PC for 1440P Ultrawide Gaming + 3D modeling.

[EpiphanyNinja]

Budget (including currency):  3000 CAD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AAA 1440p ultrawide gaming with Ray tracing, high / ultra settings. Would like to hit at least 60 FPS in demanding titles but upwards of 144 when possible. I have a Dell DWF OLED ultrawide. I'm also going to use it for 3D modeling in zbrush, Maya and unreal engine. Zbrush and Arnold renderer in Maya are CPU and RAM reliant, not so much GPU.

Other details:

 

Here's the parts list I have put together so far.

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QKp7fy

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($588.96 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Black 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($55.90 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($269.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($1499.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case  ($198.99 @ PC-Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($223.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $3087.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-11 10:49 EDT-0400

 

[Hinjima]

2 minutes ago, EpiphanyNinja said:

Budget (including currency):  3000 CAD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AAA 1440p ultrawide gaming with Ray tracing, high / ultra settings. Would like to hit at least 60 FPS in demanding titles but upwards of 144 when possible. I have a Dell DWF OLED ultrawide. I'm also going to use it for 3D modeling in zbrush, Maya and unreal engine. Zbrush and Arnold renderer in Maya are CPU reliant.

Other details:

 

Here's the parts list I have put together so far.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QKp7fy

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($588.96 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Black 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($55.90 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($269.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($1499.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case  ($198.99 @ PC-Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($223.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $3087.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-11 10:49 EDT-0400

 

Very good list!   The PSU is overkill and I would suggest something like this.

I use a 750w with my own 7700x and overclocked RTX 4080 without issues.

Only reason I am suggesting this is to get closer to your set budget.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/CXX46D

[Agall]

1 minute ago, EpiphanyNinja said:

Budget (including currency):  3000 CAD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AAA 1440p ultrawide gaming with Ray tracing, high / ultra settings. Would like to hit at least 60 FPS in demanding titles but upwards of 144 when possible. I have a Dell DWF OLED ultrawide. I'm also going to use it for 3D modeling in zbrush, Maya and unreal engine. Zbrush and Arnold renderer in Maya are CPU reliant.

Other details:

 

Here's the parts list I have put together so far.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QKp7fy

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($588.96 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Black 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($55.90 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($269.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($1499.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case  ($198.99 @ PC-Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($223.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $3087.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-11 10:49 EDT-0400

 

Looks good to me.

 

Motherboard shouldn't conflict with the Gaming OC's included anti-sag bracket, but its not worth buying around that specifically since it would require the X670e Aorus Master or such to be properly 'supported'. Even then, modification might be required (totally worth it). 

[EpiphanyNinja]

Just now, Hinjima said:

Very good list!   The PSU is overkill and I would suggest something like this.

I use a 750w with my own 7700x and overclocked RTX 4080 without issues.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/CXX46D

Yeah I was thinking maybe it was. I was looking at the 850 seasonic, but I was reading that sometimes it's better to have a bit more headroom for power spikes? The difference in price was about 40 bucks between the 1,000w and the 850.

[EpiphanyNinja]

Just now, Agall said:

Looks good to me.

 

Motherboard shouldn't conflict with the Gaming OC's included anti-sag bracket, but its not worth buying around that specifically since it would require the X670e Aorus Master or such to be properly 'supported'. Even then, modification might be required (totally worth it). 

I was kind of confused by the bracket. I'm not really sure if it will work in that case and motherboard or not? It seems like something I would have to try when I do the build... Otherwise I was thinking I could just get one of those standard GPU pins that hold it up?

[Hinjima]

Just now, EpiphanyNinja said:

Yeah I was thinking maybe it was. I was looking at the 850 seasonic, but I was reading that sometimes it's better to have a bit more headroom for power spikes? The difference in price was about 40 bucks between the 1,000w and the 850.

Well,. How about this one?

