When is a Platform to Old?

[Ginny P the VT]

trying to figure out if my current platform is to old to justify adding RAM and GPU too for my 4k HDR10 VTuber needs. or if i just need to go for a full new platform. will note which parts looking to upgrade. so my question is my plat form just to out date n need a new platform Motherboard and CPU? or can a GPU and RAM upgrade fix my CPU and RAM Resource Utilization use averaging 90% to 100% when I'm Streaming as a Vtuber?

 

Thanks in Advanced

 

Current Main Specs:

Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor with stock Intel Cooler

ASRock B560M-C Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

OLOy (2 x 8 GB) 16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable) - One the Upgrades would be 64 GB

MSI RX 6600 XT MECH 2X 8G OC Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Video Card - One thew Upgrades would be an Radeon RX 7800 XT or an GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER

MSI SPATIUM M450 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

Gigabyte P650G (US) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply

Fenvi WiFi 7 BE8800pro PCI-E Wireless Card BE200NGW WiFi BT5.4 Tri-Band Network WiFi 7 Desktop PCIe PC Adapter for Windows 11/10

MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023)

 

Current Peripherals Specs:

Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 120 W 2.1-Channel Speakers  - till i get speaker wire for my Onkyo TX-NR6100 7.2 Channel THX Certified Network A/V Receiver

AmazonBasics KU-0833 Keyboard - want Beter but works for a backup avert my Razer Ornate v2 was destroyed in apartment flood

AmazonBasics MSU0939 Mouse - want Beter but works for a backup avert my Razer Wired Viper was destroyed in apartment flood

SilverStone Technology Wireless Remote Computer Power/Reset Switch, USB 2.0 9-pin ES02-USB

 

Also have a:

Fenvi RJ45 2.5GBase-T PCIe WiFi Network Adapter RTL8125 2500/1000/100Mbps PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Wireless Card RJ45 LAN NIC Controller Support Windows/Linux/MAC - cant use due to my current Motherboard

[Lurking]

So you want to go from 16 to 64 GB? Why not 32GB by either adding 2x16 all new or add 2x8 to the existing?

 

Does CPU/GPU limit your work or gaming? Any other future changes planned? 

 

A GPU you buy now is independent of the platform and can be used in future builds. DDR 4 RAM you buy now will be wasted .. but is cheap if it gets you another year on this platform 

 

Really depends on where your bottlenecks are. Maybe price out what selling the old platform could bring in.

[SansVarnic]

You are considering yours old while I'm still rocking a 

• Intel Core i7-4790 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor
• Asus H97M-E/CSM Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
• Crucial Ballistix Sport 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 CL9 Memory (x2)
• EVGA 08G-P4-5180 GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB Video Card

You're still relevant for a few more years.

 

 

But to answer your question ... A platform is old when it no longer meets the needs you have for the workload you're running.

 

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 hour ago, Ginny P the VT said:

MSI RX 6600 XT MECH 2X 8G OC Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Video Card - One thew Upgrades would be an Radeon RX 7800 XT or an GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER

considering the range is from the 7800xt to 4070ti super which is literally double the price of the 7800xt that tells me you can probably get a new platform instead with 64gb of ram

 

gpu wise get a used 6950xt as it outperforms the 7900gre for ~400-450 heck it actually gets pretty close to the 4070ti super (beaten by the cheaper 7900xt)

 

1 hour ago, Ginny P the VT said:

Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor with stock Intel Cooler

ASRock B560M-C Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

OLOy (2 x 8 GB) 16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable)

probably worth 100-150$ resold

1 hour ago, Ginny P the VT said:

Fenvi RJ45 2.5GBase-T PCIe WiFi Network Adapter RTL8125 2500/1000/100Mbps PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Wireless Card RJ45 LAN NIC Controller Support Windows/Linux/MAC - cant use due to my current Motherboard

redundant as most newer boards have 2.5g ethernet

 

id look at (aliexpress) 7500f + b650m hdv or equivalent/better boards (can handle an overclocked 7950x, ddr5 8000+)

 

btw whats the total budget and the country? might be able to give some more specific reccomendations as the above are pretty general reccomendations

[Ginny P the VT]

 

