Which type of charger will able to charge my Samsung galaxy note 10 5g+ within one hour or less?

[JeanPMikhael]

2A charger

2.5A charger

20W charger

25W charger

30W charger

35W charger

40W charger or above (max 45W charger)?

I buyed this 2a charger last night not sure if it's gonna charge for 1 and half hour like mobile phone dealer told me or he is lying it will take 2 hours to charge?

Thanks 

[Poinkachu]

21 minutes ago, JeanPMikhael said:

2A charger

2.5A charger

20W charger

25W charger

30W charger

35W charger

40W charger or above (max 45W charger)?

I buyed this 2a charger last night not sure if it's gonna charge for 1 and half hour like mobile phone dealer told me or he is lying it will take 2 hours to charge?

Thanks

To charge your phone with it's full charging capability , a charger with PD3.0 that can output atleast 45w

Whether you can charge the phone in an hour or less using it, idk. Never used the phone.

 

21 minutes ago, JeanPMikhael said:

I buyed this 2a charger last night not sure if it's gonna charge for 1 and half hour like mobile phone dealer told me or he is lying it will take 2 hours to charge?

Thanks 

To give you a comparison :

s24 (4000mAh battery) takes like about 1hr ish from 20-30% battery to full, using a PD3.0 25w charger.

Your phone's battery is 4300mAh

 

That charger you bought is only 10w max, and a non PD charger.

 

PD charger spec usually looks like this :

[anirudthelinuxwIzard]

I'll be frank with you; using sketchy Chinese power supplies is a surefire way to make your phone a bomb.

Putting that aside, Ampere is a measure of current, and watt is a measure of energy (in the case of electricals, I * V = W). The Note 10 supports 45W charging VIA USB PD (presumably it needs Samsung's stupid PPS too). There is no way this supports that, as USB PD requires the powersupply to have a USB-C plug, plus they even state it only supports 10 watts.

[mariushm]

It has a 4.2v 4300mAh battery.  In theory, the battery will charge up in one hour, if you charge it at 4300mA . In practice, a battery is charged up to maybe 80-85% at the maximum current rate, then it's charged at a lower current rate up to maybe 95% then the rest is much lower current charge. 

 

But assuming it charges at 4.2v x 4300 mA = 18,060 mW  ... assuming 95% conversion efficiency, that's 19010 mW or 19w ... so I think pretty much anything above 20w should be able to charge the battery quite fast. Not sure if it will be within 1 1/2h, but fast enough. 

 

In real world, your battery will last much longer if you charge it slower. My Xiaomi redmi 8 pro with a 4500mAh battery charges in less than 1h with the 18w charger it came with. 

 

Batteries are usually rated for something like 900-1000 charges if charged at more than 1/2C (ex more than 10-15w-ish in your case), and the rating is degraded to something like 700-800 charges if charged at 1C or more (20w-ish or more in your case)

 

Just now, anirudthelinuxwIzard said:

I'll be frank with you; using sketchy Chinese power supplies is a surefire way to make your phone a bomb.
 

I agree... get a genuine charger from a brand name .. samsung, xiaomi, anker, ugreen ... even if they're rated for lower maximum power. 

Don't damage your phone by cheapening on charger. 

You generally can use chargers from other brands, it's usb-c, it's standard... 

[seon123]

The fastest charging speed requires a charger that supports USB PD PPS at ~9V 5A (real voltage/current seems to be about 9.3V/4.8A, and Samsung's own 45W charger claims to only support 11V/4.05A, so ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯). You can't just get any random 45W USB PD PDO charger and expect it to work at the max speed, as these will often only support 45W at 15V/3A or 20V/2.25A. 

 

Unfortunately, a lot of chargers don't state that they support that current at 9V under PPS (9V at above 3A is not supported by PDO, so chargers will typically state 9V/3A), so you kind of have to look for chargers that specify that they support 45W charging for Samsung phones and trust that they actually do. Samsung's 45W and 65W chargers will work, as will some third party chargers. 

 

You also need a cable that supports 5A current, most of those are marketed as "100W" or above, as these are the only ones with an e-marker chip required for currents above 3A. A cable sold as "60W" will not work. 

 

Example combination that should work at 45W: 

https://www.anker.com/uk/products/a2669-3-port-wall-charger

https://www.anker.com/uk/products/a8552

Anker states that their GANPrime series should support 45W on Samsung: 

https://support.anker.com/s/article/Why-does-my-Samsung-phone-not-appear-Super-fast-charging-2-0

 

 

That charger you got is absolute garbage, 5V 2A is the kind of stuff you got with tablets about 12 years ago. A very slow charger. 

