Laptop overheating during games - but not during a CPU and GPU steesstest

[RanchTheHay005]

So I have this Omen-16 with

 

R7-6800H

RTX3070ti

16gigs of ram

1TB SSD

 

It's brand new - barely 2-3 months old

 

Out of the box - the CPU would hit 95c - while the GPU would hit 65-74c while gaming - which I thought was pretty hot for a CPU

 

So I edited the power settings by limiting the maximum clock speed to 3200mhz - and during games the CPU did not exceed 80c - and the GPU averaged at 74c (power draw dropped from 65w to 30w on 100% load - with a 15-20% performance drop- 13k to 10k cbpoints - but not enough for a CPU bottleneck though)

 

Even during Prime95 and Furmark running side by side - the CPU would not exceed the 85c (30w draw) mark with the GPU not exceeding 80c (130-135w draw)

 

Very recently for the past week - any game I throw at the laptop - the CPU would hit 95c even with 20% utilisation - while the GPU stays around 74c max (100-130w draw)

 

Also the clockspeed seems to be locked at 3.2ghz even during idle- it used to change very frequently before - tonlower clockspeeds when not in use

 

But while running the stress tests simultaneously - the CPU does not exceed 85c

 

I am extremely confused on what could be the reason - the fans are set at max speed during games or stress tests

[PDifolco]

43 minutes ago, RanchTheHay005 said:

So I have this Omen-16 with

 

R7-6800H

RTX3070ti

16gigs of ram

1TB SSD

 

It's brand new - barely 2-3 months old

 

Out of the box - the CPU would hit 95c - while the GPU would hit 65-74c while gaming - which I thought was pretty hot for a CPU

 

So I edited the power settings by limiting the maximum clock speed to 3200mhz - and during games the CPU did not exceed 80c - and the GPU averaged at 74c (power draw dropped from 65w to 30w on 100% load - with a 15-20% performance drop- 13k to 10k cbpoints - but not enough for a CPU bottleneck though)

 

Even during Prime95 and Furmark running side by side - the CPU would not exceed the 85c (30w draw) mark with the GPU not exceeding 80c (130-135w draw)

 

Very recently for the past week - any game I throw at the laptop - the CPU would hit 95c even with 20% utilisation - while the GPU stays around 74c max (100-130w draw)

 

Also the clockspeed seems to be locked at 3.2ghz even during idle- it used to change very frequently before - tonlower clockspeeds when not in use

 

But while running the stress tests simultaneously - the CPU does not exceed 85c

 

I am extremely confused on what could be the reason - the fans are set at max speed during games or stress tests

CPU reaches its rated TJmax and maybe throttle a bit, that's normal behavior

In laptops heat tend to accumulate over time, and game last often loger than stress tests  

Plus stress tests and games don't hit the CPU the same way, so there will be temp differences, in particular multithread stress tests hit all cores equally, where games mostly hit a couple cores harder, and as AMD CPU temp is a hotspot it may end up with higher temp but lower TDP

[RanchTheHay005]

2 hours ago, PDifolco said:

CPU reaches its rated TJmax and maybe throttle a bit, that's normal behavior

In laptops heat tend to accumulate over time, and game last often loger than stress tests  

Plus stress tests and games don't hit the CPU the same way, so there will be temp differences, in particular multithread stress tests hit all cores equally, where games mostly hit a couple cores harder, and as AMD CPU temp is a hotspot it may end up with higher temp but lower TDP

I understand the CPU reaching TJ max and throttling - the CPU hits TJ max only at 100c

 

Even with prolonged gaming - around 2-3 weeks back the CPU never exceeded 85c after limiting the clock speed to 3.2ghz

 

But now it hits 95c within minutes of games - but never go over 85c even with an hour of stress test running 

 

Even if certain cores are hit harder at times - won't the temps drop instantly

 

Is it possible that the thermal paste on the CPU side alone has dried out - or is it due to some kind of power issue - coz I remember when setting the laptop at high performance mode in windows power settings - the laptop idled at 90c

[Sawa Takahashi]

4 hours ago, RanchTheHay005 said:

I am extremely confused on what could be the reason - the fans are set at max speed during games or stress tests

The easy way to diagnose is to search for something that has changed since then.

First thing I would check is if something is blocking the airways of your laptop. Dust can often build up, especially with fan at max speed, and if you have pets it is way, way worse. Compressed air can help, disassembly may be required for more severe cases.

You should also check for software changes. It can be a game that overrides settings, a bad windows update, etc. Hard to tell, you'll have to check carefully.

Lastly, it is possible that your thermal paste/thermal pads are defective. But I would be really surprised if that was the case. That computer is almost new. Anyway, if this is the case, you better bring back for warranty check because this isn't normal.

Hope something will help in my ramblings

[RanchTheHay005]

On 7/18/2024 at 9:53 PM, Sawa Takahashi said:

The easy way to diagnose is to search for something that has changed since then.

First thing I would check is if something is blocking the airways of your laptop. Dust can often build up, especially with fan at max speed, and if you have pets it is way, way worse. Compressed air can help, disassembly may be required for more severe cases.

You should also check for software changes. It can be a game that overrides settings, a bad windows update, etc. Hard to tell, you'll have to check carefully.

Lastly, it is possible that your thermal paste/thermal pads are defective. But I would be really surprised if that was the case. That computer is almost new. Anyway, if this is the case, you better bring back for warranty check because this isn't normal.

Hope something will help in my ramblings

I physically chced the evnts - there is no dust buildup

its possibly windows having to do something with it - not even a defective thermla paste - coz if the thermal paste is defective - then it should throttle witht the stress tests - the issue is exclusive only with games

 

i'll mossibly try messing settings with hardware acceleration and such

 

THank you tho :)

[RanchTheHay005]

On 7/18/2024 at 6:09 PM, PDifolco said:

CPU reaches its rated TJmax and maybe throttle a bit, that's normal behavior

In laptops heat tend to accumulate over time, and game last often loger than stress tests  

Plus stress tests and games don't hit the CPU the same way, so there will be temp differences, in particular multithread stress tests hit all cores equally, where games mostly hit a couple cores harder, and as AMD CPU temp is a hotspot it may end up with higher temp but lower TDP

IF that's the  case - it should be fine then

I'm so used to with Intel CPUs - this does not feel normal haha

 

thank you though:)