6 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

considering the range is from the 7800xt to 4070ti super which is literally double the price of the 7800xt that tells me you can probably get a new platform instead with 64gb of ram

 

gpu wise get a used 6950xt as it outperforms the 7900gre for ~400-450 heck it actually gets pretty close to the 4070ti super (beaten by the cheaper 7900xt)

 

probably worth 100-150$ resold

redundant as most newer boards have 2.5g ethernet

 

id look at (aliexpress) 7500f + b650m hdv or equivalent/better boards (can handle an overclocked 7950x, ddr5 8000+)

 

btw whats the total budget and the country? might be able to give some more specific reccomendations as the above are pretty general reccomendations

well the lan card was gotten fo using to upgrade the 1gb on my curent board. onboard wifi died ence the wifi7 card too.

 

46 minutes ago, Lurking said:

So you want to go from 16 to 64 GB? Why not 32GB by either adding 2x16 all new or add 2x8 to the existing?

 

Does CPU/GPU limit your work or gaming? Any other future changes planned? 

 

A GPU you buy now is independent of the platform and can be used in future builds. DDR 4 RAM you buy now will be wasted .. but is cheap if it gets you another year on this platform 

 

Really depends on where your bottlenecks are. Maybe price out what selling the old platform could bring in.

i end up with lagging audio if i have obs control audio for things like sound alerts for example.

 

thought about 32gb ddr4 yes. but other vtubers say 32 gb is kind of the minimum u want. most recommend 64 gb. due to how much resources that OBS, VTube Studio, and VBridger take up. and the fact that my display is a 4K 60 FPS HDR10 75-inch TV.

 

16 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

You are considering yours old while I'm still rocking a 

• Intel Core i7-4790 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor
• Asus H97M-E/CSM Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
• Crucial Ballistix Sport 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 CL9 Memory (x2)
• EVGA 08G-P4-5180 GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB Video Card

You're still relevant for a few more years.

 

 

But to answer your question ... A platform is old when it no longer meets the needs you have for the workload you're running.

 

 

well some games i want to play wont work the demos like final fantasy 16. i have debated if a cpu upgrade would be worth it to get a good chip with more cores like a i9-11900K that my asrock does support.

[Spring1898]

Need a budget and country 

 

I am not terribly familiar with vtuber requirements but here are a couple pathways and I will make some assumptions

 

1. You need a CPU with more cores and threads to handle these parallel tasks

2. You probably don't need the fastest hardware on the planet at this stage

3. There is budget involved because otherwise you wouldn't be looking at the most economical way

4. You want to continue doing vt into the future and may want to continue to upgrade beyond your present needs.

 

If you can afford it and can build yourself, I think a platform upgrade would be best. Used prices on 10th gen processors are as high as some current and chips for inferior products.

 

AM5 and 7th gen is the best bang for the buck right now. And with all the other things going on when you stream and game something like a Ryzen 7700 would be minimal. That is 8/16 cores and threads. Many streamers find this adequate. But you also have vtuber stuff going on. Maybe that would benefit from more cores going to 7900.

 

32 vs 64 GB of decent 6000mhz cl30 ram. Again with as many simultaneous mixed processes you have going on I'm not sure that the fastest ram would really make that much of a difference. 

 

Mobo of a B650 variety should be sufficient.

 

(Micro center has some pretty good combo deals going on with Ryzen 7 parts if you are in the USA and near one. But if you are not the prices are only about $100 better for the whole package deal. 

 

Your power supply should be good even if you were to upgrade to a 4070 card. But budget wise The used 7800/7900 may be a cheaper option as you state. And if you don't need the extra features that the 4070 offers then there's no reason to pay the extra money.

 

That should put you about $1000 without factoring in what you could sell your parts for.

[Ginny P the VT]

On 11/13/2024 at 7:27 AM, Spring1898 said:

Need a budget and country 

 

I am not terribly familiar with vtuber requirements but here are a couple pathways and I will make some assumptions

 

1. You need a CPU with more cores and threads to handle these parallel tasks

2. You probably don't need the fastest hardware on the planet at this stage

3. There is budget involved because otherwise you wouldn't be looking at the most economical way

4. You want to continue doing vt into the future and may want to continue to upgrade beyond your present needs.

 

If you can afford it and can build yourself, I think a platform upgrade would be best. Used prices on 10th gen processors are as high as some current and chips for inferior products.

