Help with a surprise build for my young nephew (lights and fans going, but screen remains black)

[ShadeDK]

Hey. Im trying to rebuild a hp omen 30l for my Nephew, but no luck so far. It used to have a 5900x and 3080ti, but trying to get it to work with a Ryzen 5 4500 and a 1060. Gpu works, and the 4500 is brand new. It starts with all the lights, ram included, but I cant get a post of any kind, screen just remains black, with lights and fans going. Ram are the original btw., and also tried with another gpu, and same results. Is there some hp omen thing im missing, or just regular troubleshooting? (Motherboard is my biggest suspect now, having verified 1060 in other computer, and cpu being brand new).

[Needfuldoer]

42 minutes ago, ShadeDK said:

It used to have a 5900x and 3080ti, but trying to get it to work with a Ryzen 5 4500 and a 1060.

Do you still have the 5900X? If so, can you throw it back in just as a sanity check?

 

Maybe HP didn't whitelist the 4500 in their BIOS (so it wouldn't work even if the chipset technically supports it).

[PDifolco]

45 minutes ago, ShadeDK said:

Hey. Im trying to rebuild a hp omen 30l for my Nephew, but no luck so far. It used to have a 5900x and 3080ti, but trying to get it to work with a Ryzen 5 4500 and a 1060. Gpu works, and the 4500 is brand new. It starts with all the lights, ram included, but I cant get a post of any kind, screen just remains black, with lights and fans going. Ram are the original btw., and also tried with another gpu, and same results. Is there some hp omen thing im missing, or just regular troubleshooting? (Motherboard is my biggest suspect now, having verified 1060 in other computer, and cpu being brand new).

Reset and upgrade BIOS, just in case

 

[jaslion]

32 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

Do you still have the 5900X? If so, can you throw it back in just as a sanity check?

 

Maybe HP didn't whitelist the 4500 in their BIOS (so it wouldn't work even if the chipset technically supports it).

This very much I've run into this with an omen 45l board. REFUSED to take a ryzen 2600 but was fine on a 5600 when it came from a 5900x

[ShadeDK]

I had no idea the cpu had to be "whitelisted", I just went for AM4 socket. I can't test with the 5900x, but I will try to get my hands on a 5k (maybe the mentioned 5600) series cpu, and give that a go. Thanks for the replies so far, and I will update once I have gotten another cpu to try.

[PDifolco]

31 minutes ago, ShadeDK said:

I had no idea the cpu had to be "whitelisted", I just went for AM4 socket. I can't test with the 5900x, but I will try to get my hands on a 5k (maybe the mentioned 5600) series cpu, and give that a go. Thanks for the replies so far, and I will update once I have gotten another cpu to try.

Yeah that's a weird scammy OEM practice, another reason to avoid them like plague

[Somerandomtechyboi]

garbage board

 

seems to be standard matx and psu seems to be standard so go ahead and replace it with some matx <80$ b4/550 board

 

also why the 4500? id take this chance to return it and get a 5500 instead as the 4500 has quartered cache (8mb vs 32mb) and its zen2 where the 5500 atleast only has halved cache (16mb vs 32mb) and its zen3, used market wise 3600(x) should be ~50$ destroys the 4500 and nears the performance of a stock 5500 and the 5600(x) are ~80$ beating both chips albiet overclocked 5500 with tuned ddr4 4600+ can still catch up with it though cant say the same for a tuned 4500

[ShadeDK]

1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

garbage board

 

seems to be standard matx and psu seems to be standard so go ahead and replace it with some matx <80$ b4/550 board

 

also why the 4500? id take this chance to return it and get a 5500 instead as the 4500 has quartered cache (8mb vs 32mb) and its zen2 where the 5500 atleast only has halved cache (16mb vs 32mb) and its zen3, used market wise 3600(x) should be ~50$ destroys the 4500 and nears the performance of a stock 5500 and the 5600(x) are ~80$ beating both chips albiet overclocked 5500 with tuned ddr4 4600+ can still catch up with it though cant say the same for a tuned 4500

 

I simply looked at am4 socket chips, and chose one that had a good deal on it. He is not very old, and just wanna play Minecraft, Roblox and such, so I just wanted to slap something together, that wasn't too expensive, but asking first should be my first thing to do, going forward. Lots of great help and tips all around. I have ordered a 5600x (found a good deal) and was mentioned to work by someone else here, and I am gonna try with that, once it arrives. If that still doesnt work, I will try to swap the motherboard. 

[esCaPade1]

Disassemble the whole thing - disconnect every part from every other part, then rebuild.

If that doesn't help, then look into spending cash on parts. It does sound like MB is the issue, but hard to guarantee.

[ShadeDK]

3 minutes ago, esCaPade1 said:

Disassemble the whole thing - disconnect every part from every other part, then rebuild.

If that doesn't help, then look into spending cash on parts. It does sound like MB is the issue, but hard to guarantee.

I have had it completely disassembled 2 times, and no luck (nice and clean also), and have tested whatever parts I could in another computer. Without knowing more, I will try another new cpu (didn't know OEM bios locked out some chips) 5600x, and check if that fixes the issue, and then take it from there.  

[PDifolco]

34 minutes ago, ShadeDK said:

I have had it completely disassembled 2 times, and no luck (nice and clean also), and have tested whatever parts I could in another computer. Without knowing more, I will try another new cpu (didn't know OEM bios locked out some chips) 5600x, and check if that fixes the issue, and then take it from there.  

You'd have been better buying a cheap standard board to replace HP crap

[esCaPade1]

Shocking behaviour from HP if that is the case, but not in the slightest bit surprising of a corporation.