help [HELP][ADVICE]Advice regarding my current build

[GrizzlyBear0]

Budget (including currency): 10,000$

Country: Greece but it doesn't matter i'm going to buy these parts online

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Pretty much it will be used for everything but ill be playing games mostly on it.

Other details :

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gwZL34 [EDITED a few times]
 

i switched the cpu/motherboard/and power supply as some people suggested.
It took me a while to build this thanks to the help of some people that introduced me to the website and i used https://www.userbenchmark.com/System/Gigabyte-GA-Z790-AORUS-MASTER/287343 to see which is most compatible with the motherboard and other parts which helped me choose the parts and narrow it down and i'm here to fine tune it and get any advice regarding the parts if i should use something else or replace it with something else etc etc
 

Any help would be appreciated,thanks in advance

And regarding my other thread don't worry i requested it be deleted as i prefer to start over with an organized thread as a lot of people requested i post some more information so hopefully this helps you guys help me.

[Imakuni]

For starters, forget about Intel, it's just not worth it right now. If you're building a gaming rig and you have the money for it, you want to build around a 7800x3D.

 

Second, lower your RAM, get a 2x16 decently rated kit. Remember, as long as you have enough memory, the least you have, the better.

 

Everything else... I mean, sure? Seems like you just threw the most expensive thing you could find in there, but there's technically nothing "wrong" with it like there is with the 2 items above. It's extreme overkill and a waste of money, but it's not as if we could tell you in good faith to change something to make the build better.

[TetraSky]

That power supply is so ridiculously overkill... You don't need 1600W for a single 4090 system. 1200W would be more than enough if you plan to overclock. Anything more is wasted.  (Did you look at the PSU tier list and simply took the highest capacity available in the A tier or something?)

 

Unless you are serious about video editing and the likes, you SERIOUSLY don't need 96GB of RAM for primarily gaming. A single kit of that for 48GB would be plenty until your next upgrade years down the line, or 2x16GB (32GB) to save a bit more (32GB)

 

I get it, you probably want the "best" of the "best" money can buy... there's just a lot of wasted money for very little in return.

As it is, it's ok, it will likely all work together. But man is there ever a strong diminishing return for the amount spent on that.

[GrizzlyBear0]

8 minutes ago, Imakuni said:

For starters, forget about Intel, it's just not worth it right now. If you're building a gaming rig and you have the money for it, you want to build around a 7800x3D.

 

Second, lower your RAM, get a 2x16 decently rated kit. Remember, as long as you have enough memory, the least you have, the better.

 

Everything else... I mean, sure? Seems like you just threw the most expensive thing you could find in there, but there's technically nothing "wrong" with it like there is with the 2 items above. It's extreme overkill and a waste of money, but it's not as if we could tell you in good faith to change something to make the build better.

Yh i was thinking about intel vs amd for a bit

My first built pc was intel and i regretted it at the time i guess amd is still better

[Dedayog]

10 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

Yh i was thinking about intel vs amd for a bit

My first built pc was intel and i regretted it at the time i guess amd is still better

What do you have now that fills you with regret?

 

There are so many overpsending and overkill parts, it's hard to give advice.  If you want to blow that kind of money, go for it.  But if you want advice on what makes sense or is good value or makes a great build... you're not asking for that.

 

You're asking what will cost the most for whatever reason you need to have a $10k budget.

 

 

[GrizzlyBear0]

24 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

That power supply is so ridiculously overkill... You don't need 1600W for a single 4090 system. 1200W would be more than enough if you plan to overclock. Anything more is wasted.  (Did you look at the PSU tier list and simply took the highest capacity available in the A tier or something?)

 

Unless you are serious about video editing and the likes, you SERIOUSLY don't need 96GB of RAM for primarily gaming. A single kit of that for 48GB would be plenty until your next upgrade years down the line, or 2x16GB (32GB) to save a bit more (32GB)

 

I get it, you probably want the "best" of the "best" money can buy... there's just a lot of wasted money for very little in return.

As it is, it's ok, it will likely all work together. But man is there ever a strong diminishing return for the amount spent on that.

 

29 minutes ago, Imakuni said:

For starters, forget about Intel, it's just not worth it right now. If you're building a gaming rig and you have the money for it, you want to build around a 7800x3D.

 

Second, lower your RAM, get a 2x16 decently rated kit. Remember, as long as you have enough memory, the least you have, the better.

 

Everything else... I mean, sure? Seems like you just threw the most expensive thing you could find in there, but there's technically nothing "wrong" with it like there is with the 2 items above. It's extreme overkill and a waste of money, but it's not as if we could tell you in good faith to change something to make the build better.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6VWG9c

Here you go i've taken both your advice and switched from intel to amd so i had to change the motherboard and cpu

And i've also changed the power supply as well but isn't it ok with a higher power supply anyway? only thing that's different is money wise on the part? but what about the electricity does it use more electricity? even though the parts only need 900 etc?
Like lets say i'm using a psu of 1600
And a psu of 1600
Now electricity will the 1600 use more electricity even though its not needed? like will my electricity bill come higher $ with the 1600 than the 1200?