 

AM5 and 7th gen is the best bang for the buck right now. And with all the other things going on when you stream and game something like a Ryzen 7700 would be minimal. That is 8/16 cores and threads. Many streamers find this adequate. But you also have vtuber stuff going on. Maybe that would benefit from more cores going to 7900.

 

32 vs 64 GB of decent 6000mhz cl30 ram. Again with as many simultaneous mixed processes you have going on I'm not sure that the fastest ram would really make that much of a difference. 

 

Mobo of a B650 variety should be sufficient.

 

(Micro center has some pretty good combo deals going on with Ryzen 7 parts if you are in the USA and near one. But if you are not the prices are only about $100 better for the whole package deal. 

 

Your power supply should be good even if you were to upgrade to a 4070 card. But budget wise The used 7800/7900 may be a cheaper option as you state. And if you don't need the extra features that the 4070 offers then there's no reason to pay the extra money.

 

That should put you about $1000 without factoring in what you could sell your parts for.

yeah was thinking more CPU cores, least 32gb ram, and a GPU with 16 GB VRAM. was debating if a upgrade using my existing ASRock > B560M-C ad adding a Intel Core i9-11900K, 32gb ddr4, and a RX 7800 XT would give the need oomph with out doing a full rebuild. id like to play my ff7 intergrade, ff15, plus when i can get them for my pc ff16, and ff7 rebirth on my 4k 60hrtz hdr10+ display.

 

main thing i think i need is more cores and threads, more ram, and GPU with 16 GB VRAM. seen support issues on the intel GPUs so thinking AMD will be best bang for the buck. if i did add the Intel Core i9-11900K, i could turn on my second NVMe drive on my ASRock > B560M-C.

[Spring1898]

The 11900k is an 8 core part, about $200+ used.

Your current cpu, if sold, would net you around $50, so a $150 upgrade.

DDR4 would probably be around a $60 kit, minus yours so maybe another $40 cost.

 

Thus you are looking at around $200 for an incremental upgrade on the CPU side. Not bad.

 

I think that may be a bandaid to a full solution, and depending on your finances that may be dictated at this time. But if that enables you to do more for less to save up for a full system build at a later time, that seems reasonable.

 

The 7800xt is independent of the rest of the system you are running so that would be up to you. It is more bang for your buck than a 4070, but no slouch either. You will probably still have to play with some graphical settings to ensure 4k 60fps.

[Ginny P the VT]

On 11/14/2024 at 10:46 PM, Spring1898 said:

The 11900k is an 8 core part, about $200+ used.

Your current cpu, if sold, would net you around $50, so a $150 upgrade.

DDR4 would probably be around a $60 kit, minus yours so maybe another $40 cost.

 

Thus you are looking at around $200 for an incremental upgrade on the CPU side. Not bad.

 

I think that may be a bandaid to a full solution, and depending on your finances that may be dictated at this time. But if that enables you to do more for less to save up for a full system build at a later time, that seems reasonable.

 

The 7800xt is independent of the rest of the system you are running so that would be up to you. It is more bang for your buck than a 4070, but no slouch either. You will probably still have to play with some graphical settings to ensure 4k 60fps.

yeah ideally would love to do a am5 x3d build with a 7800 xt. but on a extremely tight budget of a extra $50 to $100 USD a month left after my Bill on my Very limited US Disability SSD/SSI/State Income. was hoping the i7 giving me 8c/16t and 32gb ddr4 would give a substantial boost to my system resources having to run obs, vtube studio, vbridger, not to mention the games n possibly Spotify with obs controlling audio for sources so i have separate audio tracks for vods and live streams.

[porina]

On the assumption of keeping the existing system going for a bit longer, definitely get more ram. 16GB is already tight for more demanding games by itself.

 

On the CPU, I think this is one of the times I'd take 10th gen over 11th. 10850k and 10900k(F) have 10 cores and in gaming still perform similarly to 11th gen. I feel the extra cores could help out with the VT stuff. I used to stream with a model on 12 core Skylake-X and never felt that run out. I also never came close to maxing out 64GB of ram, but I don't do that much extra outside of OBS and the model.

