NCIX about to slash FX-9370/9590 prices?

[Ren]

So I was browsing through hardware as I normally do, checking for any deals or something worth mentioning. Came across this on the U.S. NCIX website:

And these have not sold well at all from pretty much anywhere except Amazon.com, which have had sales as low as around $210 for the 9370, and $249.99 for the 9590. Even then, not too many have been bought. I've kept an eye on these for a while and I'm almost positive this is the first "restock" they've ever done on them. Wish I could ask to be sure, as this is all speculation and I haven't looked in about a month and a half.

Why would NCIX order hundreds of expensive, overpriced and, quite frankly, undesirable CPUs? Do you think they're going to do some price hacks and drop the prices down really low? I'm curious as to what might happen in the next week or so. Wouldn't mind seeing 9590s that cost under $200, or 9370s for $150-$170. Maybe then people would buy them. I know I'd recommend them then.

From:

http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=85947&vpn=FD9370FHHKWOF&manufacture=AMD

http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=85946&vpn=FD9590FHHKWOF&manufacture=AMD

[Sauron]

quite frankly, undesirable CPUs

that's why I'm personally not interested. I am more than willing to pay more for a 4790k, knowing that it will consume much less power and will have a much lower heat output. having a 9590 means you need to spend quite a bit on a good cooling solution or see it fizzle and burn a hole thorugh your motherboard. also, dat tdp.

[i_build_nanosuits]

thos wont sell because they are only overclocked FX-8320 chip, the FX-8320 is 139$ and is the exact same as those...just overclock it yourself!

[PricelessNight]

My friend has a 9370 and it runs at such a hot temperature that you end up saving more money by going with a 8350 or something lower because of the liquid cooling solution you would have to buy. If you already had plans to liquid cool your pc then i don't see when you wouldn't get it. 

[Anthony10]

thos wont sell because they are only overclocked FX-8320 chip, the FX-8320 is 139$ and is the exact same as those...just overclock it yourself!

The are binned, so they will overclock better.

[i_build_nanosuits]

The are binned, so they will overclock better.

do you have any proofs they are?

 

here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlC81MjwelBgdEZNV3l6aHl1eUNwSUR4Rml0MXMzN1E&usp=sharing#gid=0

[Anthony10]

do you have any proofs they are?

 

here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlC81MjwelBgdEZNV3l6aHl1eUNwSUR4Rml0MXMzN1E&usp=sharing#gid=0

google it

I found this http://www.brightsideofnews.com/2013/10/29/review-ibuypower-amd-fx-ultimate-with-fx-9590/

[i_build_nanosuits]

google it

I found this http://www.brightsideofnews.com/2013/10/29/review-ibuypower-amd-fx-ultimate-with-fx-9590/

i don't trust google, i trust this:

And this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlC81MjwelBgdEZNV3l6aHl1eUNwSUR4Rml0MXMzN1E&usp=sharing#gid=6

You should stop googling for stuff and experience it by yourself, it has always proven to be much better

[theelitegamer]

I bet order mine fast, only one in NYC

[Anthony10]

i don't trust google, i trust this:

....ok go buy an amd 9590 and an 8350 oc them and come back to me if you dont trust the internet even though that is probably where you learned what you know about computers

[i_build_nanosuits]

....ok go buy an amd 9590 and an 8350 oc them and come back to me if you dont trust the internet even though that is probably where you learned what you know about computers

no point, if you would listen to me one second and check results from cinebench LTT users submission file you would realise that they all can reach very high overclocks, no need to pay AMD hundreds of dollars to clock those chip when one can do it himself in no time, that was my point...now, yes maybe the 9590 will reach 200 or 300 mhz more, but does that justify the price? i highly doubt it!..this is why those chips stays on the shelfs where they belong.

[Anthony10]

no point, if you would listen to me one second and check results from cinebench LTT users submission file you would realise that they all can reach very high overclocks, no need to pay AMD hundreds of dollars to clock those chip when one can do it himself in no time, that was my point...now, yes maybe the 9590 will reach 200 or 300 mhz more, but does that justify the price? i highly doubt it!..this is why those chips stays on the shelfs where they belong.

I never said that would justify the price. There are no 9590s on the LTT database you linked, but maybe im blind

[i_build_nanosuits]

I never said that would justify the price. There are no 9590s on the LTT database you linked, but maybe im blind

 

it was not the point, the point was to show that the FX-8320 and FX-8350 can reach easily 4.8ghz and as high as 5.3ghz...those that posted results at lower clock speed are probably not experienced enough in overclocking or just have bad motherboards for overclocking. Many also posted at 4ghz (no OC)... The FX-9590 at 5ghz stock won't have much more OC headroom...they would have all posted around 5.2 to 5.4ghz MAX...

[flibberdipper]

I really don't see why people would want to get one of these. Sometimes they cost the same as a 4770/4770K and the Intel counterpart still kinda beats them like red-headed stepkids.

[i_build_nanosuits]

I really don't see why people would want to get one of these. Sometimes they cost the same as a 4770/4770K and the Intel counterpart still kinda beats them like red-headed stepkids.

 

they should have never existed...it was a clever idea from AMD to make some more money out of the same CPU's...next step will be launching a new socket to support 2 of these stuck togheter with ducktape, 16 cores piledriver woohoo..

[flibberdipper]

they should have never existed...it was a clever idea from AMD to make some more money out of the same CPU's...next step will be launching a new socket to support 2 of these stuck togheter with ducktape, 16 cores piledriver woohoo..

Yeah. However you look at it, they had the first CPU that broke 1GHz (pretty sure of that) and 5GHz at stock. Those are pretty big milestones, I guess.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Yeah. However you look at it, they had the first CPU that broke 1GHz (pretty sure of that) and 5GHz at stock. Those are pretty big milestones, I guess.

yeah, intel just broke the 4ghz with their 100mhz ''refreshed'' haswell CPU's... what a refresh!

i did bought a thunderbird 1000 it was darn fast at the time...

[Ren]

My friend has a 9370 and it runs at such a hot temperature that you end up saving more money by going with a 8350 or something lower because of the liquid cooling solution you would have to buy. If you already had plans to liquid cool your pc then i don't see when you wouldn't get it.

You can overclock beyond 5.2-5.4ghz on air, a closed loop or AIO liquid cooler won't provide anything better than air except the ability to keep noise down with excess radiators. The only time liquid cooling ever gets good with hot chips/hardware is when you use a chiller of some kind, where you can cool water below ambient air temp (A.K.A. the absolute lowest temp the water could possibly reach, even if the system is off but fans are running).

With that being said, I do agree that it's almost not worth buying. The 9590 benches from what I've seen do perform significantly better than an 8320 despite what people say. It's not "just" an aggressively overclocked 8350 or something, though for logic's sake you should consider it so. What I like is that while you can overclock beyond 4.6-4.7ghz on 8350s, it's not common to hit 4.9-5ghz and this CPU sits at that normally unless your RAM is causing instability with turbo speeds or you use a cheaper cooling solution than recommended and get thermal throttling.

This was done on air (pretty sure they used a Noctua cooler) by a well-known overclocker:

I'm not 100% sure if he mail-ordered a golden chip or some crap, but that's pretty unreal to me and proves that the 9590 isn't just an overclocked 8350.

So yeah, think what you like about it but I would love to see something in the form of a Massdrop deal, where NCIX dumps hundreds of processors at a huge markdown just to get rid of them once and for all. I wouldn't be surprised if the prices were lower than I suggested, but those seem realistic enough for me to consider buying one myself if I had a 990FX chipset motherboard worth using one with. And I really think prices like that are needed to even get anyone's interest with the product anyway.