Will my current cooler be enough for the 5700X3D?

[emothxughts]

I'm currently using the Ryzen 5 3600, cooled with the Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler, does its job just fine, idles around 45-50ºC, goes up to 61ºC in games.

 

I'm eyeing the 5700X3D as my next big upgrade, will this cooler be enough for it? Or will I need a more powerful one? I'd rather not get a liquid cooler though.

Edited September 5 by emothxughts
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[Dedayog]

4 minutes ago, emothxughts said:

I'm currently using the Ryzen 5 3600, cooled with the Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler, does its job just fine, idles around 45-50ºC, goes up to 61ºC in games.

 

I'm eyeing the 5700X3D as my next big upgrade, will this cooler be enough for it? Or will I need a more powerful one? I'd rather not get a liquid cooler though.

More than fine.  The CPU is locked, so it won't get as hot as the non X3D versions.

 

I use the stock 5600 cooler on a 5600X3D and it's nice and cool, for comparison.

[DoctorNick]

10 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

More than fine.  The CPU is locked, so it won't get as hot as the non X3D versions.

 

I use the stock 5600 cooler on a 5600X3D and it's nice and cool, for comparison.

The 3D v-cache gets pretty hot, so its actually hotter than the non x. You can try it out, but most likely you want a bigger cooler @emothxughts

[venomtail]

32 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

More than fine.  The CPU is locked, so it won't get as hot as the non X3D versions.

 

I use the stock 5600 cooler on a 5600X3D and it's nice and cool, for comparison.

To my knowledge the 3D CPU's run hotter. They're locked in power due to the 3D CPU's being basically factory OC'd and the tiniest more performance boost makes them unstable, thus AMD just locked them on our behalf. They run hotter cause the CPU is in, in the name, 3D stacked higher by one more layer at least where more nodes and other CPU chips are on top of one another in a smaller space, thus making everything run hotter. 

 

Note sure how accurate and referenceable this picture is in what I think the difference is:

[Yannic5]

Your cooler will be more than enough, i recently put a 5700x3d into a PC of a Friend using a BeQuiet Pure Rock Slim 2 with exellent temps. Your cooler should perform even better.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 hour ago, venomtail said:

the tiniest more performance boost makes them unstable

ofc if you dont raise voltage that is

temp will be your limiter assuming the nvme isnt acting up and the board can run high bclk

 

1 hour ago, emothxughts said:

I'm eyeing the 5700X3D as my next big upgrade, will this cooler be enough for it? Or will I need a more powerful one? I'd rather not get a liquid cooler though.

itll run hotter due to the insulating cache, as long as it isnt throttling you wont have to replace your cooler

 

if you do need a cooler upgrade theres the 36$ phantom spirit 120 which is on par with a d15

[PDifolco]

1 hour ago, venomtail said:

To my knowledge the 3D CPU's run hotter. They're locked in power due to the 3D CPU's being basically factory OC'd and the tiniest more performance boost makes them unstable, thus AMD just locked them on our behalf. They run hotter cause the CPU is in, in the name, 3D stacked higher by one more layer at least where more nodes and other CPU chips are on top of one another in a smaller space, thus making everything run hotter. 

 

Note sure how accurate and referenceable this picture is in what I think the difference is:

 

I can confirm, my experience with a 7950X3D clearly shows the 3D CCD is 10C (idle/desktop) to 20C (load) hotter than a "normal" CCD, but tends to float at high temp without issue/throttling due to the capped clock

It reaches max temp (89C in my case) on full load Cinebench-style, and no amount of cooling really makes it significantly lower, going from a TR PA120 aircooler to an Arctic Freezer 3 360 AIO just makes it longer to reach max temp, and score gain was small (less than 400 points on 34500)

In gaming it doesn't get very high (70C max on 7950X3D), so on a 5700X3D with max PPT around 100W and maybe half of that in gaming a decent tower cooler like OP's will be fine

[emothxughts]

1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

ofc if you dont raise voltage that is

About that, I'm not planning to OC my CPUs (3600, 5700X3D tentatively) anytime soon, in fact I'd much rather undervolt them.

[podkall]

it's going to work, you can get better cooler anytime later

[freeagent]

I have 5600X, 5900X, and 58X3D..

 

The X3D is as easy to cool as the 5600X..

 

 

[Dedayog]

6 hours ago, DoctorNick said:

The 3D v-cache gets pretty hot, so its actually hotter than the non x. You can try it out, but most likely you want a bigger cooler @emothxughts

Maybe I misunderstood, but my 7800x3d runs at 60c while gaming and my 7700x ran at 85c.

 

So while the X3D may be insulated , it doesn't crank up like the other chips.

 

[TPCEA]

14 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

the 36$ phantom spirit 120 which is on par with a d15

Better than, actually.

16 hours ago, emothxughts said:

I'm currently using the Ryzen 5 3600, cooled with the Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler, does its job just fine, idles around 45-50ºC, goes up to 61ºC in games.

 

I'm eyeing the 5700X3D as my next big upgrade, will this cooler be enough for it? Or will I need a more powerful one? I'd rather not get a liquid cooler though.

You're fine. The X has a TDP of 65, and the X3D 105. According to DC, it's rated up to 180W, although B&H Photo and Video says 130. I think it depends on whether they were looking at AMD or Intel, though. Undervolting it will give an added bonus. You could also look into an offset mount if the cooler doesn't seem to be centered over the chiplets.

Edited September 6 by RevGAM
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[freeagent]

The CPU can do 143w PPT, it will be close.

 

I would just try it, and if it sucks, get something else.