[Ebony Falcon]

I’d look into a 10900k, much better cpu than the 11900k ( perf went backwards that gen)

and add more ram, can you board handle an i9 tho ??

and u will need a big air cooler or aio for sure

[Ginny P the VT]

On 11/16/2024 at 1:15 PM, porina said:

On the CPU, I think this is one of the times I'd take 10th gen over 11th. 10850k and 10900k(F) have 10 cores and in gaming still perform similarly to 11th gen. I feel the extra cores could help out with the VT stuff. I used to stream with a model on 12 core Skylake-X and never felt that run out. I also never came close to maxing out 64GB of ram, but I don't do that much extra outside of OBS and the model.

looked at 11th gen over 10th gen mainly due to support for the (Socket M2_1 works with 11th Gen Intel® Core™ processors only) **.

 

On 11/16/2024 at 7:11 PM, Ebony Falcon said:

I’d look into a 10900k, much better cpu than the 11900k ( perf went backwards that gen)

and add more ram, can you board handle an i9 tho ??

and u will need a big air cooler or aio for sure

my ASRock B560M-C actually supports up to the i9-11900KF surprisingly.

 

On 11/16/2024 at 1:15 PM, porina said:

On the assumption of keeping the existing system going for a bit longer, definitely get more ram. 16GB is already tight for more demanding games by itself.

i agree the 16gb is defiantly a 4k hdr10+ limiting factor. figured 32gb minimum n maybe up to 64gb for the head room.

 

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I'm guessing to patch this system is a band aid solution as opposed to a fresh build of a am5 x3d, 32gb ddr5, and 7800 xt s more long lived solution. but only having $50 to $100 USD a month to throw at the problem is a major factor as well. honestly wish i could just invest in a 4070 Ti Super for its better encoders for streaming. but nvidia tax is just out my range sadly.

 

so with wanting to play games like Final Fantasy 15, Final Fantasy 7 Intergrade, Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, Lunar the Silver Star Remastered, Lunar 2 Eternal Blue Remastered, and the Kingdom Hearts series at my native 4k 60Hrtz HDR10+. would the band aid solution or a total upgrade be the best option, even though new platform is defiantly more pricy. yes know some those games arnt even out yet but when they due.

[porina]

On 11/17/2024 at 1:11 AM, Ebony Falcon said:

I’d look into a 10900k, much better cpu than the 11900k ( perf went backwards that gen)

and add more ram, can you board handle an i9 tho ??

and u will need a big air cooler or aio for sure

11th gen did increase IPC, but 10th gen has core count advantage. As mentioned previously I do think the extra cores would help more in this use case.

 

Cooling isn't too bad on these. I have 11700k and 7920X (imagine it as like a 12 core 10900k) and both are fine with a decent air cooler.

 

2 hours ago, Ginny P the VT said:

looked at 11th gen over 10th gen mainly due to support for the (Socket M2_1 works with 11th Gen Intel® Core™ processors only) **.

I missed that detail. Yes, 11th gen has extra lanes enabling an M.2 slot that otherwise would be inactive on 10th gen. 

 

2 hours ago, Ginny P the VT said:

I'm guessing to patch this system is a band aid solution as opposed to a fresh build of a am5 x3d, 32gb ddr5, and 7800 xt s more long lived solution. but only having $50 to $100 USD a month to throw at the problem is a major factor as well.

For your existing system, running out of ram is a cheap one you can try to resolve. Getting 2x8GB, or even 2x16GB in addition to what you have already would likely remove that and not cost much.

 

For CPUs, without knowing pricing, if you must have the extra PCIe lanes for M.2, then see if the 11700(k/f) is much cheaper. You only lose a little in clock at same core count. Otherwise I'd still suggest considering 10900(k/f) or similarly 10850.

[Ginny P the VT]

7 hours ago, porina said:

11th gen did increase IPC, but 10th gen has core count advantage. As mentioned previously I do think the extra cores would help more in this use case.

 

Cooling isn't too bad on these. I have 11700k and 7920X (imagine it as like a 12 core 10900k) and both are fine with a decent air cooler.

