no other point of reference.

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On 12/7/2024 at 7:27 AM, emosun said:

put the games on the os drive and see if it has an effect.

though what you describe sounds more like you have the render distances turned up too high and are just expecting far too much from the machine with no other point of reference.

Thanks for the suggest!
Changing game location seems not to change anything.

 

Suspecting a bottleneck; or possibly some other quirk (starting the process of using various tools to monitor usage, etc)


From reading around the place, gaming at 1440p - there should be little/no impact on pushing the graphics; only thing would possibly be lower FPS, not so much asset load issues.

 

here's an example from the intro cut-scene of Horizon.


Some other examples from RDR2 (with video clips)-

Example 1

Example 2

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ok didnt see anything wrong with those so this is most likely the issue

 

On 12/6/2024 at 2:27 PM, emosun said:

expecting far too much from the machine with no other point of reference.

 

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On 12/6/2024 at 2:59 PM, Th3OldSk00lSoldier said:

1080ti

Do you still have that gpu, try it if so, but first uninstall the current nvidia video software, and install the 1080ti software.

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