Need advice on my next CPU for next PC Build...

[mjhcsta]

Hello LTT Forums,

 

I am looking to plan building my next PC Build, I havent built a PC since 2013,

 

I will be finally replacing my potato i7 4770K desktop...

 

Unsure what CPU to go for as i have always been Intel but open to considering AMD especially after all the bad talk about 13th/14th Gen having manufacturing faults etc,

 

I am wondering what's the difference between AMD Ryzen 7 and 9 models of CPU's, are they similar to what Intel Core i7 and i9 were?

 

also wondering is the AMD Ryzen 9800X3D the CPU to consider, as i want to be playing games and editing on this next PC,

 

I hope i can get some insight on What's the best options even interested to hear peoples thoughts on Intel at this point,

 

I hope to hear back from you all very soon.

[TylerD321]

If you want to game and go AMD, 9800x3d is your likely choice. Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 are similar to i7 and i9. Below is an older picture explaining naming scheme but should get the point across how they are named. X3D just means it has 3d cache and that is why it is better for gaming.

 

[RONOTHAN##]

25 minutes ago, mjhcsta said:

I am wondering what's the difference between AMD Ryzen 7 and 9 models of CPU's, are they similar to what Intel Core i7 and i9 were?

In general for desktops, Ryzen 7s are 8 core chips while Ryzen 9s are higher core count models. For a gaming PC, the extra cores of the Ryzen 9s don't usually do much, so sticking with the 7s is usually fine, but compare each individual chip rather than just looking at the label. It gets weird with laptops, to the point I don't fully understand their naming conventions there, so I'd ignore the number out front and only look at benchmarks if that's what you're curious about. 

 

25 minutes ago, mjhcsta said:

also wondering is the AMD Ryzen 9800X3D the CPU to consider, as i want to be playing games and editing on this next PC,

Yes. The 9800X3D is the fastest gaming CPU right now, by quite a bit, and while it's not as good as editing as something like the 7950X, it'll still be miles ahead of your 4770k so I wouldn't really consider that a downside. 

 

25 minutes ago, mjhcsta said:

even interested to hear peoples thoughts on Intel at this point,

I won't recommend them, at least for a while. If I am building a system for myself, it is usually going to be Intel, but that's more because I find the act of building and tuning a computer more fun than actually playing games on it, and Intel chips in general I just find more fun than AMD. Unless you fall into the same category of weirdo as me, stick with AMD right now, and even if you are going AMD is still probably the better call. 

[Conza]

Top of the charts certainly is the 9800X3D, but, it's worth considering what your overall budget would be.

 

I'd probably be considering

9800X3D - $479 USD when in stock right now

7700/X - ~$270-290 USD

7600/X - ~190 USD

7500F - ~130-150 USD (via overseas retailers, mostly in China)

Then below that, really it's left to the 5600. The 5700X3D is great for those already on AM4, but if building into it right now you'd only really consider it as the budget route, and instead go for a 7600 at the same price on AM5.

 

Intel is completely uncompetitive at this point in time across all segments of DIY, they've lost the entry level to AM4 builds, they've lost the mid-range to the 7500F-7700 and they've lost the high end to the 9800X3D (even the 7800X3D before that).

 

So it all comes down to your budget and how much you're willing to spend more for better editing performance.

 

[mjhcsta]

I'm wondering about if i decide to go for a Ryzen 9 CPU like the Ryzen 9 9950X how that CPU will compare to say the Ryzen 7 9800X3D?

 

I am just wanting to make sure i can do editing, Live Streaming via OBS and do PCVR,

 

Just trying to work out what's the best Ryzen 9 CPU to get for all of my needs,

 

Obviously is all depends on the price difference between both CPU's as prices here in the UK are wild in general

[Conza]

4 hours ago, mjhcsta said:

I'm wondering about if i decide to go for a Ryzen 9 CPU like the Ryzen 9 9950X how that CPU will compare to say the Ryzen 7 9800X3D?

 

I am just wanting to make sure i can do editing, Live Streaming via OBS and do PCVR,

 

Just trying to work out what's the best Ryzen 9 CPU to get for all of my needs,

 

Obviously is all depends on the price difference between both CPU's as prices here in the UK are wild in general

The 9950X is probably not worth looking at, even if you're a video editor, there really isn't much in it so you may as well consider 8 cores options instead. I wouldn't look at any Ryzen 9, pretty much.

 

What's your intended overall PC Budget do you think? People can then offer you full builds to give you an idea.

[mjhcsta]

22 hours ago, Conza said:

The 9950X is probably not worth looking at, even if you're a video editor, there really isn't much in it so you may as well consider 8 cores options instead. I wouldn't look at any Ryzen 9, pretty much.

 

What's your intended overall PC Budget do you think? People can then offer you full builds to give you an idea.

I was planning to just buy parts each month as i go, like i did in 2013, took me around 8 months i'd buy parts every few months, last part i bought was my GTX Titan Black SC which years later i eventually replaced with my current RTX 2070

 

I plan to salvage my ssds drives and RTX 2070 move into the new build then as time goes on upgrade the gpu,

 

Think i'll settle on a PC case, Motherboard, CPU, AIO, RAM at the same time, then around april time get the rest of the components like PSU etc

 

like to think if i start before Dec i'll have the build done by April time,

 

I plan this build to last me for the best part of 10 years like this current build has done me well,

 

I'm still using my i7 4770K build daily to play games, edit, videos, photography etc,

 

Would like to finally upgrade as i was waiting until 2020 but pandemic killed my hopes same with the PC market at the time with scalpers etc,

 

Now seems like a good time to finally commit especially now that we have a CPU worthy of a upgrade i feel

[Conza]

7 hours ago, mjhcsta said:

I was planning to just buy parts each month as i go, like i did in 2013, took me around 8 months i'd buy parts every few months, last part i bought was my GTX Titan Black SC which years later i eventually replaced with my current RTX 2070

 

I plan to salvage my ssds drives and RTX 2070 move into the new build then as time goes on upgrade the gpu,

 

Think i'll settle on a PC case, Motherboard, CPU, AIO, RAM at the same time, then around april time get the rest of the components like PSU etc

 

like to think if i start before Dec i'll have the build done by April time,

 

I plan this build to last me for the best part of 10 years like this current build has done me well,

 

I'm still using my i7 4770K build daily to play games, edit, videos, photography etc,

 

Would like to finally upgrade as i was waiting until 2020 but pandemic killed my hopes same with the PC market at the time with scalpers etc,

 

Now seems like a good time to finally commit especially now that we have a CPU worthy of a upgrade i feel

I did something similar in 2017, I bought everything, then I bought the GPU last, can relate, took me around 3 weeks extra but was well worth waiting to get the GPU I could afford just a bit later on (1080ti lucky me).

 

Only caution is, make sure you have enough parts to test everything as you're going, especially if it's a long time between purchase. Would hate to have the AIO fail several months after purchase, if it's only been a few weeks, easier to take it back.

 

Would suggest a compromise of, try to get a working system with your existing GPU and SSDs, then can upgrade the GPU later.

 

Longevity is all subjective and relative, the only "future proofing" you can do is buying at the maximum of your budget for your needs now, there will always be something faster and better before too long. It's nice to have 'the best' or even really new and really good, but nothing lasts forever at the top.