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2 minutes ago, 2DNoodles said:

My initial budget if I was just getting a gpu was roughly 800$, but now for everything I don't really have a budget in mind, just need to save to buy stuff when I can get it. I would hope to not spend over 1500-1700, would consider spending more if its really worth it

Ok

S'posing you'll reuse your drives, PSU and case, budget is sufficient for a pretty good rig !

 

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($371.83 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($36.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($100.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($779.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $1489.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-07 11:32 EDT-0400

 

Budget (including currency): 500-$1000

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Specs.PNG.d7647916791b83330741a0d1a53f4aa1.PNG

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): i7 7700K , 16GB DDR4, z270H, GTX 1070

 

I have had this computer for a around 6 years. Long story short it was turned off for a couple years and recently i have the space to make it a working gaming PC again. I really want to upgrade the GPU to what i was hoping is a 4070 of some variety ( regular, TI, or TI Super). I'm Asking if i should or need to upgrade anything else in my PC to make everything work, i guess also along with is the 4070 the best thing for me? I play a wide variety of games and just want something pretty well rounded.

 

Thank you,

 

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The 7700K 4c/8t is weaker than a modern(ish) i3, on 1080p it's barely able to feed the 1070, if you want a stronger card you need a stronger CPU and that means replacing the platform. Actually, you'd be better to upgrade the platform and keep the 1070 than vice versa.

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I'd recommend that you do an upgrade of everything.

 

A better graphics card will help in some games, but I'd suggest a minimum of a 12600K or Ryzen 7500F/7600 to pair with a modern midrange/high-end card.

 

That said, there's no harm in buying the card first and seeing how it goes.

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3 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

The 7700K 4c/8t is weaker than a modern(ish) i3, on 1080p it's barely able to feed the 1070, if you want a stronger card you need a stronger CPU and that means replacing the platform. Actually, you'd be better to upgrade the platform and keep the 1070 than vice versa.

Would I be able to upgrade my cpu and gpu and keep the mother board? Or is that outdated at this point too? I'm trying to see what I can do before having to basically start fresh

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1 minute ago, 2DNoodles said:

Would I be able to upgrade my cpu and gpu and keep the mother board? Or is that outdated at this point too? I'm trying to see what I can do before having to basically start fresh

Anything that would be a significant upgrade over a 7700K requires a new motherboard. The 7700K is the strongest CPU for that socket.

 

You could maybe keep your RAM if you decide to upgrade to a platform that is considered old at this time (AMD AM4). But if your ram is 2400MHz, it's better to leave that behind too.

 

The case should be fine, and maybe the PSU if you have a good one.

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  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
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4 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Anything that would be a significant upgrade over a 7700K requires a new motherboard. The 7700K is the strongest CPU for that socket.

 

You could maybe keep your RAM if you decide to upgrade to a platform that is considered old at this time (AMD AM4). But if your ram is 2400MHz, it's better to leave that behind too.

 

The case should be fine, and maybe the PSU if you have a good one.

I believe it is a corsair 850 , but again its around the same age as everything else

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9 minutes ago, 2DNoodles said:

I believe it is a corsair 850 , but again its around the same age as everything else

It might still be under warranty, shouldn't be bad. A decent new PSU costs > $100.

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  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
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  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
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  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
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2 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

It might still be under warranty, shouldn't be bad. A decent new PSU costs > $100.

Well you have been a great help haha, last question looking for tips then. Since im going to build pretty fresh, and i want to build around a 4070 TI Super 16GB, what am i looking for in terms of cpu and mobo and ram, basically need to rebuild haha

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6 minutes ago, 2DNoodles said:

Well you have been a great help haha, last question looking for tips then. Since im going to build pretty fresh, and i want to build around a 4070 TI Super 16GB, what am i looking for in terms of cpu and mobo and ram, basically need to rebuild haha

Yes for sure

What's your overall budget ?

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7 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Yes for sure

What's your overall budget ?

My initial budget if I was just getting a gpu was roughly 800$, but now for everything I don't really have a budget in mind, just need to save to buy stuff when I can get it. I would hope to not spend over 1500-1700, would consider spending more if its really worth it

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2 minutes ago, 2DNoodles said:

My initial budget if I was just getting a gpu was roughly 800$, but now for everything I don't really have a budget in mind, just need to save to buy stuff when I can get it. I would hope to not spend over 1500-1700, would consider spending more if its really worth it

Ok

S'posing you'll reuse your drives, PSU and case, budget is sufficient for a pretty good rig !

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($371.83 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($36.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($100.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($779.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $1489.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-07 11:32 EDT-0400

 

AMD R9  7950X3D CPU/ Asus ROG STRIX X670E-E board/ 2x32GB G-Skill Trident Z Neo 6000CL30 RAM ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case /  Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 ARGB cooler/  2TB WD SN850 NVme + 2TB Crucial T500  NVme  + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD / Corsair RM850x PSU/ Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / ASUS ROG AZOTH keyboard/ Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones

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