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[zdoghu]

My current set up is:

CPU Ryzen 5 2400G

Motherboard AsRock A-320M

Ram 1 x 16 Gb Kingston 2400mhz

Storage 1tb WD Blue, 500GB WD Blue, 500GB WD Blue

GPU XFX 580 XXX Edition

PSU Corsair 650 Gold 80Watt Plus

My potential upgrade I was think is: 

CPU Ryzen 5 4500

Motherboard Asus Prime B-450M-A II

Ram 4 x 8 GB G Skill Ripjaw or Corsair Vengence 3200 MHz (Chrome eats my ram usage like how I eat at a Chinese buffet) 

Storage Crucial P3 Plus 500gb M.2 NVME DRam less plus the 3 WD Blues from before

GPU MSI GeForce LP OC 3050 6GB or Gigabyte Eagle Radeon RX6600

PSU The Corsair 650 Gold 80+ from before

 

I don’t have a hard budget but Im spending roughly 500 US to upgrade my PC to play AAA games instead of upgrading from a ps4 to a ps5 or Xbox X. Yes I do still have a ps4.  By AAA games, mainly the new CoD, Smite 2, want to try Anno, Minecraft with friends, etc. and would like to be able to watch YouTube or TV on a second monitor while playing bc at the current moment, it’s not possible. 

[KhakiHat]

Is there a certain quality that you want to reach with playing any of those games?

 

Or do you just want them to run/run better than before?

 

Like 1080p low settings, medium settings, high settings?

 

1440p?

[Ophidio]

I would recommend getting a RX 7600XT as a GPU upgrade if you could swing the extra $100 over the 3050. The 3050 is not a great card and the 6GB of VRAM is really going to limit you in the next couple of years even at 1080p. I played the Black Ops 6 beta and with everything set to medium-low at 1080p i was already using close to 6GB of my VRAM in a 3070. The 7600XT will give you 16GB with a lot more raw horsepower over the 3050 to provide you enjoyment for way more years to come. 

 

Out of everything else I would change the ram to 2x16GB sticks at 3200mhz if you can just so you have the opportunity to add 2 more stick if you ever wanted. No big deal though.

 

And the SSD go with a 1TB Crucial p3 (non plus) for $16 more. In gaming you won't really make use of the Gen 4 speeds from the P3 Plus but you can get extra storage for our AAA games as most newer games don't like running on mechanical HDD's anymore. 

 

TL;DR -  RTX 3050 -> RX 7600XT,  4 x 8GB -> 2 x 16GB ram sticks, and 500GB Crucial P3 Plus -> 1TB Crucial P3

 

Again these are just my recommendations but I understand money is a big factor so just do whatever you are comfortable with. Never force yourself in a bad situation over material items.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($68.58 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus Prime B450M-A II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($53.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($56.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Radeon RX 7600 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($309.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $559.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-12 00:46 EDT-0400

[leclod]

I'd try with adding just one stick of 16GB Ram (>=2400MHz). It'll still run at 2400MHz but in dual channel.

I'd consider a 2TB NVMe M.2 ssd for 95usd

Why do you want to change the mobo ? just keep the AsRock A-320M and update the bios

Get a 5600 instead of the 4500 (I didn't see it in the compatibility list but the 5700 is in there, so...).

And as @Ophidio wrote, the RX 7600XT is probably the best choice. But look on the used market too (I recently bought a used 3070 for 250usd)

Edited September 12 by leclod

[Ophidio]

@leclod is right. If you save money by keeping the mother board and just getting another 16GB stick of RAM you could actually get a Ryzen 7 5700X and get a huge CPU upgrade for yourself and still be at the $560 price point in the list I sent. 

[zdoghu]

9 hours ago, KhakiHat said:

Is there a certain quality that you want to reach with playing any of those games?

 

Or do you just want them to run/run better than before?

 

Like 1080p low settings, medium settings, high settings?

 

1440p?

I want to say 1080 would be good for me. In multiplayer games, probably medium then in single players games, I could bump it up to high. On my current set up, I played MW19 and couldn’t play warzone at all (hit about 40 fps on low settings) then in multiplayer, I would hit 60 consistently as long as I closed everything in the background. If I wanted to also watch YouTube on a second monitor, multiplayer was unplayable. Just having the second monitor on, it would drop 10-20 frames. I want to play let’s say the new CoD and watch YouTube or have discord open at the same time is a goal. 
 

[zdoghu]

9 hours ago, Ophidio said:

I would recommend getting a RX 7600XT as a GPU upgrade if you could swing the extra $100 over the 3050. The 3050 is not a great card and the 6GB of VRAM is really going to limit you in the next couple of years even at 1080p. I played the Black Ops 6 beta and with everything set to medium-low at 1080p i was already using close to 6GB of my VRAM in a 3070. The 7600XT will give you 16GB with a lot more raw horsepower over the 3050 to provide you enjoyment for way more years to come. 

 

Out of everything else I would change the ram to 2x16GB sticks at 3200mhz if you can just so you have the opportunity to add 2 more stick if you ever wanted. No big deal though.

