To buy or not to buy

[TristenM]

Budget (including currency): ~$1000 CAD

Country: Canada, BC, Vancouver Island

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1080p gaming,  audio recording for social media

 

Other details 75hz ASUS monitor, have peripherals including mic/mouse/keyboard already

 

 

Hello friends,

I'm considering purchasing a second hand PC off of Facebook Marketplace, appears to be a reputable seller

 

My current specs are:

CPU: i5 3570k @ 3.4ghz

PSU: 450w Corsair

MB: ASRock Z77 Extreme4

GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 960

RAM: 16gb

Storage: Samsung SSD 860 evo 500gb

 

 

PC in question is:
ROG STRIX G10CES

 

CPU: Intel 11th gen i5-11400f

GPU: Asus GeForce RTX 3060

RAM: 16GB 

 

He's asking for $1,000.00CAD, and is flexible on price. 

Said he purchased 1-year ago from BestBuy as a prebuilt. 

 

Thank you in advance

 

[podkall]

Looks decent for 1000CAD, though I'd look for details on other parts if possible, PSU might be barebones (and that can be ok at times), but what about HDD/SSD, Motherboard, cooling?

[TristenM]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

1 minute ago, podkall said:

Looks decent for 1000CAD, though I'd look for details on other parts if possible, PSU might be barebones (and that can be ok at times), but what about HDD/SSD, Motherboard, cooling?

He hasn’t provided all details yet, awaiting a response.

Ive attached the photos in the listing here!

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, TristenM said:

He hasn’t provided all details yet, awaiting a response.

Ive attached the photos in the listing here!

Do you need Nvidia GPU for your tasks/games?

[TristenM]

Just now, podkall said:

Do you need Nvidia GPU for your tasks/games?

Not necessarily,

I’ve a history of using Nvidia GPUs

660ti, 960, 970..

Familiar with them, and looks like stock cooler!

[podkall]

Just now, TristenM said:

Not necessarily,

I’ve a history of using Nvidia GPUs

660ti, 960, 970..

Familiar with them, and looks like stock cooler!

Indeed, stock would be able to draw 11400F, my main concern is value here, you could get 5600 Ryzen system, perhaps even 12th gen Intel system.

 

they offer 11th gen midrange for 1000CAD, you can get 1 gen later AMD system, for less:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9zzj4p

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.00 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($39.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: *FanXiang S500 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: *Asus Dual GeForce RTX 3060 V2 OC Edition GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  ($378.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $931.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-05 21:06 EST-0500

[TristenM]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

Indeed, stock would be able to draw 11400F, my main concern is value here, you could get 5600 Ryzen system, perhaps even 12th gen Intel system.

 

they offer 11th gen midrange for 1000CAD, you can get 1 gen later AMD system, for less:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9zzj4p

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.00 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($39.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: *FanXiang S500 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: *Asus Dual GeForce RTX 3060 V2 OC Edition GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  ($378.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $931.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-05 21:06 EST-0500

Incredibly helpful,

 

If he was willing to drop significantly from the $1000 price point, IE: $800, would it still be worth pursuing the aforementioned AMD setup?

 

 

[podkall]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

Indeed, stock would be able to draw 11400F, my main concern is value here, you could get 5600 Ryzen system, perhaps even 12th gen Intel system.

 

they offer 11th gen midrange for 1000CAD, you can get 1 gen later AMD system, for less:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9zzj4p

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.00 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($39.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: *FanXiang S500 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: *Asus Dual GeForce RTX 3060 V2 OC Edition GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  ($378.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $931.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-05 21:06 EST-0500

Cheaper AMD GPU on similar raster performance as 3060:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/fmy32x

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.00 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($39.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: *FanXiang S500 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: Asus DUAL V2 Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  ($264.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $816.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-05 21:07 EST-0500

 

Then faster AMD raster performing GPU compared to 3060:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/8vzj4p

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.00 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($39.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: *FanXiang S500 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: *PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card  ($378.53 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $930.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-05 21:09 EST-0500

[TristenM]

4 minutes ago, podkall said:

Cheaper AMD GPU on similar raster performance as 3060:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/fmy32x

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.00 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($39.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: *FanXiang S500 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: Asus DUAL V2 Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  ($264.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $816.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-05 21:07 EST-0500

 

Then faster AMD raster performing GPU compared to 3060:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/8vzj4p

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.00 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($39.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: *FanXiang S500 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: *PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card  ($378.53 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $930.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-05 21:09 EST-0500

A lot to think about for certain.

 

If he was to drop significantly below the $1000 mark do you think it’s worth considering still?

[podkall]

1 minute ago, TristenM said:

Incredibly helpful,

 

If he was willing to drop significantly from the $1000 price point, IE: $800, would it still be worth pursuing the aforementioned AMD setup?

 

 

Well, that depends, if you value more performance and newer platform.

 

Or if you value not spending too much.

 

The Ryzen system is on a newer platform, where you have the option of swapping to 5700x3D later.

 

The 11400f isn't that much slower than 5600, so there's some performance/CAD for 11400F.

 

Hard to tell if the motherboard will handle 11700 i7, maybe in gaming, maybe barely.

 

  

2 minutes ago, TristenM said:

A lot to think about for certain.

 

If he was to drop significantly below the $1000 mark do you think it’s worth considering still?

The choice really comes down to the cost/platform/convenience.

[TristenM]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

Well, that depends, if you value more performance and newer platform.

 

Or if you value not spending too much.

 

The Ryzen system is on a newer platform, where you have the option of swapping to 5700x3D later.

 

The 11400f isn't that much slower than 5600, so there's some performance/CAD for 11400F.

 

Hard to tell if the motherboard will handle 11700 i7, maybe in gaming, maybe barely.

 

  

The choice really comes down to the cost/platform/convenience.

I’ll see where he’s at cost wise, if he drops significantly below the $1000 mark it would be hard not to consider it the best option, however if I’m prepared to spend $1000 anyway… then may as well go with newest option / value for dollar. 
 

 

Podkall, you have been extremely helpful. I thank you, friend. 

[podkall]

Just now, TristenM said:

I’ll see where he’s at cost wise, if he drops significantly below the $1000 mark it would be hard not to consider it the best option, however if I’m prepared to spend $1000 anyway… then may as well go with newest option / value for dollar. 
 

 

Podkall, you have been extremely helpful. I thank you, friend. 

no problem, I will be here tomorrow most likely, so any further questions I will get to, as of now I am going offline (I am from EU)

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jPPLrM

5600(x) + 6800(xt) + 32gb 3200c16

 

even 800cad is pretty pathetic for that spec when you consider the parts you can get used and new at a similar price (albiet probably 6700xt not 6800 if you wanna hit 800cad which will annihilate the 3060 and beat the 3070)

 

the used prices (cpu gpu) are just assumptions for what they go for so correct me if im wrong on those