Power set balance - Still maxed out! - CPU C-states

[Empire24453]

Hello people.

 

I noted that my clock speeds are always maxed out. While that's alright, I see it's pointless to see the CPU at maxed while idle doing nothing while tamps are at 30c to 35c. I'm on an I7 10700k that's running at 4.9. Both 4.9 and 5.0 are stable, and I can also push it to 5.2 if I want to, but nope. 

 

Right now it's at 4.9 rather than 5 as it keeps the temps lower, however still maxed all the time. Windows Power Manager is set to balance and still high. So it's down to my C-states in the bios as that's set to disable. I was going to set it enabled but that's not going to make some users' experience in some gaming worse Xd 

 

What I'm missing? 

[Kilrah]

Nothing? Sounds you're forcing your CPU to run full blast all the time so that's what it's doing.

[Empire24453]

3 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Nothing? Sounds you're forcing your CPU to run full blast all the time so that's what it's doing.

with it disabled yeah, if I enable it, the gaming point of view would give some stutters and latency - then again I do MSFS mostly....

 

Right?

[Tridefender]

Use Throttlestop to set the speedshift to 128 instead of 0

[xAcid9]

1 minute ago, Empire24453 said:

with it disabled yeah, if I enable it, the gaming point of view would give some stutters and latency - then again I do MSFS mostly....

 

Right?

Placebo? or you have data to back that up? 

[Kilrah]

3 minutes ago, Empire24453 said:

if I enable it, the gaming point of view would give some stutters and latency - then again I do MSFS mostly....

 

Right?

Try it and see if it actually matters, probably won't. 

 

If you enable C-states but select performance in windows it should run full speed all the time, so you could just swap between performance and balanced in windows when playing instead of going into the BIOS each time. But disabling C-states in the BIOS essentially means there's no more difference between balanced and performance since you disabled what it uses to differ between the 2.

[Tetras]

47 minutes ago, Empire24453 said:

So it's down to my C-states in the bios as that's set to disable. I was going to set it enabled but that's not going to make some users' experience in some gaming worse Xd 

 

What I'm missing? 

Disabling c-states for gaming used to be a thing once (especially in combination with a static overclock, to help with stability), but nowadays I don't think anybody bothers with it. As said above, there's no harm in trying it and see what you think, reverting is just a few clicks.

[Empire24453]

1 hour ago, Kilrah said:

Try it and see if it actually matters, probably won't. 

 

If you enable C-states but select performance in windows it should run full speed all the time, so you could just swap between performance and balanced in windows when playing instead of going into the BIOS each time. But disabling C-states in the BIOS essentially means there's no more difference between balanced and performance since you disabled what it uses to differ between the 2.

Cstates is enabled but seems it's still maxed out even in balanced mod Xd Still on windows 11 23H2

 

@Tetras You're right, nowadays it doesn't matter... 

[Tetras]

9 hours ago, Empire24453 said:

Cstates is enabled but seems it's still maxed out even in balanced mod Xd Still on windows 11 23H2

The Intel settings for power management are CStates, EIST/SpeedStep (OS-control) and Speed Shift (hardware control). You may also need to disable any overclock settings like a fixed voltage or multiplier/frequency for the CPU to resume frequency/power management.

 

Note that power plans can be edited and you can end up with a high minimum CPU state even on a balanced profile.