[GrizzlyBear0]

2 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

What do you have now that fills you with regret?

 

There are so many overpsending and overkill parts, it's hard to give advice.  If you want to blow that kind of money, go for it.  But if you want advice on what makes sense or is good value or makes a great build... you're not asking for that.

 

You're asking what will cost the most for whatever reason you need to have a $10k budget.

 

 

I'm just trying to go for the most optimal build for gaming and other stuff that has good compatibility with each other parts wise and i'd have to say 4090 is the main component.

[Imakuni]

6 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6VWG9c

Here you go i've taken both your advice and switched from intel to amd so i had to change the motherboard and cpu

Now lower the RAM.

 

7 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

And i've also changed the power supply as well but isn't it ok with a higher power supply anyway? only thing that's different is money wise on the part?

It's fine to go with an oversized PSU if you want to waste money. Other than your wallet, there's no harm in it.

 

2 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

I'm just trying to go for the most optimal build for gaming and other stuff that has good compatibility with each other parts wise and i'd have to say 4090 is the main component.

Define "optimal". Does that mean "the most expensive thing I can find" or "smartly using your money without sacrificing performance"?

[TetraSky]

11 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

I'm just trying to go for the most optimal build for gaming and other stuff that has good compatibility with each other parts wise and i'd have to say 4090 is the main component.

Lose the $600 ROG board then. Expensive motherboards contribute little to zero difference in gaming performances. There's a few X670E boards for less than $300. The ROG board only has two 16x slots for PCI-e expansions.

Other boards for less than $300 have at least three. Like the MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI or the MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI. If you only need two 16X slots, the Asus TUF gaming board x670e-plus wifi would be a better choice. ROG is just branding to make you spend more money. It offers little to nothing of value compared to alternatives. Especially on a motherboard.

 

16 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

And i've also changed the power supply as well but isn't it ok with a higher power supply anyway? only thing that's different is money wise on the part? but what about the electricity does it use more electricity? even though the parts only need 900 etc?

It only uses what you consume. It's primarily all about saving money. There is literally zero benefit to having a 1600W PSU on a single GPU system. You're just throwing money out of the window for nothing. Personally I would choose a Seasonic PSU that costs way less than that.

[Why_Me]

https://www.skroutz.gr/   <---  run these components through this site for best prices.

 

Add this card to this build.

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/43066907/Asus-GeForce-RTX-4090-24GB-GDDR6X-TUF-Gaming-OG-OC-Karta-Grafikon-90YV0IY3-M0NA00.html 

Asus TUF Gaming OG GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£314.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£55.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: *Asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£255.77 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: *G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£112.79 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£160.65 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£88.94 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£168.26 @ NeoComputers) 
Total: £1156.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-13 15:52 BST+0100

[GrizzlyBear0]

6 minutes ago, Imakuni said:

Now lower the RAM.

 

It's fine to go with an oversized PSU if you want to waste money. Other than your wallet, there's no harm in it.

 

Define "optimal". Does that mean "the most expensive thing I can find" or "smartly using your money without sacrificing performance"?

 

2 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

https://www.skroutz.gr/   <---  run these components through this site for best prices.

 

Add this card to this build.

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/43066907/Asus-GeForce-RTX-4090-24GB-GDDR6X-TUF-Gaming-OG-OC-Karta-Grafikon-90YV0IY3-M0NA00.html 

Asus TUF Gaming OG GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£314.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£55.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: *Asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£255.77 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: *G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£112.79 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£160.65 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£88.94 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£168.26 @ NeoComputers) 
Total: £1156.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-13 15:52 BST+0100

Sirs YES SIRS i'm on it!

Thanks

[GrizzlyBear0]

3 hours ago, TetraSky said:

Lose the $600 ROG board then. Expensive motherboards contribute little to zero difference in gaming performances. There's a few X670E boards for less than $300. The ROG board only has two 16x slots for PCI-e expansions.

Other boards for less than $300 have at least three. Like the MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI or the MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI. If you only need two 16X slots, the Asus TUF gaming board x670e-plus wifi would be a better choice. ROG is just branding to make you spend more money. It offers little to nothing of value compared to alternatives. Especially on a motherboard.

 

It only uses what you consume. It's primarily all about saving money. There is literally zero benefit to having a 1600W PSU on a single GPU system. You're just throwing money out of the window for nothing. Personally I would choose a Seasonic PSU that costs way less than that.

