I am looking to size-up my motherboard

[xRFKx_Jackal]

The current size of my motherboard is Mini-ITX, I would like to go up in size to Micro-ATX but I cant choose which motherboard is right for me, my only requirements are AM5, DDR5 and must have 2 M.2 slots, I am open to all and any opinions.

[cekcons]

may i know your cpu ?

[xRFKx_Jackal]

Just now, cekcons said:

may i know your cpu ?

My cpu is the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, also I forgor to mention I do need wifi/bluetooth

 

[Blue4130]

14 minutes ago, xRFKx_Jackal said:

The current size of my motherboard is Mini-ITX, I would like to go up in size to Micro-ATX but I cant choose which motherboard is right for me, my only requirements are AM5, DDR5 and must have 2 M.2 slots, I am open to all and any opinions.

Is there something that your current board can't do?

[cekcons]

b650m gaming plus wifi from msi or any b650m with wifi/bluetooth should be the way for you i guess.

[xRFKx_Jackal]

3 minutes ago, Blue4130 said:

Is there something that your current board can't do?

Not really, I am just using the ap-201 from ASUS and it looks very bad with the gap behind the motherboard

[xRFKx_Jackal]

6 minutes ago, cekcons said:

b650m gaming plus wifi from msi or any b650m with wifi/bluetooth should be the way for you i guess.

This seems to have everything I need, one more question though, is quad channel ddr5 really that bad? I have heard quite bad things about doing quad channel ddr5

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https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B650M-Micro-ATX-Warranty-Motherboard/dp/B0BH6XND27/ref=sr_1_11?crid=9SJ2FXKA9AJ2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.KbZIzUArknIoXRUEjP63yk4zl-uI-YfdOTjxcZMblWt8Dks2bVgu76cOEFmlX8le5N6q-IKXzjy1PrHcDqSdYXcekX_j4WMlhVrcGxXlSqynXVqFfAMZYwjsgNIsEovUuDXWpZEivm_l9cmmENz8BGf1KfmVkzE6DhMkWdIaYRcMCCn3k3T0t8V28Du-DcLMlemvg1OXnQeFJCbSOolXy5BKHUqEIqGyfkqtyfo8DNrhadQHW-z1xqXWB5Qfo1gbhTV-eQUoYvFpF7hEGoD80rM6ZFK7m4s5bpVQPSWqxL8.BJ-_RuiOtM8iz_b-oMTOIUtYqQLp3lWNZJTz2Lrl7N0&dib_tag=se&keywords=b650%2Bmotherboard&qid=1731306860&s=electronics&sprefix=B650%2Celectronics%2C200&sr=1-11&th=1

[cekcons]

mobo you send seems fine. But be sure to check your case and angles connectors of mobo. That can be a problem. Like this mobo has 90 degree usb 3.0 connector. Other than that good to go.

 

 

About 4 slot. I used 4x32 gb (2x32 gb ddr5 5600mhz and 2x32 6000 mhz) and worked totaly fine for me. Tho i was using intel.

[xRFKx_Jackal]

Thank you so much for the advice, help, and wise words!!

[Eigenvektor]

10 minutes ago, xRFKx_Jackal said:

one more question though, is quad channel ddr5 really that bad?

Consumer platforms generally don't support quad channel, only dual channel. Using four sticks does not automatically equal quad channel.

 

To answer the question, using four sticks makes it much less likely to run at higher frequencies.

[xRFKx_Jackal]

On 11/11/2024 at 12:54 AM, Eigenvektor said:

Consumer platforms generally don't support quad channel, only dual channel. Using four sticks does not automatically equal quad channel.

 

To answer the question, using four sticks makes it much less likely to run at higher frequencies.

So, what would happen if I were to get 4 sticks of Corsair Vengeance 6000 MHZ and set the frequency to 6400 in bios, I have my current set of memory in that config except im in dual channel, what would happen

[Eigenvektor]

1 hour ago, xRFKx_Jackal said:

So, what would happen if I were to get 4 sticks of Corsair Vengeance 6000 MHZ and set the frequency to 6400 in bios, I have my current set of memory in that config except im in dual channel, what would happen

You'd still run in dual channel, but with two sticks per channel. Depending on whether the sticks are single rank or dual rank, that would cause you to run with dual rank or quad rank per channel.

 

Of course, there's a good chance it won't even boot. Four sticks, especially with quad rank are fairly hard on the CPU's integrated memory controller. An additional overclock on top, good luck.

[xRFKx_Jackal]

6 hours ago, Eigenvektor said:

You'd still run in dual channel, but with two sticks per channel. Depending on whether the sticks are single rank or dual rank, that would cause you to run with dual rank or quad rank per channel.

 

Of course, there's a good chance it won't even boot. Four sticks, especially with quad rank are fairly hard on the CPU's integrated memory controller. An additional overclock on top, good luck.

Alright so, what if I get this memory, DONT overclock it, and just enable EXPO

 

[Blue4130]

15 minutes ago, xRFKx_Jackal said:

Alright so, what if I get this memory, DONT overclock it, and just enable EXPO

 

Enabling EXPO is overclocking it. These are the non-OC speeds depending on ram rank and channel.

2x1R DDR5-5200

2x2RDDR5-5200

4x1RDDR5-3600

4x2RDDR5-3600

[xRFKx_Jackal]

13 minutes ago, Blue4130 said:

Enabling EXPO is overclocking it. These are the non-OC speeds depending on ram rank and channel.

2x1R DDR5-5200

2x2RDDR5-5200

4x1RDDR5-3600

4x2RDDR5-3600

I think I understand now, this would have a negative impact on preformance, would it not?

[longxh]

2 hours ago, xRFKx_Jackal said:

I think I understand now, this would have a negative impact on preformance, would it not?

yes, you want higher capacity dimms for ddr5, not more of them