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Do I need a KVM?

Budget (including currency): 150

Country: CAD

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 2 computers, 3 monitors

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

So I recently found out about something called KVMs, which can be used to run 2+ computers with 1+ screens. My current setup I have 2 machines and 3 screens and I have a USB hub which I use to switch my peripherals over like KBM, mixamp and mic. I wanted to know if I could use a KVM and how they work? I have 3 screens: MSI G272QPF, Asus VG278, and HP E24u G4. The MSI I run @ 1440p 165Hz, the Asus I run at 1080p @ 165Hz  and the HP is @ 1080p 60hz. Is there a KVM which will fit all these needs for me? Thank you in advance! 

 

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14 minutes ago, b24567 said:

Budget (including currency): 150

Country: CAD

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 2 computers, 3 monitors

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

So I recently found out about something called KVMs, which can be used to run 2+ computers with 1+ screens. My current setup I have 2 machines and 3 screens and I have a USB hub which I use to switch my peripherals over like KBM, mixamp and mic. I wanted to know if I could use a KVM and how they work? I have 3 screens: MSI G272QPF, Asus VG278, and HP E24u G4. The MSI I run @ 1440p 165Hz, the Asus I run at 1080p @ 165Hz  and the HP is @ 1080p 60hz. Is there a KVM which will fit all these needs for me? Thank you in advance!

Expanding on @ToboRobot's response, I myself own a Level1Techs KVM (a 4 PC 1 Monitor USB-C Display Port KVM).

 

I went for this because:

I have 3 machines I need to keep an eye on, but hated having 3 keyboards and 2 mice.

Also, while I have 5 monitors total, 2 of my machines don't do anything that requires more than 1 monitor.

 

The quality of the Level1Techs KVMs is excellent from my experiance, with only very rare moments where it plays up. However, I would personnally recommend you get the HDMI model because those come with built in EDID cloning which makes the experiance of switching from one machine to another far smoother. That said, if you have to use DP to HDMI (or HDMI to DP) cables and vice verse in order to connect the computers to the KVM (or the KVM to the monitors) you do run a slight risk that the KVM won't output video correctly.

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16 minutes ago, ToboRobot said:

 

Thanks! This definitely explains what a KVM is and that I need one to get rid of my rats nest LOL. 

Im seeing this one which would work well 
https://www.store.level1techs.com/products/p/14-kvm-switch-dual-monitor-2computer-z5erd-n6mbj

But 449$ is very pricey, are there any alternatives? Im not familiar with the pricing of KVMs so is this the price range I should be expecting to spend?

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10 minutes ago, b24567 said:

Thanks! This definitely explains what a KVM is and that I need one to get rid of my rats nest LOL. 

Im seeing this one which would work well 
https://www.store.level1techs.com/products/p/14-kvm-switch-dual-monitor-2computer-z5erd-n6mbj

But 449$ is very pricey, are there any alternatives? Im not familiar with the pricing of KVMs so is this the price range I should be expecting to spend?

Lvl1Tech's KVMs are great quality, but yes they are expensive. There are cheaper options, but they usually have some big draw backs.

 

Also, see my message above about Display Port v HDMI KVMs, as the lack of EDID cloners can be very annoying on the Display Port models.

 

One question I have is do both your machines need access to atleast 2 monitors? for example, If your running a NAS as the second computer, you could probably do with just buying a single monitor two computers KVM.

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! Expand for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components and other tech. I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need.

 

Common build advice: 1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm.

 

useful websiteshttps://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

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I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 3 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). While I believe I have an decent amount of experience in spec’ing, building and troubleshooting computers, keep in mind I'm not an expert or a professional and I make mistakes.

 

Favourite Games of all time: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii

 

Main PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C

 

Secondary PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P

 

TrueNAS Server: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C

 

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Other: LTT Screwdriver, LTT Stubby Screwdriver, IFIXIT Pro Tech Toolkit, Playstation 1 SCPH-102, Playstation 2 SCPH-30003, Gameboy Micro Silver OXY-001, Nintendo Wii U WUP-001(03), Playstation 4 CUH-1116A, Nintendo Switch OLED HEG-001, Yamaha RX-A4A Black AV Receiver, Monitor Audio Radius (4*90s, 1*200s, 2*270s, 1*380s), TP-Link TL-SG105-M2, Netgear GS308, IPhone 14 Pro Max 128GB Space Black, Secretlab TITAN Evo (Black SoftWeave Plus Fabric), 2*CyberPower BR1200ELCD-UK BRICs Series, Samsung 40" ES6800 Series 6 SMART 3D FHD LED TV, UGREEN USB 3.2 Gen 2 10Gbps M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, SABRENT 3.5" SATA drive docking station

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Am I weird that I monitor and use my other machines mostly by remote connection to them when needed?