 

 

1 hour ago, anirudthelinuxwIzard said:

presumably it needs Samsung's stupid PPS too

PPS is a part of USB PD, not some Samsung thing. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Poinkachu said:

To charge your phone with it's full charging capability , a charger with PD3.0 that can output atleast 45w

45W and USB PD 3.0 is not enough. See above. 

Here's some testing with an S24U. Different phone, but also 45W Samsung. Several 65W chargers charged at 25W. 1:33 for Samsung chargers, 6:40 for third party chargers. 

 

 

[JeanPMikhael]

I think 25W is good enough to charge from 0% to 110% if this information not wrong

[anirudthelinuxwIzard]

4 minutes ago, JeanPMikhael said:

I think 25W is good enough to charge from 0% to 110% if this information not wrong

You can't use a amazon listing as a source of information lmao.

[JeanPMikhael]

[anirudthelinuxwIzard]

This is for the S22,as the top comment states it doesn't support 45W charging.

1 minute ago, JeanPMikhael said:

 

[mariushm]

15 minutes ago, JeanPMikhael said:

I think 25W is good enough to charge from 0% to 110% if this information not wrong

 

As I said, you can't that kind of math you do on paper ... charging is not done at a steady rate.  it's sort of like in the picture at the bottom of this post. 

 

The text in your picture says 30 minutes from 55% to 100% 

 

That can mean like in the picture below that the charger will give let's say 15 watts (5 v x 3A or 9v x 1.6A) continuously from 55% to maybe 90%. Once you hit that threshold somewhere above 85-90%, the battery simply can't absorb the energy at that rate, even if the charger is capable of supplying it. So it takes quite a bit of time for the battery to go from 85-90% to 100%. 

So in that example of 30 minutes for 55% to 100% , it could be the charger spends 20 minutes reaching 90%, then 10 minutes reaching 100%. 

 

If the battery was at 20%, it's possible the charger would spend only 25 minutes or 30 minutes to reach 90% then spend 10 minutes to reach 100%.... so it would be 40 minutes to charge from 20% to 100%.

 

You can't extrapolate total charge time like you did on paper. 

 

Statements on ads and listings are often designed to make products look better, or to confuse people. 

 

You need to get a charger with USB PD or Quick Charge, a standard that the phone supports, and you need to get a charger that supports multiple voltages. 

The phone will talk to the charger and tell it to give it the highest voltage it can support and which the usb cable supports. 

 

The phone could take in 5v x 3A = 15 watts, but it could also ask the charger to give it 12v  at 1.5A = 18 watts  or even 20v at 1A = 20 watts. 

 

Don't look independently at current, or voltage, look at the both combined, or look at the wattage. 

 

 

 

 

15 minutes ago, JeanPMikhael said:

 

 

[JeanPMikhael]

29 minutes ago, mariushm said:

 

As I said, you can't that kind of math you do on paper ... charging is not done at a steady rate.  it's sort of like in the picture at the bottom of this post. 

 

The text in your picture says 30 minutes from 55% to 100% 

 

That can mean like in the picture below that the charger will give let's say 15 watts (5 v x 3A or 9v x 1.6A) continuously from 55% to maybe 90%. Once you hit that threshold somewhere above 85-90%, the battery simply can't absorb the energy at that rate, even if the charger is capable of supplying it. So it takes quite a bit of time for the battery to go from 85-90% to 100%. 

So in that example of 30 minutes for 55% to 100% , it could be the charger spends 20 minutes reaching 90%, then 10 minutes reaching 100%. 

 

If the battery was at 20%, it's possible the charger would spend only 25 minutes or 30 minutes to reach 90% then spend 10 minutes to reach 100%.... so it would be 40 minutes to charge from 20% to 100%.

 

You can't extrapolate total charge time like you did on paper. 

 

Statements on ads and listings are often designed to make products look better, or to confuse people. 

 

You need to get a charger with USB PD or Quick Charge, a standard that the phone supports, and you need to get a charger that supports multiple voltages. 

The phone will talk to the charger and tell it to give it the highest voltage it can support and which the usb cable supports. 

 

The phone could take in 5v x 3A = 15 watts, but it could also ask the charger to give it 12v  at 1.5A = 18 watts  or even 20v at 1A = 20 watts. 

