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High CPU Temp at idle with new Fractal Torrent

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Hi,
These are my specs for my computer:

  • Ryzen 7 7800x3d
  • X670-E Pro Wifi
  • 4x16gb G Skill RAM
  • Nvidia RTX 4080 Super
  • Arctic Liquid Freezer 360mm

 

I recently changed my case from a Lian Li O11 Dynamic to the Fractal Torrent. This is my current Fan Setup:

  • 1x 140mm Exhaust Fan (rear)
  • 2x 180mm Intake Fans (bottom)
  • 3x 120mm Intake Fans (front - AIO)
  • 3x 120mm Intake Fans (front - other side of AIO)

 

Somehow, my CPU is still getting to 65° C at idle...

The temperature was fine in the Lian Li so I am confused as to why the temperature is so how now. Maybe I configured something wrong? The fans are at maximum speed and connected to the HUB in the back of the case.


I was wondering if there is anything I might of done wrong or anything I should change? The AIO is five years old.

 

Might be worth noting, my GPU is at 25° idle.

 

Any help would be appreciated! :)

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Yeah it's too hot, something is not installed correctly, it should be in high 40s at idle

 

How did you plug the LF fans and pump cables ? Can you check the pump and fans speeds ?

Maybe reinstall the CPU block and repaste as well

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plastic peel at the bottom of the block's surface removed?

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current PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

PCs I used before:

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  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
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33 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Yeah it's too hot, something is not installed correctly, it should be in high 40s at idle

 

How did you plug the LF fans and pump cables ? Can you check the pump and fans speeds ?

Maybe reinstall the CPU block and repaste as well

The LF fans are plugged together, if that makes sense. I have the same cabling like the guide:
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The pump cable goes into the back of the Hub, into FAN1 where it's supposed to I think. I can't check all the fan speeds for every fan but I can see it for the AIO
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I just set it as high as possible, I don't know if that affects the temperature

 

I put on paste a year ago. Maybe it's time to put on some new paste, will try that now

 

 

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16 minutes ago, podkall said:

plastic peel at the bottom of the block's surface removed?

Yes, removed it. Maybe I need to clean the block?

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2 minutes ago, trotuele said:

Yes, removed it. Maybe I need to clean the block?

no the peel keeps it clean

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Feel free: To ask any question, no matter what question it is, I will try to answer. I know a lot about PCs but not everything.

current PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

PCs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
  3. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti
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Assuming you're using HWiNFO or Ryzen Master to get your temp reading, AND the CPU is truly at idle (1-3% usage at max), the block isn't properly mounted or if its an AIO, no water flow.

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9 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Assuming you're using HWiNFO or Ryzen Master to get your temp reading, AND the CPU is truly at idle (1-3% usage at max), the block isn't properly mounted or if its an AIO, no water flow.

The Usage is currently at 10% and 55.4° C. Would be over the "idle limit". Still too hot? Might be overreacting then

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10 minutes ago, trotuele said:

The Usage is currently at 10% and 55.4° C. Would be over the "idle limit". Still too hot? Might be overreacting then

There is no reason that your X3D should be that hot at idle.

Things to try:

  • Verify that you feel/hear vibrating from the pump.
  • AIO on the side on exhaust.
  • Turn off the side fans
  • Repaste the CPU

Please report what helps and what doesn't.

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18 minutes ago, trotuele said:

The Usage is currently at 10%

10% is not idle. Ryzen can easily spike up that high under usage like that. 

 

Idle is idle.

Ryzen 7 7800x3D -  Asus RTX4090 TUF OC- Asrock X670E Taichi - 32GB DDR5-6000CL30 - SuperFlower 1000W - Fractal Torrent - Assassin IV - 42" LG C2

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On 9/7/2024 at 2:56 PM, GuiltySpark_ said:

10% is not idle. Ryzen can easily spike up that high under usage like that. 

 

Idle is idle.

Sorry for not responding.
 

So would you say that 10% at 55.4° C is okay? I never seen it go below 49.5°.  When I play games that use a lot of power, it stays at around 65°-70° and occasionally jumps up to 81° when playing games with mods or during a loading screen.

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On 9/7/2024 at 2:51 PM, RevGAM said:

There is no reason that your X3D should be that hot at idle.

Things to try:

  • Verify that you feel/hear vibrating from the pump.
  • AIO on the side on exhaust.
  • Turn off the side fans
  • Repaste the CPU

Please report what helps and what doesn't.

1. I hear vibrating, I sometimes hear the flow but I heard that’s not so good. Could be wrong though

2. It’s on intake, it pulls air in. All my fans are on intake EXCEPT the rear fan which is exhaust. Might be the issue there then

3. Was a little hotter with them off

4. Did that but temperature still the same

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1 hour ago, trotuele said:

1. I hear vibrating, I sometimes hear the flow but I heard that’s not so good. Could be wrong though

2. It’s on intake, it pulls air in. All my fans are on intake EXCEPT the rear fan which is exhaust. Might be the issue there then

3. Was a little hotter with them off

4. Did that but temperature still the same

  1. Hearing the water is because of air in the loop. Which Liquid Freezer version is it? 2? How old is it?
  2. What results do you get if you flip the side fans to exhaust?
  3. When you mount the water block, how do you tighten it down? You should be following the same kind of kitty-corner pattern used for tires.  Can you provide a picture showing how the AIO is situated?

I've been using computers since around 1978, started learning programming in 1980 on Apple IIs, started learning about hardware in 1990, ran a BBS from 1990-95, built my first Windows PC around 2000, taught myself malware removal starting in 2005 (also learned on Bleeping Computer), learned web dev starting in 2017, and I think I can fill a thimble with all that knowledge. 😉 I'm not an expert, which is why I keep investigating the answers that others give to try and improve my knowledge, so feel free to double-check the advice I give.

My phone's auto-correct is named Otto Rong.🤪😂

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Might have dislodged some gunk in the transfer. Those units have or had a recall on them.

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