I use remmina from my ubuntu desktop to connect to windows machines, and just the terminal to connect to other linux machines mostly, if I don't need a GUI to do what I need. |For OMV I use either the webGUI or terminal depending on needs. With the windows machines there can sometimes be a bit of latency issue, but it's not that big of a deal for what I need to do.

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1 hour ago, will0hlep said:

Lvl1Tech's KVMs are great quality, but yes they are expensive. There are cheaper options, but they usually have some big draw backs.

 

Also, see my message above about Display Port v HDMI KVMs, as the lack of EDID cloners can be very annoying on the Display Port models.

 

One question I have is do both your machines need access to atleast 2 monitors? for example, If your running a NAS as the second computer, you could probably do with just buying a single monitor two computers KVM.

As far as I know the only way to get 4k @ 144Hz on the MSI is through Display port which is why I prefer to use the Display port version. But if the performance/experience is bad I would be open to using HDMI. 

My setup is made up of 2 machines a work one and a personal one. I rarely have both of them on at the same time and my current setup of having 1 output go to the work docking station and the other going to my personal machine works fine. But I really want to find a way to clear all the wires that I have, ideally using a KVM will cut the amount of display wires I have in half and also make it easier to cable manage my keyboard, mouse, mixamp and mic to an easy spot. 

If I'm not using both the machines at the same time, do I need a KVM? 

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1 minute ago, b24567 said:

As far as I know the only way to get 4k @ 144Hz on the MSI is through Display port which is why I prefer to use the Display port version. But if the performance/experience is bad I would be open to using HDMI. 

My setup is made up of 2 machines a work one and a personal one. I rarely have both of them on at the same time and my current setup of having 1 output go to the work docking station and the other going to my personal machine works fine. But I really want to find a way to clear all the wires that I have, ideally using a KVM will cut the amount of display wires I have in half and also make it easier to cable manage my keyboard, mouse, mixamp and mic to an easy spot. 

If I'm not using both the machines at the same time, do I need a KVM? 

If both machines arn't running at the same time and your not frequently switching between them, EDID cloners don't matter very much and the Display Port ones would be fine.

 

That said, in the situation your describing a KVM just seems like complete overkill. If the monitors have multiple inputs they will switch input automatically when one machine is turned off and the other switched on, so adding a KVM will just increase the complexity of your setup and add more wires there.

 

And if you wouldn't be using the KVM for monitor switching, it would be no different to a switchable USB hub (that you connect to two computers and hit a button to switch between them).

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! Expand for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components and other tech. I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need.

 

Common build advice: 1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm.

 

useful websiteshttps://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

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I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 3 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). While I believe I have an decent amount of experience in spec’ing, building and troubleshooting computers, keep in mind I'm not an expert or a professional and I make mistakes.

 

Favourite Games of all time: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii

 

Main PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C

 

Secondary PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P

 

TrueNAS Server: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C

 

Laptop: 13.4" ASUS GZ301ZE ROG Flow Z13, WUXGA 120Hz, i9 12900H, 16GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, 4GB RTX 3050 Ti, TB4, Win11 Home, Used with: 2*ThinkPad Universal Thunderbolt 4 Dock, Logitech G603, Logitech G502 Hero, Logitech K120, Logitech G915 TKL, Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2, Logitech G PRO X Gaming-Headset (with Blue Icepop in Black), {specs to be updated: two monitors}

 

Other: LTT Screwdriver, LTT Stubby Screwdriver, IFIXIT Pro Tech Toolkit, Playstation 1 SCPH-102, Playstation 2 SCPH-30003, Gameboy Micro Silver OXY-001, Nintendo Wii U WUP-001(03), Playstation 4 CUH-1116A, Nintendo Switch OLED HEG-001, Yamaha RX-A4A Black AV Receiver, Monitor Audio Radius (4*90s, 1*200s, 2*270s, 1*380s), TP-Link TL-SG105-M2, Netgear GS308, IPhone 14 Pro Max 128GB Space Black, Secretlab TITAN Evo (Black SoftWeave Plus Fabric), 2*CyberPower BR1200ELCD-UK BRICs Series, Samsung 40" ES6800 Series 6 SMART 3D FHD LED TV, UGREEN USB 3.2 Gen 2 10Gbps M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, SABRENT 3.5" SATA drive docking station

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