How do I setup a homelab on an isolated network?

[runvarbinusr]

PS: I am aware of tailscale, I currently use it, however the ping is too high for some of my use cases, I need a legitimate physical local network

 

Hi, im trying to setup a homelab in my flat, each flat is given 1 RJ45 port, the whole accommodation's network has mac address isolation, so none of my devices can communicate with each other, therefore getting a switch will not solve my problem. Can someone tell me what kind of router I need to buy to "forward" the internet from that port and create my own local network on the router, thank you

[TubsAlwaysWins]

8 minutes ago, runvarbinusr said:

PS: I am aware of tailscale, I currently use it, however the ping is too high for some of my use cases, I need a legitimate physical local network

 

Hi, im trying to setup a homelab in my flat, each flat is given 1 RJ45 port, the whole accommodation's network has mac address isolation, so none of my devices can communicate with each other, therefore getting a switch will not solve my problem. Can someone tell me what kind of router I need to buy to "forward" the internet from that port and create my own local network on the router, thank you

I would think any router should work, you just need to pick one with the features you want. Do you want VLANS? Does it need to have its own wireless? 

Something to be aware of is you will probably be behind a Double NAT when doing this. 

[runvarbinusr]

3 minutes ago, TubsAlwaysWins said:

any router should work

OEM Routers don't work since they almost never have a WAN RJ45 port, and they are always the cheapest option lol

[Lurick]

12 minutes ago, runvarbinusr said:

OEM Routers don't work since they almost never have a WAN RJ45 port, and they are always the cheapest option lol

What?

Almost all consumer routers have a specific WAN port. Some even have two these days.

[Lurick]

16 minutes ago, runvarbinusr said:

OEM Routers don't work since they almost never have a WAN RJ45 port, and they are always the cheapest option lol

10 seconds on Amazon for gigabit router:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-MU-MIMO-Wireless-Supports-Parental/dp/B0845XD62P

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tenda-Wi-Fi-Router-AX3000-Antennas/dp/B09M2JRFVQ

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-AXE5400-OneMeshTMand-HomeShield-Compatible/dp/B09VPRWGR7

[runvarbinusr]

5 minutes ago, Lurick said:

What?

Almost all consumer routers have a specific WAN port. Some even have two these days.

Most have their own proprietary non standard WAN porn which isn't RJ45

[Lurick]

1 minute ago, runvarbinusr said:

Most have their own proprietary non standard WAN porn which isn't RJ45

No they don't, Ethernet is a global standard, they do NOT use random standards just for lulz.

Gigabit router turns of hundreds of results proving you wrong.

Unless you search DSL gigabit router or Coax gigabit router

[Agall]

18 minutes ago, Lurick said:

What?

Almost all consumer routers have a specific WAN port. Some even have two these days.

OP did say OEM routers, so I take that as the ones you rent from your ISP.

[Agall]

31 minutes ago, runvarbinusr said:

OEM Routers don't work since they almost never have a WAN RJ45 port, and they are always the cheapest option lol

If you have a LAN connection coming into your flat, I suspect the landlord supplies the ISP connection to each location. I had an apartment that did this, instead of coax/fiber going in, you had an RJ-45 connection that you'd usually hook a router up to for more than one connection.

 

A lot of consumer routers have VLANNing functionality, otherwise, you can buy a little managed 3-5 port switch for really cheap that'll let you segregate this homelab LAN from your main network with the option of opening it up to WAN when necessary.

[runvarbinusr]

9 minutes ago, Agall said:

OP did say OEM routers, so I take that as the ones you rent from your ISP.

This is what I meant, I should have been clearer tbh

[Agall]

1 minute ago, runvarbinusr said:

This is what I meant, I should have been clearer tbh

Yeah, I imagine it depends on the ISP. I've always bought my own modem and router, but I've seen plenty of modem+router combo units from various ISPs living around the US that do allow you to disable the routing functionality and only use them as a modem (with its 'WAN' port to hook up your own router).

 

Personally, I do this with a Sonicwall TZ270W, but that's an extreme solution in comparison. I operate/manage a larger model at work, so there was no learning curve for me in learning how to configure interfaces and access rules.

 

Those little managed switches I haven't had to use yet, but it should be as simple as accessing its webpage to create/modify VLANNing settings on each port. Most mid-high end consumer wireless routers have this functionality too.

[Lurick]

33 minutes ago, runvarbinusr said:

This is what I meant, I should have been clearer tbh

That's completely different in my mind, lol

If you just need a router then check out my other post with non-ISP based routers since that's all you seem to need.

[Blue4130]

4 hours ago, runvarbinusr said:

This is what I meant, I should have been clearer tbh

Unless it is an ONT/Router or a modem/router it will be either rj45 or sfp. Do you have a picture of what you mean by an OEM non-rj45 WAN port? My guess is that you are not looking at a router.