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I found someone selling a these drives on FB Marketplace for $20 a piece. Is that a good deal? But I am not sure how much storage they have the FB listing says 4TB but his store listing says both 4TB and 128MB which is the storage amount?

 

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4tb is the actual storage, 128mb is the cache

 

when buying used hdd's you need to look at more than if its just working or not, so be careful you don't buy a bad one

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16 minutes ago, GalaxyStudios said:

Is that a good deal?

SAS alert! These aren't SATA drives.

Unless you have server-grade HBAs and cables available, these are absolutely not usable in consumer desktop PCs.

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                           ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ────── UniFi Security Gateway ─── UniFi Switch 8-60W ─┬─ UniFi Flex XG ═╦═ Veda (Intel X550.1)
(500Mbps↑/500Mbps↓)                             UniFi CloudKey Gen2 (PoE) ─┴─ Veda (IPMI)    ╠═ Veda-NAS (Intel X550.2)
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3 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

SAS alert! These aren't SATA drives.

Unless you have server-grade HBAs and cables available, these are absolutely not usable in consumer desktop PCs.

Omg! Thank you for pointing this out. I did not realize there was a difference.

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I've had REALLY good experiences with Server Part Deals. I've bought north of 20 drives from them (mostly in the 14TB range) and have had no problems in the past 2 years. I would recommend looking more in the 12TB range in the Manufacturer Recertified Drives page as they are only 50% more money for 200% more storage
https://serverpartdeals.com/collections/manufacturer-recertified-drives/products/seagate-ironwolf-pro-st4000ne001-4tb-7-2k-rpm-sata-6gb-s-512e-nas-3-5-recertified-hard-drive

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16 hours ago, AbydosOne said:

SAS alert! These aren't SATA drives.

Unless you have server-grade HBAs and cables available, these are absolutely not usable in consumer desktop PCs.

What's the difference? The connector to the pc?

Console.WriteLine("Hello World!");

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6 hours ago, Blasty Blosty said:

What's the difference? The connector to the pc?

Connector is one thing ( it is still difrent ), the protocol is different ( it’s not AHCI it’s iSCSI) and there’s no going around it other then dedicated HBA cards, or usb adapters that cost like 140$ ( couple years ago they costed 1000$ )

   
 
 
 
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17 minutes ago, kokosnh said:

Connector is one thing ( it is still difrent )

Correct.

 

17 minutes ago, kokosnh said:

the protocol is different

Correct-ish. SATA is a subset of the SAS, allowing for SATA drives to work with SAS controllers.

 

17 minutes ago, kokosnh said:

( it’s not AHCI it’s iSCSI)

Oof, no.

 

SATA's electrical protocol is SATA; link layer is ATA/ATAPI. SAS's electrical protocol is SAS, link layer is SCSI.

 

AHCI is a different layer to SATA, on the controller-to-host side communications/memory management.

 

iSCSI is something entirely different; iSCSI is connecting to arbitrary block devices presented using SCSI protocol over networked infrastructure.

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Laptop (Narrative): Lenovo Flex 5 81X20005US | Ryzen 5 4500U | 16GB RAM (soldered) | Vega 6 Graphics | SKHynix P31 1TB NVMe SSD | Intel AX200 Wifi (all-around awesome machine)

 

Proxmox Server (Veda): Ryzen 7 3800XT | AsRock Rack X470D4U | Corsair H80i v2 | 64GB Micron DDR4 ECC 3200MT/s | 4× WD 10TB / 4× Seagate 14TB Exos / 8× WD 12TB (custom external SAS enclosure) / 2× Samsung PM963a 960GB SSD | Seasonic Prime Fanless 500W | Intel X550-T2 10G NIC | LSI 9300-8i HBA | Adaptec 82885T SAS Expander | Fractal Design Node 804 Case (side panels swapped to show off drives) | VMs: TrueNAS Scale; Ubuntu Server (PiHole/PiVPN/NGINX?); Windows 10 Pro; Ubuntu Server (Apache/MySQL)

 

Proxmox Server (La Vie en Rose): GMKtec Mini PC | Ryzen 7 5700U | 32GB RAM (SO-DIMM) | Vega 8 Graphics | Lexar 1TB 610 Pro SSD | Dual Realtek 8125 2.5G NICs | VMs: Ubuntu Server (PiHole)


Media Center/Video Capture (Jesta Cannon): Ryzen 5 1600X | ASRock B450M Pro4 R2.0 | Noctua NH-L12S | 16GB Crucial DDR4 3200MT/s CAS-22 | EVGA GTX750Ti SC | UMIS NVMe SSD 256GB / TEAMGROUP MS30 1TB | Corsair CX450M | Viewcast Osprey 260e Video Capture | Mellanox ConnectX-2 10G NIC | LG UH12NS30 BD-ROM | Silverstone Sugo SG-11 Case | Sony XR65A80K

 

Camera: Sony ɑ7II w/ Meike Grip | Sony SEL24240 | Samyang 35mm ƒ/2.8 | Sony SEL50F18F | Sony SEL2870 (kit lens) | PNY Elite Perfomance 512GB SDXC card

 

Network:

Spoiler 
                           ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ────── UniFi Security Gateway ─── UniFi Switch 8-60W ─┬─ UniFi Flex XG ═╦═ Veda (Intel X550.1)
(500Mbps↑/500Mbps↓)                             UniFi CloudKey Gen2 (PoE) ─┴─ Veda (IPMI)    ╠═ Veda-NAS (Intel X550.2)
╔════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Narrative (Asus USB 2½G NIC)
║ ┌── Closet ───┐    ┌─────────────── Bedroom ─────────────────────────────────────────────┐
╚═ UniFi Flex XG ═╦╤═ UniFi Flex XG ═╦═ Byarlant
   (PoE)          ║│                 ╠═ Narrative (Cable Matters 2½G NIC w/ USB-PD)
   Kitchen Jack ══╝│                 ╚═ Jesta Cannon*
   (Testing)       │        ┌──────── Media Center ────────────────────────────────────────┐
                   └──────── UniFi Switch 8 ─────────┬─ UniFi Access Point nanoHD (PoE)
Notes:                                               ├─ Sony Playstation 4 
─── is Gigabit / ═══ is Multi-Gigabit                ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
* = cable passed to Bedroom from Media Center        ├─ Sony XR65A80K (Google TV)
** = cable passed from Media Center to Bedroom       └─ Work Laptop** (Startech USB-PD Dock)

 

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