Whats the best out of all the motherboards u suggested? i googled a bit and MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI seems to have the highest ddr5 speed i'm unsure on what else i should look at as well in ur opinion out of all the motherboards u suggested what do u think is best?

to me it seems like the MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk WiFi is best among them?

[TetraSky]

13 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

Whats the best out of all the motherboards u suggested? i googled a bit and MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI seems to have the highest ddr5 speed i'm unsure on what else i should look at as well in ur opinion out of all the motherboards u suggested what do u think is best?

to me it seems like the MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk WiFi is best among them?

They are all pretty good. But yes, the Tomahawk is just slightly better than the Gaming Plus board.

[GrizzlyBear0]

2 hours ago, TetraSky said:

They are all pretty good. But yes, the Tomahawk is just slightly better than the Gaming Plus board.

 

5 hours ago, Why_Me said:

https://www.skroutz.gr/   <---  run these components through this site for best prices.

 

Add this card to this build.

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/43066907/Asus-GeForce-RTX-4090-24GB-GDDR6X-TUF-Gaming-OG-OC-Karta-Grafikon-90YV0IY3-M0NA00.html 

Asus TUF Gaming OG GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£314.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£55.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: *Asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£255.77 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: *G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£112.79 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£160.65 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£88.94 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£168.26 @ NeoComputers) 
Total: £1156.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-13 15:52 BST+0100

 

5 hours ago, Imakuni said:

Now lower the RAM.

 

It's fine to go with an oversized PSU if you want to waste money. Other than your wallet, there's no harm in it.

 

Define "optimal". Does that mean "the most expensive thing I can find" or "smartly using your money without sacrificing performance"?

 

6 hours ago, Dedayog said:

What do you have now that fills you with regret?

 

There are so many overpsending and overkill parts, it's hard to give advice.  If you want to blow that kind of money, go for it.  But if you want advice on what makes sense or is good value or makes a great build... you're not asking for that.

 

You're asking what will cost the most for whatever reason you need to have a $10k budget.

 

 

I've decided to go with this build any advice/tips in general? and yes i know some parts are expensive regarding the motherboard ill probably be going with the one in this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gwZL34

[TetraSky]

5 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

 

 

 

I've decided to go with this build any advice/tips in general? and yes i know some parts are expensive regarding the motherboard ill probably be going with the one in this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gwZL34

Looks good to me. Saved nearly $1k just from unnecessary parts.

 

You could, of course, cut in the fat some more. Like a cheaper case, cheaper PSU, cheaper monitor, cheaper 4090 (as low as $1600, you can overclock it yourself to reach the same clock speeds as the ROG)... grey market windows key instead of retail copy (it's like $5 or $10) ... But overall, it's fine as is if these are what you desire.

[GrizzlyBear0]

3 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

Looks good to me. Saved nearly $1k just from unnecessary parts.

 

You could, of course, cut in the fat some more. Like a cheaper case, cheaper PSU, cheaper monitor, grey market windows key instead of retail copy (it's like $5 or $10) ... But overall, it's fine as is if these are what you desire.

I know i know but regarding the parts do you know there's any other parts that should be changed because of compatibility issues or performance or there's  a different part that can give better performance?
And regarding the monitor ill probably make a topic about it as it's the last thing etc

[Why_Me]

1 hour ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

I know i know but regarding the parts do you know there's any other parts that should be changed because of compatibility issues or performance or there's  a different part that can give better performance?
And regarding the monitor ill probably make a topic about it as it's the last thing etc

You want a ATX 3.0 power supply for these RTX 40XX cards due to the PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR cable. That power supply in your build isn't a ATX 3.0 psu. You don't need SSD's with heatsinks seeing how that board includes three M.2 heatsinks for your SSD's. Also that case you have chosen has poor airflow due to the solid front panel. Look for AMD EXPO optimized RAM.

 

AIO

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/51052853/Deepcool-Mystique-360-Ydropsyxi-Epexergasti-Triplou-Anemistira-120mm.html 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuliquidcoolers/MYSTIQUE-360-5th-Gen-Liquid-Cooler-with-LCD-1700-AM5/2024/18059.shtml

 

Case

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/37217285/Lian-Li-Lancool-III-Gaming-Midi-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-me-Plaino-Parathyro-Mayro.html 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-iii/

 

Power Supply

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/42658743/Be-Quiet-Pure-Power-12-M-1200W-Mayro-Trofodotiko-Ypologisti-Full-Modular-80-Plus-Gold.html  

https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/4406

 

RAM

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/41964667/G-Skill-Flare-X5-32GB-DDR5-RAM-me-2-Modules-2x16GB-kai-Tachytita-6000-gia-Desktop-F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5.html

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/396/1673491242/F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5

 

or ...