 

And the SSD go with a 1TB Crucial p3 (non plus) for $16 more. In gaming you won't really make use of the Gen 4 speeds from the P3 Plus but you can get extra storage for our AAA games as most newer games don't like running on mechanical HDD's anymore. 

 

TL;DR -  RTX 3050 -> RX 7600XT,  4 x 8GB -> 2 x 16GB ram sticks, and 500GB Crucial P3 Plus -> 1TB Crucial P3

 

Again these are just my recommendations but I understand money is a big factor so just do whatever you are comfortable with. Never force yourself in a bad situation over material items.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($68.58 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus Prime B450M-A II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($53.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($56.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Radeon RX 7600 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($309.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $559.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-12 00:46 EDT-0400

Is there that much little difference inbetween pcie gen 3 and gen 4 for basic gaming builds that gen 3 is what I should look at? The ram I understand, when making the list I originally just had 2 x 8 that’s barely enough anymore. I say I do have a problem with not closing tabs bc I think I need them that I have crashed chromed bc I’ve used 100% of my ram on chrome and windows lol. 
 

Was the cpu choice a good one or if my current cpu fine? I was going to buy part then put it in, buy part, put it in as I can and the gpu might be the first upgrade it seems and didn’t know if with just the gpu upgrade (then everything else) that I could start to play games on it like COD. 
 

Thank you for your great advice! I would much rather throw a little more money at a better gpu then only lightly upgrade and still can barely play games with my friends. 

[Ophidio]

2 minutes ago, zdoghu said:

Is there that much little difference inbetween pcie gen 3 and gen 4 for basic gaming builds that gen 3 is what I should look at? The ram I understand, when making the list I originally just had 2 x 8 that’s barely enough anymore. I say I do have a problem with not closing tabs bc I think I need them that I have crashed chromed bc I’ve used 100% of my ram on chrome and windows lol. 
 

Was the cpu choice a good one or if my current cpu fine? I was going to buy part then put it in, buy part, put it in as I can and the gpu might be the first upgrade it seems and didn’t know if with just the gpu upgrade (then everything else) that I could start to play games on it like COD. 
 

Thank you for your great advice! I would much rather throw a little more money at a better gpu then only lightly upgrade and still can barely play games with my friends. 

In gaming you won’t notice a difference at all between gen 3 and gen 4 pcie so if you can the extra storage from gen 3 I would do that.
 

The 2400g is still a good chip I have a buddy still using a Ryzen 5 1600x and he can run everything fine after pairing it with a newer gpu. Your gpu is what is really holding you back in COD these days so that would be the most viable upgrade you could do without having to do everything else immediately. 
 

Get yourself some more RAM if Chrome is giving that many issues. I have 32GB in my system and I’ve never had an issue but I also maybe only have 20 tabs open at once and that’s rarely. Usually it’s about 8-10.

[zdoghu]

9 hours ago, leclod said:

I'd try with adding just one stick of 16GB Ram (>=2400MHz). It'll still run at 2400MHz but in dual channel.

I'd consider a 2TB NVMe M.2 ssd for 95usd

Why do you want to change the mobo ? just keep the AsRock A-320M and update the bios

Get a 5600 instead of the 4500 (I didn't see it in the compatibility list but the 5700 is in there, so...).

And as @Ophidio wrote, the RX 7600XT is probably the best choice. But look on the used market too (I recently bought a used 3070 for 250usd)

Dual channel would definitely help my performance but would the difference between 2400 and 3200 be noticable? My motherboard doesn’t have a m.2 or nvme slot at all so that’s the main reason in upgrading the mobo. And it is only a single 16x slot if I remember correctly so I can’t put a m.2 nvme expansion card on it. What is the benefit with going with the 5600 over the 4500? I’m not knowledge on comparing cpus, but from the info on them the 4500 has .1 GHz more performance core base clock but .3GHz less performance core clock boost over the 5600 which seems pretty similar in speeds. 

[leclod]

3 hours ago, zdoghu said:

Dual channel would definitely help my performance but would the difference between 2400 and 3200 be noticable? My motherboard doesn’t have a m.2 or nvme slot at all so that’s the main reason in upgrading the mobo. And it is only a single 16x slot if I remember correctly so I can’t put a m.2 nvme expansion card on it. What is the benefit with going with the 5600 over the 4500? I’m not knowledge on comparing cpus, but from the info on them the 4500 has .1 GHz more performance core base clock but .3GHz less performance core clock boost over the 5600 which seems pretty similar in speeds. 

You wrote "Ram 1 x 16 Gb Kingston 2400mhz" so I assumed you currently had one stick of 16GB Ram and could simply add another stick of 16GB. Which would be cheap and good.

2400 and 3200 be noticable? I don't know, I guess hardly.

It depends on your situation and I don't understand it anymore because your information seems unaccurate.

I checked your mobo and I saw an M.2 NVMe slot.

The 5600 is newer, faster, more efficient and still cheap : https://youtu.be/psiFwfhz2rs

 

Edited September 12 by leclod