 

Don't look independently at current, or voltage, look at the both combined, or look at the wattage. 

 

 

 

 

 

Ohh

[JeanPMikhael]

30 minutes ago, mariushm said:

 

As I said, you can't that kind of math you do on paper ... charging is not done at a steady rate.  it's sort of like in the picture at the bottom of this post. 

 

The text in your picture says 30 minutes from 55% to 100% 

 

That can mean like in the picture below that the charger will give let's say 15 watts (5 v x 3A or 9v x 1.6A) continuously from 55% to maybe 90%. Once you hit that threshold somewhere above 85-90%, the battery simply can't absorb the energy at that rate, even if the charger is capable of supplying it. So it takes quite a bit of time for the battery to go from 85-90% to 100%. 

So in that example of 30 minutes for 55% to 100% , it could be the charger spends 20 minutes reaching 90%, then 10 minutes reaching 100%. 

 

If the battery was at 20%, it's possible the charger would spend only 25 minutes or 30 minutes to reach 90% then spend 10 minutes to reach 100%.... so it would be 40 minutes to charge from 20% to 100%.

 

You can't extrapolate total charge time like you did on paper. 

 

Statements on ads and listings are often designed to make products look better, or to confuse people. 

 

You need to get a charger with USB PD or Quick Charge, a standard that the phone supports, and you need to get a charger that supports multiple voltages. 

The phone will talk to the charger and tell it to give it the highest voltage it can support and which the usb cable supports. 

 

The phone could take in 5v x 3A = 15 watts, but it could also ask the charger to give it 12v  at 1.5A = 18 watts  or even 20v at 1A = 20 watts. 

 

Don't look independently at current, or voltage, look at the both combined, or look at the wattage. 

 

 

 

 

 

So 25w is the right choice for 30 - 40 minutes charging?

[JeanPMikhael]

40 minutes ago, anirudthelinuxwIzard said:

This is for the S22,as the top comment states it doesn't support 45W charging.

 

Yes yes he mistaken with video title, he forgotten to check his mobile model name or he want to scam on the viewers

[JeanPMikhael]

3 hours ago, Poinkachu said:

To charge your phone with it's full charging capability , a charger with PD3.0 that can output atleast 45w

Whether you can charge the phone in an hour or less using it, idk. Never used the phone.

 

To give you a comparison :

s24 (4000mAh battery) takes like about 1hr ish from 20-30% battery to full, using a PD3.0 25w charger.

Your phone's battery is 4300mAh

 

That charger you bought is only 10w max, and a non PD charger.

 

PD charger spec usually looks like this :

Ah so 30w is the choice to charge my samsung note 10 5g+ within one hour ?

[saintlouisbagels]

Holy cow what a long thread for a straightforward question.

The Samsung Note 10 5G+ pulls up to 45W from a charger if I did my Googling correctly. If it's anything like iPhone, it'll probably pull a couple W above it.

 

Just get something simple like an Anker 67W USB-C charger for $25

https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Anker-Compact-Foldable-MacBook/dp/B0C33KSJNF/

 

Son of a.. you need to find a charger that supports "Super Fast Charging 2.0" for the 45W charging.

Like this $30 UGREEN charger.

https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Charger-Adapter-Compatible-MacBook/dp/B0B38TWKVR/

 

Keep in mind that charging gets slower as it gets more charged. 0-50% is significantly faster than 50%-75% and 75%-100%

Edited September 11 by saintlouisbagels
changed recommendation

[JeanPMikhael]

On 9/11/2024 at 7:37 PM, saintlouisbagels said:

Holy cow what a long thread for a straightforward question.

The Samsung Note 10 5G+ pulls up to 45W from a charger if I did my Googling correctly. If it's anything like iPhone, it'll probably pull a couple W above it.

 

Just get something simple like an Anker 67W USB-C charger for $25

https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Anker-Compact-Foldable-MacBook/dp/B0C33KSJNF/

 

Son of a.. you need to find a charger that supports "Super Fast Charging 2.0" for the 45W charging.

Like this $30 UGREEN charger.

https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Charger-Adapter-Compatible-MacBook/dp/B0B38TWKVR/

 

Keep in mind that charging gets slower as it gets more charged. 0-50% is significantly faster than 50%-75% and 75%-100%

Actually Someone told me It can charge faster 1 to 2% by locking and unlocking your phone repeatedly I did it it worked