 

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/38641748/G-Skill-Trident-Z5-Neo-32GB-DDR5-RAM-me-2-Modules-2x16GB-kai-Tachytita-6000-gia-Desktop-F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N.html  

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/393/1661410171/F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N

[GrizzlyBear0]

8 hours ago, Why_Me said:

You want a ATX 3.0 power supply for these RTX 40XX cards due to the PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR cable. That power supply in your build isn't a ATX 3.0 psu. You don't need SSD's with heatsinks seeing how that board includes three M.2 heatsinks for your SSD's. Also that case you have chosen has poor airflow due to the solid front panel. Look for AMD EXPO optimized RAM.

 

AIO

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/51052853/Deepcool-Mystique-360-Ydropsyxi-Epexergasti-Triplou-Anemistira-120mm.html 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuliquidcoolers/MYSTIQUE-360-5th-Gen-Liquid-Cooler-with-LCD-1700-AM5/2024/18059.shtml

 

Case

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/37217285/Lian-Li-Lancool-III-Gaming-Midi-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-me-Plaino-Parathyro-Mayro.html 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-iii/

 

Power Supply

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/42658743/Be-Quiet-Pure-Power-12-M-1200W-Mayro-Trofodotiko-Ypologisti-Full-Modular-80-Plus-Gold.html  

https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/4406

 

RAM

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/41964667/G-Skill-Flare-X5-32GB-DDR5-RAM-me-2-Modules-2x16GB-kai-Tachytita-6000-gia-Desktop-F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5.html

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/396/1673491242/F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5

 

or ...

 

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/38641748/G-Skill-Trident-Z5-Neo-32GB-DDR5-RAM-me-2-Modules-2x16GB-kai-Tachytita-6000-gia-Desktop-F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N.html  

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/393/1661410171/F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N

Do you have a full tower case suggestion? i prefer to have as much space as possible so i'm going for full tower and not medium tower

[GrizzlyBear0]

8 hours ago, Why_Me said:

You want a ATX 3.0 power supply for these RTX 40XX cards due to the PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR cable. That power supply in your build isn't a ATX 3.0 psu. You don't need SSD's with heatsinks seeing how that board includes three M.2 heatsinks for your SSD's. Also that case you have chosen has poor airflow due to the solid front panel. Look for AMD EXPO optimized RAM.

 

AIO

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/51052853/Deepcool-Mystique-360-Ydropsyxi-Epexergasti-Triplou-Anemistira-120mm.html 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuliquidcoolers/MYSTIQUE-360-5th-Gen-Liquid-Cooler-with-LCD-1700-AM5/2024/18059.shtml

 

Case

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/37217285/Lian-Li-Lancool-III-Gaming-Midi-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-me-Plaino-Parathyro-Mayro.html 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-iii/

 

Power Supply

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/42658743/Be-Quiet-Pure-Power-12-M-1200W-Mayro-Trofodotiko-Ypologisti-Full-Modular-80-Plus-Gold.html  

https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/4406

 

RAM

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/41964667/G-Skill-Flare-X5-32GB-DDR5-RAM-me-2-Modules-2x16GB-kai-Tachytita-6000-gia-Desktop-F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5.html

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/396/1673491242/F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5

 

or ...

 

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/38641748/G-Skill-Trident-Z5-Neo-32GB-DDR5-RAM-me-2-Modules-2x16GB-kai-Tachytita-6000-gia-Desktop-F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N.html  

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/393/1661410171/F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N

Also these ram are amd expo optimized? i've found them using the original motherboard support list but ill do some  more research later

[Why_Me]

17 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

Also these ram are amd expo optimized? i've found them using the original motherboard support list but ill do some  more research later

I posted links to the RAM specs (two links for each set of RAM.

[Why_Me]

23 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

Do you have a full tower case suggestion? i prefer to have as much space as possible so i'm going for full tower and not medium tower

Today's mid tower is yesterday's full tower.

 

 

[GrizzlyBear0]

29 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Today's mid tower is yesterday's full tower.

 

 

What's your opinion on

NZXT H9 Elite ATX Mid Tower Case

[Why_Me]

5 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

What's your opinion on

NZXT H9 Elite ATX Mid Tower Case

I don't care much for those cases with the fans blowing air from the side of the case. The best cooling cases have front intake fans that blow air over the components.

[GrizzlyBear0]

14 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

I don't care much for those cases with the fans blowing air from the side of the case. The best cooling cases have front intake fans that blow air over the components.

So pretty much any case with front fans noted,thanks and in ur opinion what's the top 3 aio coolers?

[GrizzlyBear0]

16 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

I don't care much for those cases with the fans blowing air from the side of the case. The best cooling cases have front intake fans that blow air over the components.

So H7 Flow RGB (2023) is a better option?