The Be Quiet PSU comes with 10 year warranty as well.  I am buying a new PSU soon and it will be this exact one but 1200w.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/WBfXTY

[Agall]

3 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Very good list!   The PSU is overkill and I would suggest something like this.

I use a 750w with my own 7700x and overclocked RTX 4080 without issues.

Only reason I am suggesting this is to get closer to your set budget.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/CXX46D

Its like $25 less for the 850W, at that price, the 1000W just hits a nice sweet spot at ~$200 (newegg pricing). Might be different in Canada though.

[EpiphanyNinja]

Just now, Hinjima said:

Well,. How about this one?

The Be Quiet PSU comes with 10 year warranty as well.  I am buying a new PSU soon and it will be this exact one but 1200w.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/WBfXTY

I read that mutli rail psu have some risks with the 4080 because of power spikes? I was also looking at that be quiet but shied away because of that.

[Agall]

2 minutes ago, EpiphanyNinja said:

Yeah I was thinking maybe it was. I was looking at the 850 seasonic, but I was reading that sometimes it's better to have a bit more headroom for power spikes? The difference in price was about 40 bucks between the 1,000w and the 850.

RTX 4000 series has probably the most stable power draw than any other generation. That was mostly an RTX 3000 or RX 6000 high end SKU problem.

[Hinjima]

Just now, EpiphanyNinja said:

I read that mutli rail psu have some risks with the 4080 because of power spikes? I was also looking at that be quiet but shied away because of that.

RTX 4000 doesn't spike like the higher end RTX 3000 did.

The RTX 4000 is incredibly stable as @Agall writes.

 

is is not something I would even take into consideration.

My 4080 never spike.

[Agall]

1 minute ago, Hinjima said:

RTX 4000 doesn't spike like the higher end RTX 3000 did.

The RTX 4000 is incredibly stable as @Agall writes.

 

is is not something I would even take into consideration.

My 4080 never spike.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Super Founders Edition 16GB vs. MSI GeForce RTX 4080 Super Expert 16 GB Review - Super-homeopathic differences on all fronts, but cheaper | Page 15 | igor ́sLAB (igorslab.de)

 

Up to ~480W draw at <1ms. Usually who I reference for this data, most importantly for RTX 3000 or RX 6000 series cards and their 200% TDP spikes.

 

850W would work, but as OP points out, its like $40 to just go with a 1000W, which I would personally do.

[Hinjima]

Just now, Agall said:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Super Founders Edition 16GB vs. MSI GeForce RTX 4080 Super Expert 16 GB Review - Super-homeopathic differences on all fronts, but cheaper | Page 15 | igor ́sLAB (igorslab.de)

 

Up to ~480W draw at <1ms. Usually who I reference for this data, most importantly for RTX 3000 or RX 6000 series cards and their 200% TDP spikes.

 

850W would work, but as OP points out, its like $40 to just go with a 1000W, which I would personally do.

Sure.  I would go with the be quiet! pure power 12 M 1000w then.

 

I use a Corsair RM750i  ( 750w ) with my own RTX 4080 and its been 100% stable, my 4080 is overclocked from 2750 to 3050Mhz on the core and + 1700mhz on the memory.

Been running fine since November 2022.

[Agall]

6 minutes ago, EpiphanyNinja said:

I was kind of confused by the bracket. I'm not really sure if it will work in that case and motherboard or not? It seems like something I would have to try when I do the build... Otherwise I was thinking I could just get one of those standard GPU pins that hold it up?

My 4090 is a Gaming OC and the included bracket is absolutely the best on the market, though specially designed for the card. It uses the lower two standoffs to make an L bracket which then bolts into the card. As long as there's nothing protruding excessively from that section, then it'll work.

 

I used it on the X670e Aorus Master and then even had to modify it to not interfere with the front panel header or the front fan mount. I dremeled the button round and bent the other end to not poke a fan. Totally worth it if it doesnt conflict with the motherboard excessively. Entirely eliminates the issue of sagging.

