i9 14900k Idling at 70-80c, 8% utilization. HELP!

[crispyaus]

Hi guys, first post here.

 

I built my PC recently. And need some help with my temps!

SPECS:

CPU: i9 14900k

GPU: 4080 Super

RAM: 64gb DDR5

Cooling: AIO

 

My CPU is idling at 80 C when my fan preset is on balanced in iCue and at around 60 C when on extreme preset (2000rpm).

Using HWINFO64, here are my idle temps:

 

I am posting because I was just playing Bo6 and noticed my PC FLASHING RED. lol

First time it has ever done this, and the heat it was generating was insane. I instantly alt f4ed and let it cool down.

 

I know there has been issues with new gen temps and crashing? Do I possibly need a bios update/settings change in my bios?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated guys! Thanks.

 

[Average Nerd]

How big is your AIO radiator?

[crispyaus]

1 minute ago, Average Nerd said:

How big is your AIO radiator?

Uh, takes up the whole top of the case end to end

[Needfuldoer]

Is your AIO pump running?

Are you on the latest, post-voltage-fix BIOS for your motherboard?

[crispyaus]

1 minute ago, Needfuldoer said:

Is your AIO pump running?

Are you on the latest, post-voltage-fix BIOS for your motherboard?

I would assume its running, how do I definitely check this?
> Are you on the latest, post-voltage-fix BIOS for your motherboard?
I haven't heard anything about this, would this be why?

[Average Nerd]

Just now, crispyaus said:

I would assume its running, how do I definitely check this?

Look for the fan speeds in HWinfo, none of them should be at 0rpm.

[crispyaus]

1 minute ago, Average Nerd said:

Look for the fan speeds in HWinfo, none of them should be at 0rpm.

Sorry where do I check fans in HWinfo? cant find it on sensors page

[Average Nerd]

3 minutes ago, crispyaus said:

Sorry where do I check fans in HWinfo? cant find it on sensors page

They should be in the mobo section of the sensor page IIRC.

[crispyaus]

1 minute ago, Average Nerd said:

They should be in the mobo section of the sensor page IIRC.

[Average Nerd]

2 minutes ago, crispyaus said:

The Section called "MSI Z790-A MAX WIFI...." should include the fan speeds, unless iCue is not letting HWinfo see the sensors.

[crispyaus]

Just now, Average Nerd said:

The Section called "MSI Z790-A MAX WIFI...." should include the fan speeds, unless iCue is not letting HWinfo see the sensors.

Yes seems pump is working

[Tridefender]

1.4v on idle? oh my...

[crispyaus]

6 minutes ago, Tridefender said:

1.4v on idle? oh my...

heh.. is this bad?

[Tridefender]

1 minute ago, crispyaus said:

heh.. is this bad?

My 12 gen does 1.1v on full fpu load, well it's b660 but your voltages are very high. 1.4v at idle, how much do you need for it to run full?

[Average Nerd]

4 minutes ago, crispyaus said:

heh.. is this bad?

Definitely update your BIOS to the latest version (manufacturers website), and then check if the temps (and voltage) are lower.

13th and 14th gen intel processors have a bug that causes the voltage to be very high, leading to degradation.

[crispyaus]

5 minutes ago, Tridefender said:

My 12 gen does 1.1v on full fpu load, well it's b660 but your voltages are very high. 1.4v at idle, how much do you need for it to run full?

I just did a small test. Seems like my fans didn't even ramp up that much. In iCue software the sensor for my fan curve is set to the Coolant tempature.

These are the only sensors i can change to:

[Haswellx86]

I can't believe that how nobody is suspecting the applied thermal paste or the contact between the processor package and the cooler.

 

46 minutes ago, crispyaus said:

My CPU is idling

11% utilization on a 32 thread processor, with 307 processes and 22 GB memory usage is not called idling. I don't have experience with such an high end system, so if there is any small chance you actually don't have anything main running in the background, then holy, definitely sucks to use Windows.

 

18 minutes ago, crispyaus said:

heh.. is this bad?

With my theoretical experience, I think it is bad and is also the voltage that it used to run on the older microcode. Please update your firmware with the new microcode if you want to stop degrading your new processor (unless you were living under a rock and don't know what I am talking about and if so, stop touching too much grass). You might try some undervolting if that helps.

 

19 minutes ago, Tridefender said:

My 12 gen does 1.1v on full fpu load

With my knowledge, I think voltages drop under full load because your processor is not running at it its maximum frequency because of reasons. It's the single core load with no limitations which spikes the voltage the highest. More voltage is only needed for more clock speed. 12th gen ran at quite a bit lower clock speeds out of the box than 13th gen, and you didn't even mention which model you have, which could make it run at even lower clock speeds, resulting in lesser voltage requirement.

[Mark Kaine]

1 hour ago, crispyaus said:

haven't heard anything about this, would this be why?

well, yes, at least a high probability...

 

update your BIOS with the newest "microcode" thingy that's available from mobo manufacturer. 

 

although i think its possible the chip already degraded, but still what you should do ASAP.

 

 

[Tridefender]

28 minutes ago, Haswellx86 said:

I think voltages drop under full load

I actually use c states and balanced power settings so the voltages are lower and CPU stops boosting at idle.

 

Else where I see 14900k doing about 1.2-1.3v at idle so I would say it's high.

[Needfuldoer]

28 minutes ago, Haswellx86 said:

I can't believe that how nobody is suspecting the applied thermal paste or the contact between the processor package and the cooler.

Perfectly applied thermal paste won't make much of a difference if there's too much voltage being fed into the CPU. Get heat generation under control first, then worry about heat dissipation.

 

In this case, OP needs to update their BIOS so they get the overvoltage bug fix.

[Haswellx86]

56 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

Perfectly applied thermal paste won't make much of a difference if there's too much voltage being fed into the CPU. Get heat generation under control first, then worry about heat dissipation.

Isn't the problem of OP too high temps at idle? I was suggesting OP to check thermal paste and cooler mounting. Voltage was other discussion.

[crispyaus]

Just to document for others who might find this topic.

Volts idle before bios update: 

[crispyaus]

38 minutes ago, crispyaus said:

Just to document for others who might find this topic.

Volts idle before bios update: 

After bios update, idle:

 

My CPU Package is AVG at 49 C as of now. Do you guys think this has fixed the issue possibly?