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Domestic Use Speed Cameras???

Hi guys,

 

Would anyone have a recommendation for a domestic use speed gun / camera system?

 

I live in a pretty rural part of South Scotland and and trying to lobby my local authority to install a more aggressive speed reduction system through my village.

 

They are keen on sticking to their rule book which generally starts with the cheapest option which is likely to be a 20mph limit. Unfortunately, given the fact that drivers can't even stick to the exiting 30mph limit I don't see them adhering to the 20 limit.

 

As an aid to my plan, I was hoping to perform my own speed analysis and submit to the council for their perusal but obviously, I'll need some hardware.

 

I thought I'd struck gold with a UK phone app called Speedcam Anywhere which looked amazing but its pretty broken and I can't get it to work on my Pixel 6.

 

If anyone has any suggestion that would be great.

 

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26 minutes ago, ChrisLoudon said:

I thought I'd struck gold with a UK phone app called Speedcam Anywhere

Is this an app that measures the speed of something?

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3 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

Is this an app that measures the speed of something?

Yeh, you should check their website.

 

It works on a small fee credit system where 1000 credits costs about £15.

 

1 credit gets you a basic report where speeds are accurate to within 10% however 10 credits gets a far more detailed and accurate report. In this mode, the capture takes a pic of the number plate which is then cross referenced with the DVLA database. From there the app knows the model of the vehicle and therefore the wheelbase which it then used to get the speed accurate to within 1 or 2%.

 

As far as I can see, it doesn't have an automatic or unattended mode so you kinda need to sit out side and take shots of each car driving past manually but still, its a pretty slick idea.

 

Just a shame that the damn thing is broken. At least for me.

 

I've emailed the devs to see if there are any known issues and solutions.

 

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Not a chance that is accurate, and it would definitely not be accepted as evidence in court. If you want to "catch the bad guys" you will need a genuine speed gun, and probably licensed and calibrated in some professional way

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4 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

Not a chance that is accurate, and it would definitely not be accepted as evidence in court. If you want to "catch the bad guys" you will need a genuine speed gun, and probably licensed and calibrated in some professional way

Its not directly admissible in court but has been used by busy bodies like myself to aid in dangerous driving cases and insurance claims much like dash-cams have done in recent years.

 

I don't need 100% accuracy. All I need is something that's not gonna cost the earth but can generate something that can be sent to a board for their consideration.

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Maybe there's some place you can rent a real one from.

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6 minutes ago, ChrisLoudon said:

I don't need 100% accuracy.

If its not fully accurate, its useless

 

The evidence will not be admissible 

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5 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Maybe there's some place you can rent a real one from.

Tbf even if they did get a real one, how would the police know it was THAT car that was speeding, in THAT location with THAT speed limit?

 

They would probably push it away as there is no police involvement from the start. Could record someone doing 60, but the police would not know whether the recorder caught that in a 60 or a 30.

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Yeah, any phone app is going to be pretty useless and probably isn't going to be taken any more seriously than you estimating the speed of vehicles yourself with your eyes. If you wanted it to actually be taken seriously you would need to use a proper speed measuring device that has been calibrated and certified, and you yourself will need to be certified to use it. Then you just end up dealing with the observer effect where you standing on the side of the road pointing a speed measuring device at traffic is going to change the result as people slow down. You'd really just be wasting your time standing out there trying to use an app on your phone to film cars driving past. If the council wanted to know how fast the traffic in the area is they would just install those traffic monitoring strips across the road and log all the traffic and the speed over a period of a a few days or weeks. Just let the council assess the road, traffic, and other considerations (including resident's concerns) to choose a speed limit and any speed enforcement required.

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21 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

Tbf even if they did get a real one, how would the police know it was THAT car that was speeding, in THAT location with THAT speed limit?

Read the post, they're not after catching someone specific or getting hard evidence, just making stats like "60% of drivers are speeding in this area" to show that something needs to be done.

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22 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Read the post, they're not after catching someone specific or getting hard evidence, just making stats like "60% of drivers are speeding in this area" to show that something needs to be done.

Even if they do find that, would the fantastic British police even do anything? They take their sweet time over here

 

Just seems a waste of time to me

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If you wanted something cheap I would look at a handheld sports radar unit used for baseball.  I would think something that could track the speed of a baseball should be able to pick up a car as well and it looks like there are several model available that start for under $100.

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5 hours ago, Kilrah said:

Read the post, they're not after catching someone specific or getting hard evidence, just making stats like "60% of drivers are speeding in this area" to show that something needs to be done.

Thanks for pointing that out buddy.

 

Was biting my lip given some of the useless comments by others.

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3 minutes ago, ChrisLoudon said:

Thanks for pointing that out buddy.

 

Was biting my lip given some of the useless comments by others.

No comments are useless, you asked for opinions and you got them

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On 6/25/2024 at 3:36 PM, Blasty Blosty said:

No comments are useless, you asked for opinions and you got them

I actually asked for a recommendation not an opinion.

 

If you had bothered to read the post, it was clear I wasn't wanting to use this to catch anyone or use it in a way that touches on anything legislative.

 

If you do a quick Google for 'Speed Camera Anywhere' pretty much all of the top hits give you a detailed report on how it works, its strengths, flaws and controversial nature.

 

I can't get it to work for whatever reason so I'm looking for an alternative solution.

 

On 6/25/2024 at 10:54 AM, vf1000ride said:

If you wanted something cheap I would look at a handheld sports radar unit used for baseball.  I would think something that could track the speed of a baseball should be able to pick up a car as well and it looks like there are several model available that start for under $100.

I suspect, this is where I'm going to have to start.

 

As the data gathered will be forwarded to my local council I was hoping for something a little less manual. The dev behind Speedcam Anywhere does have source code freely available and instructions on how to jank a web cam and a Rasp-Pi together to create something similar to the app so maybe I'll give that a bash.

 

The weather is meant to be crap this weekend so at least I've got something to tinker with

 

 

 

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