[Agall]

1 minute ago, Hinjima said:

Sure.  I would go with the be quiet! pure power 12 M 1000w then.

 

I use a Corsair RM750i  ( 750w ) with my own RTX 4080 and its been 100% stable, my 4080 is overclocked from 2750 to 3050Mhz on the core and + 1700mhz on the memory.

Been running fine since November 2022.

Sure, though the recommended PSU for the 4080S gaming OC is 850W. I always always at least recommend following that guideline, even if your CPU only usually sips 45W and isn't a 14900k at 250W. You don't want to run into the issue where you have to RMA the card for an inexplicable reason, and you forget to lie about your PSU's capacity.

 

The cost up to 1000W is so trivial in comparison, and it affords the ~10% loss over ~5 years you'd expect with a PSU.

 

I only use an RM1000x for my setup because I already had it on hand, otherwise I could comfortably run an 850W. 600W from the GPU (normally about 500W) and up to 100W from the handheld (normally about 40W).

[Hinjima]

1 minute ago, Agall said:

Sure, though the recommended PSU for the 4080S gaming OC is 850W. I always always at least recommend following that guideline, even if your CPU only usually sips 45W and isn't a 14900k at 250W. You don't want to run into the issue where you have to RMA the card for an inexplicable reason, and you forget to lie about your PSU's capacity.

 

The cost up to 1000W is so trivial in comparison, and it affords the ~10% loss over ~5 years you'd expect with a PSU.

 

I only use an RM1000x for my setup because I already had it on hand, otherwise I could comfortably run an 850W. 600W from the GPU (normally about 500W) and up to 100W from the handheld (normally about 40W).

Sure.  I only use the 750w because I already had it on hand like you did.

I am just saying that its been working fine without any problems, if I had a 14900k I would not use it.

If I had to buy a new PSU I would have gone 850w or 1000w.

 

Hence why I am buying the Be Quiet! pure power 12 M 1200w when I get my new Antec Flux Pro case ( Have you seen this one?, Holy shit it looks good )

I am planning on buying a 5090 so I think 1200w is a safe bet

[EpiphanyNinja]

10 minutes ago, Agall said:

My 4090 is a Gaming OC and the included bracket is absolutely the best on the market, though specially designed for the card. It uses the lower two standoffs to make an L bracket which then bolts into the card. As long as there's nothing protruding excessively from that section, then it'll work.

 

I used it on the X670e Aorus Master and then even had to modify it to not interfere with the front panel header or the front fan mount. I dremeled the button round and bent the other end to not poke a fan. Totally worth it if it doesnt conflict with the motherboard excessively. Entirely eliminates the issue of sagging.

I definitely don't feel comfortable doing any kind of modifications. I don't have the tools or the experience. Is there any way to know if the bracket will work with my motherboard and case combination? If it doesn't fit what would be my alternative?

[Agall]

12 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

I am planning on buying a 5090 so I think 1200w is a safe bet

Don't hold your breath for that one  

 

I've seen the rumors that the 5080 will have comparable power draw to the 4090, so the 5090 potentially being a 600W card are possible. I just don't think Nvidia will do that given their love for 12VHPWR but their hatred of having two 12VHPWR. Unless there's another connector already out that can go >600W.

 

TBH, I find myself not caring about 5000 series, mostly because I've already assumed the binning scheme and pricing will be just as bad as RTX 4000 series. I think they'll at least use the GB202 largest die for the 5090, but it might be even more cut down than the RTX 4090 and at a higher price. There's really no reason for Nvidia not to do it, given they can make like 10x the profit selling those GPUs to datacenters instead of gamers.

[OddOod]

38 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

The PSU is overkill

Overkill maybe, but solid buffering for future GPUs. And Seasonic models have a reputation for lasting a good long time

[Agall]

13 minutes ago, EpiphanyNinja said:

I definitely don't feel comfortable doing any kind of modifications. I don't have the tools or the experience. Is there any way to know if the bracket will work with my motherboard and case combination? If it doesn't fit what would be my alternative?