 

I missed that detail. Yes, 11th gen has extra lanes enabling an M.2 slot that otherwise would be inactive on 10th gen. 

 

For your existing system, running out of ram is a cheap one you can try to resolve. Getting 2x8GB, or even 2x16GB in addition to what you have already would likely remove that and not cost much.

 

For CPUs, without knowing pricing, if you must have the extra PCIe lanes for M.2, then see if the 11700(k/f) is much cheaper. You only lose a little in clock at same core count. Otherwise I'd still suggest considering 10900(k/f) or similarly 10850.

main reason for the 11th gen would be to add a 2tb Gen3 x4 SSD for a Games drive. because of my boot drive is my only drive and 512gb. but yeah if i didn't do a second SSD, then a 10th gen isn't a bad idea. found a reasonable 32GB kit if i replace my 2x 8GB sicks completely.  Do you think some generic no heat sink ram like the Silicon Power DDR4 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 3200MHz (PC4-25600) CL22 UDIMM 288-Pin Desktop Computer Memory SP016GBLFU320B22 would pare with my OEM OLOy 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory? i could aways add some EZDIY-FAB ddr4 RGB heat sinks to make cosmetic fixes. but yeh a generic 2x 8gb kit isn't a bad idea for getting to 32GB cheaply. i figure either the Intel Core i9-10900KF or the Intel® Core™ i9-11900KF. since my motherboard is damaged would get a EZDIY-FAB vertical GPU mount.

 

so the 3 options i see. lowest to highest listed here.

 

Lowest Cost $871.96:

Intel Core i9-10900KF

Silicon Power DDR4 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 3200MHz (PC4-25600) CL22 UDIMM 288-Pin Desktop Computer Memory SP016GBLFU320B22

PowerColor Hellhound Sakura AMD Radeon 7800 XT

 

Mid Cost $985.94:

Intel Core i9-11900KF

Silicon Power DDR4 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 3200MHz (PC4-25600) CL22 UDIMM 288-Pin Desktop Computer Memory SP016GBLFU320B22

TEAMGROUP MP33PRO 2TB SLC Cache 3D NAND TLC NVMe 1.3 PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 Internal SSD R/W Speed Up to 3500/3000 MB/s Laptop & Desktop TM8FPD002T0C101

PowerColor Hellhound Sakura AMD Radeon 7800 XT

 

Highest Cost $???.??:

AMD 9800X3D

ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 280 A-RGB or ARCTIC Freezer 36 A-RGB

32GB DDR5

PowerColor Hellhound Sakura AMD Radeon 7800 XT

AM5 Motherboard with WiFi 7

[porina]

I'm about to go out so only a quick reply. Does your mobo have any other slots that could be adapted for another M.2?

 

If you really are considering 11th gen, I still say also look at 11700(k/f) if it might save you a bit and they're only slightly lower clock than the 11900.

[Spring1898]

If you are going to spend that much, go to AM5 and don't go for the 9800x3d, for most of what you do on the vtuber side, and the gaming performance of the GPU, there will be little to no benefit. You can save a substantial amount using the 9700x and still have a notable performance improvement over your current setup.

 

If you do live near a microcenter, the 9700x, mobo, ram package is $430. Plus your AIO around $100, and your GPU of choice (though I can't say the colour does much for performance vs price. You could almost get a 7900xt for that price. You could also save a couple hundred going with a used 7800xt) and you are into it for $1100, not much more than your other builds.

 

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006970/amd-ryzen-7-9700x,-gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-v2,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

 

You can always upgrade to the 9800x3d later.

[Ginny P the VT]

17 hours ago, porina said:

I'm about to go out so only a quick reply. Does your mobo have any other slots that could be adapted for another M.2?

 

If you really are considering 11th gen, I still say also look at 11700(k/f) if it might save you a bit and they're only slightly lower clock than the 11900.

it has a empty m.2 yes. because the 10th gen i5 i currently wont let it run. if u think then i7 variant might be a wiser investment, ill definitely consider that chip.

 

8 hours ago, Spring1898 said:

If you are going to spend that much, go to AM5 and don't go for the 9800x3d, for most of what you do on the vtuber side, and the gaming performance of the GPU, there will be little to no benefit. You can save a substantial amount using the 9700x and still have a notable performance improvement over your current setup.

