New Work Build or Just Upgrading GPU

[Consoledotlog]

Budget: 2,000 - 2,500 usd

Country:  USA

Programs & workloads: Davinci Resolve editing (6k/4k Braw, Prores & h.265. Exporting to 1080p timelines), photoshop & lightroom

Other details: Needing to build a parts list for a new work computer, partly wondering if we should just upgrade this current one with a 4080 Super & save half the cost? Would a 9900K work well with a 4080 Super for video editing?

 

Current: i9-9900K, GTX 1660, 32gb ram, I think a 750w power supply.

 

New build (if we don't just upgrade gpu): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HC8V74

[ulookuglynoob]

1 minute ago, Consoledotlog said:

Budget: 2,000 - 2,500 usd

Country:  USA

Programs & workloads: Davinci Resolve editing (6k/4k Braw, Prores & h.265. Exporting to 1080p timelines), photoshop & lightroom

Other details: Needing to build a parts list for a new work computer, partly wondering if we should just upgrade this current one with a 4080 Super & save half the cost? Would a 9900K work well with a 4080 Super for video editing?

 

Current: i9-9900K, GTX 1660, 32gb ram, I think a 750w power supply.

 

New build (if we don't just upgrade gpu): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HC8V74

I would recommend a new build if you want it to last since that CPU will eventually get to you, but for now, upgrading the GPU would be fine. You can get the 4080 super for now and build the rest of the PC if needed.

[Why_Me]

Another option to consider.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core Ultra 7 265KF 3.9 GHz 20-Core Processor  ($348.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE 58 CFM CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *Gigabyte Z890 EAGLE WIFI7 ATX LGA1851 Motherboard  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Patriot Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($154.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Asus PRIME OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 PWM PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($9.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1913.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-05 21:32 EST-0500

[Penpilot]

i would definatly recommend getting a new build, @Why_Me's build is good but has some problems so get that with these changes-

A) don't get the KF version, the intel encoders are better than the encoders Nvidia has and they significantly improve performance so get the K non F version for $20 more.

b) make sure you get CUDIMMs and not DIMMs for your ram, intel CPUs more or less require cudimm for optimal performance, even in apps where it shouldn't matter. the ones in his build are dimm. to put into perspective how significant of a difference this is a single cudimm in single channel performs better than 2 normal dimms in dual channel.

[ulookuglynoob]

I would still reccomend that you only get the 4080 super and only build the rest of the build if you encounter any issues. Maybe you could wait for a new Intel CPU release? or wait for the prices to drop? But unless you really need to, I don't think upgrading the whole build  is necessary at the moment. Have you had any issues with your CPU?

[Consoledotlog]

Sorry I should have explained better originally, my boss is planning to give away this current PC to a local ministry after the new build. My wondering was how a significantly newer GPU would play with a 9900k / would we be better literally buying a mid-spec PC to give away instead. No issues with the 9900k.

 

What the confidence on intel stability? Are we sure the issues are resolved? I don't care about a bluescreen here or there but my boss definitely would.

 

I need to understand encoding better... Resolve gives the option for software, quicksync or nvidia. Don't they each ONLY use that piece of hardware? But at the end of the day rendering speed is whatever for me, I mainly need to speed up resolve neural engine stuff like magic mask, noise reduction & the like, which would be entirely GPU right? (Going back to only buying a gpu?) 

[Penpilot]

2 hours ago, Consoledotlog said:

What the confidence on intel stability? Are we sure the issues are resolved? I don't care about a bluescreen here or there but my boss definitely would.

its fine. only 13th gen and 14th gen were affected and no instability has been reported since.

 

2 hours ago, Consoledotlog said:

Don't they each ONLY use that piece of hardware?

uhhhh, short answer, no. long answer, i dont know the long answer but you want intel quicksynk. tech notice has documented this pretty extensively.

 

 

[Consoledotlog]

@Penpilot I can't for the life of me find the recommended ram speed/cas latency for core ultra 7, is that info not out yet or am I blind? Also how do I find out if a ram stick is dimm or cudimm? Registered or unbuffered isn't related right?

[Penpilot]

45 minutes ago, Consoledotlog said:

 I can't for the life of me find the recommended ram speed/cas latency for core ultra 7, is that info not out yet or am I blind

just look for the first word latency 10ns or lower. that is fine. but it doesn't matter as much with intel

45 minutes ago, Consoledotlog said:

Also how do I find out if a ram stick is dimm or cudimm

should be on the spec sheet for the stick.

 

45 minutes ago, Consoledotlog said:

Registered or unbuffered isn't related right?

correct

 

cudimms have absurd pricing though, you may be better off getting a 14900k or 13900k for now. or getting a 7950x/9950x +arc a310/a380 for qicksynk

[KhazadSanci]

5 hours ago, Consoledotlog said:

I need to understand encoding better... Resolve gives the option for software, quicksync or nvidia. Don't they each ONLY use that piece of hardware?

When you select an encoding option, it should only use that (or fall back to software if the particular codec variant isn't supported).
 

5 hours ago, Consoledotlog said:

But at the end of the day rendering speed is whatever for me, I mainly need to speed up resolve neural engine stuff like magic mask, noise reduction & the like, which would be entirely GPU right? (Going back to only buying a gpu?) 

Neural engine features are almost all wholly GPU-bound. I haven't benchmarked a 9900K recently, but I expect that even with it GPU would be the dominant factor in those tasks.

 

13 hours ago, Penpilot said:

don't get the KF version, the intel encoders are better than the encoders Nvidia has and they significantly improve performance so get the K non F version for $20 more.

If you do upgrade to an intel CPU, make sure you follow the advise here and get one with an iGPU. Generally speaking, Intel Quick Sync will be faster for encode and decode than the NVENC/NVDEC accelerators on NVIDIA, and the iGPU supports more "flavors" of h.265 than does NVIDIA.
 

 

1 hour ago, Penpilot said:

or getting a 7950x/9950x +arc a310/a380 for qicksynk

I would advise against this in general as DaVinci Resolve is currently less-featured in terms of decode support for intel dGPUs than iGPUs, despite them having the same accelerators. It gets a bit weird, but there's a Puget page on it.
 

13 hours ago, Penpilot said:

make sure you get CUDIMMs and not DIMMs for your ram, intel CPUs more or less require cudimm for optimal performance, even in apps where it shouldn't matter. the ones in his build are dimm. to put into perspective how significant of a difference this is a single cudimm in single channel performs better than 2 normal dimms in dual channel.

This is just not correct. At the same frequency, a CUDIMM and unlocked DIMM will perform the same. For reference, I just ran the Puget Systems DaVinci benchmark (extended) on a 265K and the results were:

• 265K 6400 CUDIMM: 9739
• 265K 6400 DIMM: 9914
• 265K 5600 DIMM: 9817

While you can get higher frequencies with better stability from CUDIMMs, you certainly don't need them for performance, and I would be hesitant to go for very high frequencies if there is an expectation that this is a stable system.