The only questionable part I saw was the CR2032 is mounted there, but I think the standoffs are taller than that. I don't have the bracket on hand to tell you for certain though, but if I remember in about 7 hours, I can check it.

 

The bracket uses standoffs in place of motherboard screws to lift the bracket away from the motherboard, then has a set of screws that bolt the bracket into those standoffs. Overall, the thing is simple enough to be easily modifiable, but mostly on the other end. It is more likely to work with that B650 Gigabyte board than most, just by glancing at it. If the USB3 header wasn't right angled, that would immediately disqualify it.

 

Old picture of my old rig that used it, the X670e Aorus Master board I mentioned. Notice the bottom is rounded instead of a chamfer and the end is bent past where the card clearly bolts into it by the scuffed paint.

 

[Agall]

2 minutes ago, OddOod said:

Overkill maybe, but solid buffering for future GPUs. And Seasonic models have a reputation for lasting a good long time

@Hinjima Its definitely a good question to bring up but is usually dependent on pricing on whether its worth it. In this case, downgrading to 850W for like $40 probably isn't worth it for this expensive of a rig.

[Agall]

46 minutes ago, EpiphanyNinja said:

Budget (including currency):  3000 CAD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AAA 1440p ultrawide gaming with Ray tracing, high / ultra settings. Would like to hit at least 60 FPS in demanding titles but upwards of 144 when possible. I have a Dell DWF OLED ultrawide. I'm also going to use it for 3D modeling in zbrush, Maya and unreal engine. Zbrush and Arnold renderer in Maya are CPU and RAM reliant, not so much GPU.

Other details:

 

Here's the parts list I have put together so far.

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QKp7fy

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($588.96 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Black 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($55.90 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($269.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($1499.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case  ($198.99 @ PC-Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($223.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $3087.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-11 10:49 EDT-0400

 

One thing I thought I'd mention, unless you have two 120mm or 140mm fans laying around, I'd pick up a set. That being for rear/top exhaust. The included 140mm fans with the FD North are AMAZING, so no need to replace them, just adding exhaust will be extremely beneficial. 

[EpiphanyNinja]

16 minutes ago, Agall said:

One thing I thought I'd mention, unless you have two 120mm or 140mm fans laying around, I'd pick up a set. That being for rear/top exhaust. The included 140mm fans with the FD North are AMAZING, so no need to replace them, just adding exhaust will be extremely beneficial. 

Good looking out! I have a few silent Wings 3 140 mm I'll harvest from my old case. That plus the ones included with fractal should be good?

[EpiphanyNinja]

25 minutes ago, Agall said:

@Hinjima Its definitely a good question to bring up but is usually dependent on pricing on whether its worth it. In this case, downgrading to 850W for like $40 probably isn't worth it for this expensive of a rig.

In Canada, I can grab the sea Sonic gx850 for 160 or the gx1000 for 190. For $30 the 1,000 seems like a no-brainer.

[Agall]

5 minutes ago, EpiphanyNinja said:

Good looking out! I have a few silent Wings 3 140 mm I'll harvest from my old case. That plus the ones included with fractal should be good?

Yeah, ironically I would've recommended those if you were buying fans. I used a set of 140mm FD case fans for my setup salvaged from a FD Torrent.

 

If you have 4 of those silent wings, I'd just keep them common to prevent any variability in report. I find that to be impactful to keeping a consistent sound report from a computer, having the fans common if you can, but that's not worth spending extra $$ just to get.

[Agall]

1 minute ago, EpiphanyNinja said:

In Canada, I can grab the sea Sonic gx850 for 160 or the gx1000 for 190. For $30 the 1,000 seems like a no-brainer.

850W might be fine for 5 years, but the expectation is about a 10% reduction in maximum output after 5 years. That would take an 850W down to 765W, which is likely still fine, but closer than I would like. 1000W down to 900W, which still keeps the system at that 50-65% draw for peak efficiency.