 

If you do live near a microcenter, the 9700x, mobo, ram package is $430. Plus your AIO around $100, and your GPU of choice (though I can't say the colour does much for performance vs price. You could almost get a 7900xt for that price. You could also save a couple hundred going with a used 7800xt) and you are into it for $1100, not much more than your other builds.

 

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006970/amd-ryzen-7-9700x,-gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-v2,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

 

You can always upgrade to the 9800x3d later.

well i that was the poupous of my original question actually. with as much as my current platform needs is it better to just do a am5 build at this point. sounds like it might be my best option so far. gpu is one the biggest hits in cost by far. but found i really should run a 16gb vram gpu. because other programs run in the background like wallpaper engine.

 

so ill work up a build for some parts to do a upgrade build on am5 platform on pc part picker that will work with my current case and 650w psu. preferably one that matches my white case with black interior and hints of pink. because wifi saturates the apartment complex where i live have noticed that wifi 7 will be a must. discovered that via trial and error. so am5 motherboard will have both wifi 7 and 2.5 lan or better. burt ill do a parts list today n post it in here to get opinions.

[Ginny P the VT]

okay i put this together. Minimum then Future add ins. I'm listing parts list as well as the individual components. depending how u want to look at the list they are here. AM5 platform will take a long time to build even using my existing Case and PSU. PSU will work but not fully compatible it says. and because my current computer is a System Integrator, not sure my SSD and Windows will transfer. so need the 1TB SSD as a fast boot disk and a copy windows. know cheaper OS solutions exist, but in part picker as a reference. the 2 larger SSDs are for future expansion. The single 1TB already double what i have now. the 3rd bulk storage is for editing streams afterwards for clips.

 

but from all the advice i have gotten, seams like a platform upgrade will be my best option instead of a band aid to my current build.

 

Thanks in Advanced for telling mes if list is any good.

 

Complete Streaming Setup Amazon Wishlist:

https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/20SI4LHE1AY17

 

Eventual Full PC Part Picker List:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tb9ccx

 

Minimum PC Part Picker List:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/64L9Wc

 

List of Reused Parts:

MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower Case

Gigabyte P650G (US) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply

AmazonBasics KU-0833 Wired Standard Keyboard

AmazonBasics MSU0939 Wired Optical Mouse

Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 120 W 2.1-Channel Speakers

SilverStone Technology Wireless Remote Computer Power/Reset Switch, USB 2.0 9-pin ES02-USB

Onkyo - TX-NR6100 7.2 Channel THX Certified Network A/V Receiver

LG QNED80 Series 75-Inch Class QNED Mini LED Smart TV 4K Processor Smart Flat Screen TV for Gaming with Magic Remote AI-Powered 75QNED80URA, 2023 with Alexa Built-in

 

List of Parts to Upgrade my Case:

GRAUGEAR USB3.2 Gen2 10Gbps Front Panel Header Extension Cables, USB-C Male to USB Type-E A-Key Female Cable with Low Profile Bracket and Mount Screws(19.6 in) [G-AD-ETC-10G]

EZDIY-FAB Vertical GPU Mount with High-Speed PCIE 4.0 Riser Cable, ARGB Module, 115mm/4.52in Flexible Extension, 90 Degree Connector, Only Compatible to Full-Opened PCIe Slots-Black-YIHPI344-

 

List for New Parts:

AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor

ARCTIC Freezer 36 A-RGB CPU Cooler

ASRock X870 Pro RS WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard

Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40 Memory

Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

PowerColor Hellhound Sakura OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card

Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - USB 64-bit

 

List for Future Parts:

2nd set of > Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40 Memory

Games SSD > Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

Bulk Storage > Crucial P3 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

[Lurking]

Lots of good advice here and many truisms regarding fps and so on.

 

But don't forget " snappiness" of the newer high performance platform (faster RAM, SSD and probably some bus speeds). maybe it doesn't save my time, but it saves my sanity if a system responds instantly vs. in milliseconds. 

 

No one ever bought a more powerful system (assuming well balanced) and regretted going for a faster system. 

