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Intel laptop boost clocks itself till it thermal throttles. HELP!!!

I have a lenovo thinkpad p14s

Specs:

-Intel I7-1165G7

-Nvidia T500

-16x1 GB @ 3200M/T

 

The issue is that I can't undervolt/overclock my CPU since the Bios is locked. The only way to control power is through the power options setting. The problem arises there. When I set the max power state of the CPU to 100%, The CPU works as intended, Boost Clocks till 4GHZ. But this results in very high temps. ( 70+ C on idle/ 100C on load). 

 

Reducing the Maximum power state to even 99% seems to resolve the overheating problem but then the CPU never goes above the base clock, most of the time it hovers below the base clock of 2.8GHZ.

How do I solve this? Is there any way I can have the CPU go above base clock and not thermal throttle itself after 5mins (CS2 running on 400MHZ speed is NOT Smooth)

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If this was always a problem, then I'd suggest getting throttlestop and playing with the PL1 and PL2 power options. They should still work, even if you can't undervolt it. But the processor shouldn't immediately throttle down to 400MHz. It should pull away just enough power that the cooling system can handle the amount of power it produces. So you might be looking at a different problem, something like VRM throttling for example.

 

70C on idle sounds really high, if the CPU isn't doing anything, so if this wasn't always a problem, you could try reapplying thermal paste to the CPU and while you are at it, check how the VRM and the memory are cooled and check if some dusting is in order or if you could thermally connect them to the chassis for example.

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20 minutes ago, adm0n said:

If this was always a problem, then I'd suggest getting throttlestop and playing with the PL1 and PL2 power options. They should still work, even if you can't undervolt it. But the processor shouldn't immediately throttle down to 400MHz. It should pull away just enough power that the cooling system can handle the amount of power it produces. So you might be looking at a different problem, something like VRM throttling for example.

 

70C on idle sounds really high, if the CPU isn't doing anything, so if this wasn't always a problem, you could try reapplying thermal paste to the CPU and while you are at it, check how the VRM and the memory are cooled and check if some dusting is in order or if you could thermally connect them to the chassis for example.

Hi, Thanks for the reply. The thing is I just bought this laptop used. Fortunately, it was still under warranty and the first thing I did was get it re-pasted and serviced. 

 

Yes, 70C on idle is high but u think that's because of the laptop trying to reach max turbo frequency. Is that normal behaviour? (CPU Turboing to max on idle.)

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6 minutes ago, Sidtyagi5 said:

Hi, Thanks for the reply. The thing is I just bought this laptop used. Fortunately, it was still under warranty and the first thing I did was get it re-pasted and serviced. 

 

Yes, 70C on idle is high but u think that's because of the laptop trying to reach max turbo frequency. Is that normal behaviour? (CPU Turboing to max on idle.)

If you set it to do that, then it can certainly do that. I'd personally check the power consumption though. Just boosting high, does consume some power but not nearly as much as actually doing something. So if the power and temperature seem misaligned to you, they may have done a bad job servicing it.

 

Otherwise, you can try the other thing I've mentioned.

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3 minutes ago, adm0n said:

If you set it to do that, then it can certainly do that. I'd personally check the power consumption though. Just boosting high, does consume some power but not nearly as much as actually doing something. So if the power and temperature seem misaligned to you, they may have done a bad job servicing it.

 

Otherwise, you can try the other thing I've mentioned.

I am gonna try throttlestop. But there are so many guildes out there. And i cant seem to find one that directly targerts PL1 and PL2 settings. Could you guilde me on how to do that?

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11 minutes ago, Sidtyagi5 said:

I am gonna try throttlestop. But there are so many guildes out there. And i cant seem to find one that directly targerts PL1 and PL2 settings. Could you guilde me on how to do that?

You click the TPL button if I remember correctly. But just randomly clicking all the buttons until you find it, is also a valid strategy.

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3 minutes ago, adm0n said:

You click the TPL button if I remember correctly. But just randomly clicking all the buttons until you find it, is also a valid strategy.

Bruh XD

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@Sidtyagi5

 

To adjust the CPU speed, open the TPL window and adjust the Speed Shift Max value. This gives you more control over the heat output of a CPU without killing performance as much as disabling Intel Turbo Boost does. 

 

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For laptops with 11th Gen G7 processors, always check the MMIO Lock box near the top right corner of the TPL window. 

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