[Spring1898]

Seems reasonable. You don't technically need an x870 motherboard, as unless you require thunderbolt 4 it does not offer you anything more than a B650e does though there may not be any with wifi 7. Is ethernet not an option?. That said the board you selected is only about $50 more expensive than a B650 model.

 

The ram looks pretty but you should probably be looking for DDR5 6000 CL30. CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 RAM 64GB (2x32GB) 6000MHz CL30 CMH64GX5M2B6000C30W or some similar spec

 I would also be inclined to suggest that starting with a 32gb option could save you some money, and then you can see if your specific needs demand 64gb.

 

There should be no issue with the cooler, though I thought you had mentioned the Arctic Liquid Freezer.

 

 

 

[Ginny P the VT]

13 hours ago, Lurking said:

Lots of good advice here and many truisms regarding fps and so on.

 

But don't forget " snappiness" of the newer high performance platform (faster RAM, SSD and probably some bus speeds). maybe it doesn't save my time, but it saves my sanity if a system responds instantly vs. in milliseconds. 

 

No one ever bought a more powerful system (assuming well balanced) and regretted going for a faster system. 

very true and more these final fantasy games pc ports struggle on my current system trying to power the 75 inch 4K 60 Hertz HDR10+TV i use as a monitor.

 

10 hours ago, Spring1898 said:

Seems reasonable. You don't technically need an x870 motherboard, as unless you require thunderbolt 4 it does not offer you anything more than a B650e does though there may not be any with wifi 7. Is ethernet not an option?. That said the board you selected is only about $50 more expensive than a B650 model.

 

The ram looks pretty but you should probably be looking for DDR5 6000 CL30. CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 RAM 64GB (2x32GB) 6000MHz CL30 CMH64GX5M2B6000C30W or some similar spec

 I would also be inclined to suggest that starting with a 32gb option could save you some money, and then you can see if your specific needs demand 64gb.

 

There should be no issue with the cooler, though I thought you had mentioned the Arctic Liquid Freezer.

 

 

 

had thought about the Liquid Cooler yes, opted for a Air Cooler simply due to the fact of lower cost. sounds like a 6000 speed ram is in my better interest though. i chose the x870 bord more or less for the wifi 7 built in on that bord particularly. i cant run a vertical GPU mount adapter and use add in 1/2 high cards sadly. plus this board in particular disables PCIe slot 2 if u use a m.2 in one the ports which hope to eventually. problem with wired is modem cant be relocated and to prevent tripping hazrd for my moms walers or getting in my wheelchair wheels. I'm going to have to use nail down cable clips along base boards and around door frames. i figure a 75 foot run from the modem to a 8 port network switch in my room. would cover, main gaming pc tower, backup gaming laptop to monitor chat, PS5 Disk Fat, Xbox One S, Smart TV/Monitor, and my Onkyo TX-NR6100 Atomos Receiver

[Ginny P the VT]

am i reading the manual wrong? can i have dual m.2 drives with a Intel Core i9-10900KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor? my Boot SSD MSI SPATIUM M450 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive is set up in M.2 Socket (M2_1). so could i add a second SSD to the M.2 Socket (M2_2) then? or would i even need a i9 and could just use my Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor and stock cooler?

 

Manual says this in storage section:

• 6 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s Connectors, support Intel Rapid Storage Technology 18, NCQ, AHCI and Hot Plug*

* If M2_2 is occupied by a SATA-type M.2 device, SATA3_1 will be disabled.

• 2 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s Connectors by ASMedia ASM1061, support NCQ, AHCI and Hot Plug

• 1 x Hyper 1, supports M Key type 2242/2260/2280 M.2 PCI Express module up to Gen4x4 (64 Gb/s) (Socket M2_1 works with 11th Gen Intel® CoreTM processors only)**

• 1 x Ultra M.2 Socket (M2_2), supports M Key type 2280 M.2 SATA3 6.0 Gb/s module and M.2 PCI Express module up to Gen3 x4 (32 Gb/s)**

** Supports NVMe SSD as boot disks

** Supports ASRock U.2 Ki

[Spring1898]

Correct that slot is disabled with 10th gen.

The 11700k is around $200 on Ebay, and gains you 2 cores. Upgrade your bios first if you decide to go that route